The Governator Seeks to Terminate Gay Weddings

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
I see the religous zealots are taking over P&N....

*sigh*

I am not taking over, Im just visiting for the winter 😀

 

[dpm]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: Romans828
I am ordained as an apostle to the Lord, its under the authority of Christ I may speak and

Answer this simply question and I will know al about your "Christian walk" , is gay marriage an abomination unto God or not? is it a sin? yes or no thats all I want to know.

We all know your answer to that question, Romans, but since you like to ask questions so much, let me press you again to answer mine;

Is eating pork and bacon just as much of an abomination unto God as gay marriage, or not? Is it a sin?

Is eating an oyster also just as much of an abomination unto God? Is it a sin?

As an apostle to the Lord, should you not be preaching against these sins as well?

Did Paul not revoke all the dietary restrictions of the Jews? He did say we may eat any meat save that which has been strangled. As long as you slice the neck and bleed the pig it is ok to eat =)
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Thanks for the quote, bugs - I couldn't remember where that was from 😱 I was thinking of his letter to the epehesians, where he says that Jesus abolished the commandments and ordinances.

Yet all this seems to go against what Jesus taught in Matthew, where he said that he had not come to destroy the law - that not one word would be changed till heaven and earth had passed.

Paul's words in Acts confuse me somewhat - in context he seems to be saying that these are sufficient laws for the gentiles who wish to worship Christ to live by, leaving out a whole host of important others (not least that they should abstain from homosexuality).

Thats not what Christ said. He said he came not to destroy the law but fulfill the law. I don't feel like debating what he meant, but it means the penalty of the law. He came to take away the penalty of the law and offer an eternal sacrifice through his death. It goes way deep in which it could take hours, even days to just reach the meat of what he was talking about.

I see you know this better than me, bugs, so I shall take your word for it.
But where does this leave homosexuality?

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: Romans828
I am ordained as an apostle to the Lord, its under the authority of Christ I may speak and

Answer this simply question and I will know al about your "Christian walk" , is gay marriage an abomination unto God or not? is it a sin? yes or no thats all I want to know.

We all know your answer to that question, Romans, but since you like to ask questions so much, let me press you again to answer mine;

Is eating pork and bacon just as much of an abomination unto God as gay marriage, or not? Is it a sin?

Is eating an oyster also just as much of an abomination unto God? Is it a sin?

As an apostle to the Lord, should you not be preaching against these sins as well?

Did Paul not revoke all the dietary restrictions of the Jews? He did say we may eat any meat save that which has been strangled. As long as you slice the neck and bleed the pig it is ok to eat =)
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Thanks for the quote, bugs - I couldn't remember where that was from 😱 I was thinking of his letter to the epehesians, where he says that Jesus abolished the commandments and ordinances.

Yet all this seems to go against what Jesus taught in Matthew, where he said that he had not come to destroy the law - that not one word would be changed till heaven and earth had passed.

Paul's words in Acts confuse me somewhat - in context he seems to be saying that these are sufficient laws for the gentiles who wish to worship Christ to live by, leaving out a whole host of important others (not least that they should abstain from homosexuality).

Thats not what Christ said. He said he came not to destroy the law but fulfill the law. I don't feel like debating what he meant, but it means the penalty of the law. He came to take away the penalty of the law and offer an eternal sacrifice through his death. It goes way deep in which it could take hours, even days to just reach the meat of what he was talking about.

I see you know this better than me, bugs, so I shall take your word for it.
But where does this leave homosexuality?

I know you asked bugs......... but please cause I know, I know (raises hand high in air) LOL

Its still a sin......... BTW I am a sinner too, just different sins 😱

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Romans828

When you come into this forum and openly condemn my Christian walk and witness among the unbelievers and then go onto comparing yourself to me and how you are "above" me is inappropriate. If you truely believe any this then call me to counsel as a brother in Christ Jesus, you should in 47 years know the procedure

You pity me? Please Don't, pity the lost and dying world instead.

You condemn others yet you expect some measure of fair treatment? How totally ignorant yet arrogant , all at once. I am simply comparing my prctice of my lifelong relationship with Christ.

They are not "my words of hate"

Yes or no GOD HATES SIN can you answer that?

GOD doesn't want us commiting any sins, yet he doesn't hate us for sinning, for that is what we do. HE loves all his children regardless, It is only the ones who have accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior who shall enter his kingdom.

