The Governator Seeks to Terminate Gay Weddings

[BugsBunny1078]

You could bet that but you'd be wrong. I actually know several gay people and I don't view them as any lesser than me at all. I am as much a sinner as they are. I love them, I go to church with them, I hug them, I eat with them.
I have also had several black friends over the years also. The pastor of my church is black and I spent last christmas at his mom's house even. You're very mistaken if you want to equate opposing gay marriage with bigotry. I don't judge people at all I just view marriage as a man and woman partnership. Government should not be involved in marriage at all( no licenses needed). In the old days you met a girl you told her you want her to be your wife she said ok you took her home and you were married. That is all that is really needed. All these court papers just muck it up.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
You could bet that but you'd be wrong. I actually know several gay people and I don't view them as any lesser than me at all. I am as much a sinner as they are. I love them, I go to church with them, I hug them, I eat with them.
I have also had several black friends over the years also. The pastor of my church is black and I spent last christmas at his mom's house even. You're very mistaken if you want to equate opposing gay marriage with bigotry. I don't judge people at all I just view marriage as a man and woman partnership. Government should not be involved in marriage at all( no licenses needed). In the old days you met a girl you told her you want her to be your wife she said ok you took her home and you were married. That is all that is really needed. All these court papers just muck it up.

Is it truly bliss as the saying goes?

 

[Moonbeam]

I just view marriage as a man and woman partnership.

You just view, just like that out of thin air, no rhyme, no reason, no logic, no explanation, just your bigotry blowing out your ass. And you've never noticed that you are insane. 😀

Yup, I just know gays shouldn't marry and I'm the alpha and omega.

"Just because two women like having sex with eachother doesn't make it ok.We have a duty as a society to keep our standard of what is proper behavior and what isn't. If we lower the bar to accomodate homos then there is no reason for anyone to strive to be higher than that. But there is reason for the people a little lower on the bar to clamor for it to be lowered a little more. " Yup, you bigots are asking gays to lower the bar to your level. No way. It's time for bigotry to go. You love your stupid interpretation of the Book more than you do the human race and because it says you're supposed to love you imagine that you do. So sad, the Book of Love didn't help you. You only saw the letters and the spirit flew right by.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Romans828

What S.F. is doing is perfectly legal

How can that be its against the laws of God?

Therefore its not perfect nor legal and certainly not perfectly legal

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches ... therefore stick your laws of god up ur butt

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Romans828

What S.F. is doing is perfectly legal

How can that be its against the laws of God?

Therefore its not perfect nor legal and certainly not perfectly legal

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches ... therefore stick your laws of god up ur butt

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches

How nice for you

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Romans828

What S.F. is doing is perfectly legal

How can that be its against the laws of God?

Therefore its not perfect nor legal and certainly not perfectly legal

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches ... therefore stick your laws of god up ur butt

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches

How nice for you

He is no different than you. Your God is as much you as his is he. You just externalize your self worship and give it a different name. There is only one God so all gods are the same, right?

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Romans828

What S.F. is doing is perfectly legal

How can that be its against the laws of God?

Therefore its not perfect nor legal and certainly not perfectly legal

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches ... therefore stick your laws of god up ur butt

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches

How nice for you

He is no different than you. Your God is as much you as his is he. You just externalize your self worship and give it a different name. There is only one God so all gods are the same, right?

There is only one God so all gods are the same, right?

Sort of for the first part....

There is only one TRUE God, The Living God.

Wrong for the second part.... (all gods are not the same)

All other gods are wrong. Like God himself says in Commandment number 1:

You shall have no other gods before Me.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Romans828

What S.F. is doing is perfectly legal

How can that be its against the laws of God?

Therefore its not perfect nor legal and certainly not perfectly legal

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches ... therefore stick your laws of god up ur butt

the only god i believe in is me .... im a golden god, bit ches

How nice for you

He is no different than you. Your God is as much you as his is he. You just externalize your self worship and give it a different name. There is only one God so all gods are the same, right?

There is only one God so all gods are the same, right?

Sort of for the first part....

There is only one TRUE God, The Living God.

Wrong for the second part.... (all gods are not the same)

All other gods are wrong. Like God himself says in Commandment number 1:

You shall have no other gods before Me.