BTW you cant be Christian "all your life" its not a birthright. Most of your life maybe.

I was born into a Christian Household and family. I accepted Jesus Christ at a very early age. DO NOT DEIGN to TELL ME I have not been Christian all my life.

Answer this simply question and I will know al about your "Christian walk" , is gay marriage an abomination unto God or not? is it a sin? yes or no thats all I want to know.

What you want to know are things you can use to inculcate your PERSONAL OPINION into this arguement. I couldn't care less if you want to call a civil union "marriage" or not. I'm not the one to judge that. Only HE is.

as you give Christianity a black eye as you try to force your narrow view point on others. That is not witnessing , it is bullying. My GOD is not a bully, nor does HE need bullies to share The WORD

Thats ALWAYS the arguement that satans spawn use to slow the harvest. I love that arguement, because its so self serving for your side. I suppose you would also say "all roads lead to God"

Get behind me satan

Get your own sanctimonious ass behind me as well. Your zealotry is ALWAYS what religious bigots use to enact their own agenda under the guise of "religion", when in fact, it is simply a weapon for secular agendas.
I think the admonition was to not suffer me to remove the splinter from my eye, whilst a log remains in yours.
You might wish to put words in my mouth, yet you would be wrong, again. What I would say is that MANY roads lead to Christ. Your particular "brand" of Christianity is but one path.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Romans828

When you come into this forum and openly condemn my Christian walk and witness among the unbelievers and then go onto comparing yourself to me and how you are "above" me is inappropriate. If you truely believe any this then call me to counsel as a brother in Christ Jesus, you should in 47 years know the procedure

You pity me? Please Don't, pity the lost and dying world instead.

You condemn others yet you expect some measure of fair treatment? How totally ignorant yet arrogant , all at once. I am simply comparing my prctice of my lifelong relationship with Christ.

They are not "my words of hate"

Yes or no GOD HATES SIN can you answer that?

GOD doesn't want us commiting any sins, yet he doesn't hate us for sinning, for that is what we do. HE loves all his children regardless, It is only the ones who have accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior who shall enter his kingdom.

BTW you cant be Christian "all your life" its not a birthright. Most of your life maybe.

I was born into a Christian Household and family. I accepted Jesus Christ at a very early age. DO NOT DEIGN to TELL ME I have not been Christian all my life.

Answer this simply question and I will know al about your "Christian walk" , is gay marriage an abomination unto God or not? is it a sin? yes or no thats all I want to know.

What you want to know are things you can use to inculcate your PERSONAL OPINION into this arguement. I couldn't care less if you want to call a civil union "marriage" or not. I'm not the one to judge that. Only HE is.

as you give Christianity a black eye as you try to force your narrow view point on others. That is not witnessing , it is bullying. My GOD is not a bully, nor does HE need bullies to share The WORD

Thats ALWAYS the arguement that satans spawn use to slow the harvest. I love that arguement, because its so self serving for your side. I suppose you would also say "all roads lead to God"

Get behind me satan

Get your own sanctimonious ass behind me as well. Your zealotry is ALWAYS what religious bigots use to enact their own agenda under the guise of "religion", when in fact, it is simply a weapon for secular agendas.
I think the admonition was to not suffer me to remove the splinter from my eye, whilst a log remains in yours.
You might wish to put words in my mouth, yet you would be wrong, again. What I would say is that MANY roads lead to Christ. Your particular "brand" of Christianity is but one path.

Actually your quite wrong again, but thats ok cause nobody's perfect 😉

I was wrong once to LOL

PS: chill out some man, don't take this forum TO SERIOUS...... Lifes to short

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Or it may be that there are just a lot of members who are concerned about discrimination. It's kind of ironic, don't you think, that without people voicing concerns about what they feel are injustices and discrimination, you'd still be riding in the back of the bus.

LOL. You just proved my point. It took over 300 damn years for "all those people to voice their concerns." And I certainly don't want to compare this with racism, because this about people's abnormal behavior, not their skin color, race, or religion. But here we have this all desire to support gay marriage. Yea right. I am sure its all because of the injustices and discrimination.

Its all about just wanting to be bent over. It ain't got a thing to do with discrimination. This all about the right to be open and gain some kind of acceptance. Give me a break. Enough with this skirting around the issue. All these gay rights flags are up because they want to have the right to have sex with the same sex and they don't want any backlash because of it. At least be bold and say it. Cowards

Wow, you don't think that perhaps your denial of people's true intentions might actually be their true intentions? That their support is born out of secretly being part of the group in question only? Were Whites who fought for Racial Equality secretly Black? Were Men who fought for Womens Rights secretly Women?