Hehe, I didn't expect you would be able to think too good cause you been propagandized and live in a mental circle, but lets try again:

There are millions of the one True God, so they must all be Him. It's just that you and all the millions of others who think they know who He is are part right and part wrong. He's just too big to be owned by one person alone and no two people seem him exactly the same. God is the source of all blessings but people don't like to share. That's why the One True God is known only to me by a secret word and I'm not telling.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The real problem, of course, is that laws against gay marriage are unconstitutional and all rational people know it. Being opposed to gay marriage is like being opposed to interracial marriage or blacks or any other group. Lots of people are trying to stay off history's big bigot's list cause they know Santa's making a list.

Holy crap!!
I agree with Moonbeam.
WTF is going on here?

This constitunional amendment BS is almost enough to make me vote against Bush.
If only there was a better option than Kerry.

 

[Romans828]

Hey Moonbeam,

is there anyway we can land on the same planet and continue this conversation 😀

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The real problem, of course, is that laws against gay marriage are unconstitutional and all rational people know it. Being opposed to gay marriage is like being opposed to interracial marriage or blacks or any other group. Lots of people are trying to stay off history's big bigot's list cause they know Santa's making a list.

Holy crap!!
I agree with Moonbeam.
WTF is going on here?

This constitunional amendment BS is almost enough to make me vote against Bush.
If only there was a better option than Kerry.

Edwards 🙂

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The real problem, of course, is that laws against gay marriage are unconstitutional and all rational people know it. Being opposed to gay marriage is like being opposed to interracial marriage or blacks or any other group. Lots of people are trying to stay off history's big bigot's list cause they know Santa's making a list.

Holy crap!!
I agree with Moonbeam.
WTF is going on here?

This constitunional amendment BS is almost enough to make me vote against Bush.
If only there was a better option than Kerry.

Edwards 🙂

Well, if Clark was still running, I could vote against Bush and still be voting for a Republican war monger 🙂

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Romans828
Hey Moonbeam,

is there anyway we can land on the same planet and continue this conversation 😀

Well yes and no. I am adapted to live on many planets and you on only one so I guess it all depends on how I feel. I must warn you though, in my natural form I have horns and hooves not to mention my tail. It puts a lot of people off. Now, what exactly did you want to discuss?

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
One thing is for sure, if two people get married who both have a long standing belief that divorce is wrong the likelihood of divorce is slim. Choose your partner wisely. Christians should not marry non-christians because of the conflicts in idealogy. Christian men must live to take care of their wives and Christian women must submit to their husband. If both do their part then divorce is impossible.

Okay, Dr. Laura, whatever you say. Ehhhh, wassup doc? 😛

While I totally agree with you on the gay marriage issue and the fact that Bugs is a narrow minded religious zealot moron, you are totally wrong about Dr. Laura's views. She would never say anything like that. While she would say that it is important for a woman to try to support and please her husband, it is reciprocal. She also believes that a husband should do everything possible to try to support and please his wife. And she would never suggest that a woman should put up with any crap from a man. She has told many many women to dump their husbands or boyfriends because they are losers and don't treat their women right.

I'm sure you hate Dr. Laura simply because she is religious and conservative(she's Jewish by the way), but you should take the time to understand what she is saying if you are going to try to bash her by suggesting her views are in any way similar to an idiot like BugsBunny. She takes plenty of bashing from the left, but most of them have never actually listened to her long enough to understand.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Romans828
Hey Moonbeam,

is there anyway we can land on the same planet and continue this conversation 😀

Well yes and no. I am adapted to live on many planets and you on only one so I guess it all depends on how I feel. I must warn you though, in my natural form I have horns and hooves not to mention my tail. It puts a lot of people off. Now, what exactly did you want to discuss?

Ah...but chicks dig the tail!

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Romans828
Hey Moonbeam,

is there anyway we can land on the same planet and continue this conversation 😀

Well yes and no. I am adapted to live on many planets and you on only one so I guess it all depends on how I feel. I must warn you though, in my natural form I have horns and hooves not to mention my tail. It puts a lot of people off. Now, what exactly did you want to discuss?

Ah...but chicks dig the tail!

Now, what exactly did you want to discuss?

[/quote]

I have forgot 😕

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
One thing is for sure, if two people get married who both have a long standing belief that divorce is wrong the likelihood of divorce is slim. Choose your partner wisely. Christians should not marry non-christians because of the conflicts in idealogy. Christian men must live to take care of their wives and Christian women must submit to their husband. If both do their part then divorce is impossible.