No, sorry, but you are the Coward. You are hiding behind the generally accepted denigration of a segment of Society that has always existed. You are taking the easy way out, the way of the Status Quo, because you got yours.

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Gaard
You don't have to like a person, or a group of people, to support equal rights for them. Right?

Indeed. Any rational person can support a persons or groups equal rights, without liking them or what they're doing.

Originally posted by: classy


But here we have this all desire to support gay marriage. Yea right. I am sure its all because of the injustices and discrimination. Its all about just wanting to be bent over. It ain't got a thing to do with discrimination. This all about the right to be open and gain some kind of acceptance. Give me a break. Enough with this skirting around the issue. All these gay rights flags are up because they want to have the right to have sex with the same sex and they don't want any backlash because of it. At least be bold and say it. Cowards

Nice going labeling everyone who doesn't have a problem with homosexuals or homosexual marriage, gay. Outstanding logic you're using there

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Actually your quite wrong again, but thats ok cause nobody's perfect 😉

I was wrong once to LOL

PS: chill out some man, don't take this forum TO SERIOUS...... Lifes to short

No , actually you're the one who's taking this forum TOO Seriously. Life's indeed too short to listen to sanctimony disgused as compassion.
BTW, you're STILL wrong in so many ways, theological and secular. But at least HE will forgive you, I do not have to.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Romans828

Actually your quite wrong again, but thats ok cause nobody's perfect 😉

I was wrong once to LOL

PS: chill out some man, don't take this forum TO SERIOUS...... Lifes to short

No , actually you're the one who's taking this forum TOO Seriously. Life's indeed too short to listen to sanctimony disgused as compassion.
BTW, you're STILL wrong in so many ways, theological and secular. But at least HE will forgive you, I do not have to.

Ok you win, Lets be friends ..........

Can I sleep over? LOL

Seriously, sorry if I pissed you off. Lets just agree to disagree on this one

:beer:

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Romans828
Lets just agree to disagree on this one

Yeah, that would be the best course of action for you two, since I doubt either of you are going to change your views on this. If this continued, it would end up with page after page of you two disagreeing 😛

 

[DealMonkey]

Too late Romans, you're going to burn in hell for this one . . .

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: JackStorm

Originally posted by: Romans828
Lets just agree to disagree on this one

Yeah, that would be the best course of action for you two, since I doubt either of you are going to change your views on this. If this continued, it would end up with page after page of you two disagreeing 😛

On this forum? Never!

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: Romans828
I am ordained as an apostle to the Lord, its under the authority of Christ I may speak and

Answer this simply question and I will know al about your "Christian walk" , is gay marriage an abomination unto God or not? is it a sin? yes or no thats all I want to know.

We all know your answer to that question, Romans, but since you like to ask questions so much, let me press you again to answer mine;

Is eating pork and bacon just as much of an abomination unto God as gay marriage, or not? Is it a sin?

Is eating an oyster also just as much of an abomination unto God? Is it a sin?

As an apostle to the Lord, should you not be preaching against these sins as well?

Did Paul not revoke all the dietary restrictions of the Jews? He did say we may eat any meat save that which has been strangled. As long as you slice the neck and bleed the pig it is ok to eat =)
Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Thanks for the quote, bugs - I couldn't remember where that was from 😱 I was thinking of his letter to the epehesians, where he says that Jesus abolished the commandments and ordinances.

Yet all this seems to go against what Jesus taught in Matthew, where he said that he had not come to destroy the law - that not one word would be changed till heaven and earth had passed.

Paul's words in Acts confuse me somewhat - in context he seems to be saying that these are sufficient laws for the gentiles who wish to worship Christ to live by, leaving out a whole host of important others (not least that they should abstain from homosexuality).

Thats not what Christ said. He said he came not to destroy the law but fulfill the law. I don't feel like debating what he meant, but it means the penalty of the law. He came to take away the penalty of the law and offer an eternal sacrifice through his death. It goes way deep in which it could take hours, even days to just reach the meat of what he was talking about.

I see you know this better than me, bugs, so I shall take your word for it.
But where does this leave homosexuality?

this quote comes to mind.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Lesbianism and homosexuality is not painted in a pretty light. It is against nature ,unseemly and an error .
Paul goes even further in
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[DealMonkey]

Beyond all of the lame proselytizing going on in this thread, does anyone else find this at all ironic?

Schwarzenegger: Let foreign-born seek White House

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Arnold Schwarzenegger, making his Sunday talk show debut as governor, said that he and other foreign-born citizens should be eligible to run for the White House and that President Bush can carry California in November if he does more to help the state.

The Austrian-born former bodybuilder, in the capital for his first meeting with fellow governors, said he has not thought about running for president. The Constitution says only natural-born U.S. citizens are eligible for the country's highest office.

The Republican governor said anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years -- as he has -- should "absolutely" be able to seek the presidency. A constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, would make that possible.

"There are so many people in this country that are now from overseas, that are immigrants, that are doing such a terrific job with their work, bringing businesses here, that there's no reason why not," said Schwarzenegger, who became a U.S. citizen in 1983.

...<snip>...

So, it's OK to discriminate against gays who want to get married? Yet, there's a problem with discriminating against foreigners who want to run for the presidency? Hmmmm, interesting Arnie, verrrry interesting.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Beyond all of the lame proselytizing going on in this thread, does anyone else find this at all ironic?

Schwarzenegger: Let foreign-born seek White House

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Arnold Schwarzenegger, making his Sunday talk show debut as governor, said that he and other foreign-born citizens should be eligible to run for the White House and that President Bush can carry California in November if he does more to help the state.

The Austrian-born former bodybuilder, in the capital for his first meeting with fellow governors, said he has not thought about running for president. The Constitution says only natural-born U.S. citizens are eligible for the country's highest office.

The Republican governor said anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years -- as he has -- should "absolutely" be able to seek the presidency. A constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, would make that possible.

"There are so many people in this country that are now from overseas, that are immigrants, that are doing such a terrific job with their work, bringing businesses here, that there's no reason why not," said Schwarzenegger, who became a U.S. citizen in 1983.

...<snip>...

So, it's OK to discriminate against gays who want to get married? Yet, there's a problem with discriminating against foreigners who want to run for the presidency? Hmmmm, interesting Arnie, verrrry interesting.

Outsourcing rules! Get with the program man. 😉

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

this quote comes to mind.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Lesbianism and homosexuality is not painted in a pretty light. It is against nature ,unseemly and an error .
Paul goes even further in
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

(Butting in here.)

Homosexuality is NOT against nature.

Other social science researchers also argued against the prevailing negative view of homosexuality. In a review of published scientific studies and archival data, Ford and Beach (1951) found that homosexual behavior was widespread among various nonhuman species and in a large number of human societies. They reported that homosexual behavior of some sort was considered normal and socially acceptable for at least some individuals in 64% of the 76 societies in their sample; in the remaining societies, adult homosexual activity was reported to be totally absent, rare, or carried on only in secrecy.

As with Kinsey, whether this proportion applies to all human societies cannot be known because a nonprobability sample was used. However, the findings of Ford and Beach demonstrate that homosexual behavior occurs in many societies and is not always condemned (for more recent cross-cultural data, see Herdt, 1984; Williams, 1986).

It's only fundamental Christians, such as yourself, that would seek to discriminate against gays.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Wow, and to think, only yesterday we were being called niqqer lovers in just the same way.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Too late Romans, you're going to burn in hell for this one . . .

No no no silly monkey.......

At worst case I add this offense to all the others I may have committed in my life, but not burn in hell.

I got a get out of hell free pass, its mine to use when the time comes. Do you have one?
😉

PS: Im joking with ya...........

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Wow, and to think, only yesterday we were being called niqqer lovers in just the same way.

Well its good to see you stand up and admit your apart of "we". I ain't suprised.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Wow, and to think, only yesterday we were being called niqqer lovers in just the same way.

Well its good to see you stand up and admit your apart of "we". I ain't suprised.

I'm sure moonbeam was not one of that we. He was speaking colloquially. Since you are so wont to label most people up here as closet homosexuals, surely you would have been quick to call people niqqer lovers who saw through the injustices back in the 50s and 60s.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Wow, and to think, only yesterday we were being called niqqer lovers in just the same way.

Well its good to see you stand up and admit your apart of "we". I ain't suprised.

I'm sure moonbeam was not one of that we. He was speaking colloquially. Since you are so wont to label most people up here as closet homosexuals, surely you would have been quick to call people niqqer lovers who saw through the injustices back in the 50s and 60s.

Not to worry, conjur, he has little else to say. And the time is comming when homosexuals will be accepted as part of the human race. When that happens the tremendous bigotry they have been exposed to will resurface as prejudice in many many of them. It's how hate works. People who are hated learn to hate. We will soon be seeing tons of homosexual bigots. People act out what they have experienced until they awaken. The only cure is love and self understanding.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: classy
You know I hate to say this. There is a lot of closet homosexuals on this board I believe. Its amazing how the question of why do people who are against gay marriage have such a problem with it. Hmmm... I ask the question for all of you who support it, why are you so staunch in favor of it? Is it because you have a personal stake in it? Its quite a few who seem to have taken a real "personal" interest in defending and even promoting the gay agenda. If this many white people had taken this kind of interest in racial equality, maybe we would have not had a country with a 200 plus year history of slavery and 100 plus year fight after that for civil rights. There is only one reason so many of you are debating this hard in favor of this........................it is clear, it is of personal interest. So if you want to put on your pink g strings, then go right ahead. LOL. 😛 But just stand on your own merit, stop trying to make excuses, and gain acceptance for "your" abnormal behavior.

Wow, and to think, only yesterday we were being called niqqer lovers in just the same way.

Well its good to see you stand up and admit your apart of "we". I ain't suprised.

I'm sure moonbeam was not one of that we. He was speaking colloquially. Since you are so wont to label most people up here as closet homosexuals, surely you would have been quick to call people niqqer lovers who saw through the injustices back in the 50s and 60s.

Yea right. He just wanted to slip in the old standby. And for the last time stop trying to put forth the notion that blacks should be obligated to support homosexuality. Its like comparing a male to a female, lol. They are totally different. Its amazing how no name calling was brought up till the old "ni***** lover quote". U guys ain't worth #$%@...........

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: conjur
I'm sure moonbeam was not one of that we. He was speaking colloquially. Since you are so wont to label most people up here as closet homosexuals, surely you would have been quick to call people niqqer lovers who saw through the injustices back in the 50s and 60s.

Yea right. He just wanted to slip in the old standby. And for the last time stop trying to put forth the notion that blacks should be obligated to support homosexuality. Its like comparing a male to a female, lol. They are totally different. Its amazing how no name calling was brought up till the old "ni***** lover quote". U guys ain't worth #$%@...........

1) I see no name calling in what I wrote. What the hell are you reading?
2) Where did I say that blacks are obligated to support homosexuality?

All moonbeam is doing is comparing bigots. Just so happens that people who supported civil rights for minorities are now being pointed out by conservatives as "f*g lovers" or closet homosexuals.

It's utterly ridiculous and is an injustice to the term generalization.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam


Not to worry, conjur, he has little else to say. And the time is comming when homosexuals will be accepted as part of the human race. When that happens the tremendous bigotry they have been exposed to will resurface as prejudice in many many of them. It's how hate works. People who are hated learn to hate. We will soon be seeing tons of homosexual bigots. People act out what they have experienced until they awaken. The only cure is love and self understanding.

I think, in that last line, you meant to say:

"Their only cure is understanding and self-love."


😉

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: conjur
I'm sure moonbeam was not one of that we. He was speaking colloquially. Since you are so wont to label most people up here as closet homosexuals, surely you would have been quick to call people niqqer lovers who saw through the injustices back in the 50s and 60s.

Yea right. He just wanted to slip in the old standby. And for the last time stop trying to put forth the notion that blacks should be obligated to support homosexuality. Its like comparing a male to a female, lol. They are totally different. Its amazing how no name calling was brought up till the old "ni***** lover quote". U guys ain't worth #$%@...........

1) I see no name calling in what I wrote. What the hell are you reading?
2) Where did I say that blacks are obligated to support homosexuality?

All moonbeam is doing is comparing bigots. Just so happens that people who supported civil rights for minorities are now being pointed out by conservatives as "f*g lovers" or closet homosexuals.

It's utterly ridiculous and is an injustice to the term generalization.

Huh? He just refered to himself as being a lover of Niqqers. Gee thanks for reminding me that some folks still like him still love us lesser people. I should be so honored. Here we're talking about homosexuality, he starts with the niqqer references. Moonie is flat out an @-hole.