Okay, Dr. Laura, whatever you say. Ehhhh, wassup doc? 😛

While I totally agree with you on the gay marriage issue and the fact that Bugs is a narrow minded religious zealot moron, you are totally wrong about Dr. Laura's views. She would never say anything like that. While she would say that it is important for a woman to try to support and please her husband, it is reciprocal. She also believes that a husband should do everything possible to try to support and please his wife. And she would never suggest that a woman should put up with any crap from a man. She has told many many women to dump their husbands or boyfriends because they are losers and don't treat their women right.

I'm sure you hate Dr. Laura simply because she is religious and conservative(she's Jewish by the way), but you should take the time to understand what she is saying if you are going to try to bash her by suggesting her views are in any way similar to an idiot like BugsBunny. She takes plenty of bashing from the left, but most of them have never actually listened to her long enough to understand.

Calling people names shows lack of intellect. Many of the least intelligent people I know resort to name calling whenever someone disagrees with them, even when the other person is smarter and they know it. It doesn't mean much to me since I have been called everything in the book from "smartest person I know" to "idiot". Well I looked at all the evidence and decided the Bible was true you are still ignorant of many things. Your lack of knowledge that God's word is true doesn't make you smarter it is just one more thing you do not know, that I do. But personal attacks like that are against the forum rules, so please refrain from that.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
One thing is for sure, if two people get married who both have a long standing belief that divorce is wrong the likelihood of divorce is slim. Choose your partner wisely. Christians should not marry non-christians because of the conflicts in idealogy. Christian men must live to take care of their wives and Christian women must submit to their husband. If both do their part then divorce is impossible.

Okay, Dr. Laura, whatever you say. Ehhhh, wassup doc? 😛

While I totally agree with you on the gay marriage issue and the fact that Bugs is a narrow minded religious zealot moron, you are totally wrong about Dr. Laura's views. She would never say anything like that. While she would say that it is important for a woman to try to support and please her husband, it is reciprocal. She also believes that a husband should do everything possible to try to support and please his wife. And she would never suggest that a woman should put up with any crap from a man. She has told many many women to dump their husbands or boyfriends because they are losers and don't treat their women right.

I'm sure you hate Dr. Laura simply because she is religious and conservative(she's Jewish by the way), but you should take the time to understand what she is saying if you are going to try to bash her by suggesting her views are in any way similar to an idiot like BugsBunny. She takes plenty of bashing from the left, but most of them have never actually listened to her long enough to understand.

Calling people names shows lack of intellect. Many of the least intelligent people I know resort to name calling whenever someone disagrees with them, even when the other person is smarter and they know it. It doesn't mean much to me since I have been called everything in the book from "smartest person I know" to "idiot". Well I looked at all the evidence and decided the Bible was true you are still ignorant of many things. Your lack of knowledge that God's word is true doesn't make you smarter it is just one more thing you do not know, that I do. But personal attacks like that are against the forum rules, so please refrain from that.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.
You are funny.
I didn't "resort to name calling". I made my arguments. Referring to you as a moron was simply a descriptive term that reflects the facts.
You are narrow-minded because you fail to accept that any views beyond your own may be valid.
You are a religious zealot because you believe we should all have to live by your religious views whether we want to or not.
You are a moron because you lack the intelligence or knowledge to understand the concept of separation of church and state.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Well seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution, and it doesn't mean seperation of morals and state. It is merely an ideology started by the courts with no basis in law. States even have the right to ban homosexuals from practicing their preferred sexuality. Christians are voters and we will vote to uphold our morals whether others like them or not. Because we're right and we know it. Now will someone please ban Shanti?

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Well seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution, and it doesn't mean seperation of morals and state. It is merely an ideology started by the courts with no basis in law. States even have the right to ban homosexuals from practicing their preferred sexuality. Christians are voters and we will vote to uphold our morals whether others like them or not. Because we're right and we know it. Now will someone please ban Shanti?

Are you for real?
Or is this some kind of long-running sarcasm?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

You realize that is part of the first amendment to the constitution right?

You realize the constitution is supposed to be the basis for our laws right?

Wow, you do nothing but reinforce the "moron" reference.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Well seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution, and it doesn't mean seperation of morals and state. It is merely an ideology started by the courts with no basis in law. States even have the right to ban homosexuals from practicing their preferred sexuality. Christians are voters and we will vote to uphold our morals whether others like them or not. Because we're right and we know it. Now will someone please ban Shanti?

Are you for real?
Or is this some kind of long-running sarcasm?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

You realize that is part of the first amendment to the constitution right?

You realize the constitution is supposed to be the basis for our laws right?

Wow, you do nothing but reinforce the "moron" reference.

Allthough you appear share my views in the abortion debate.......... I must step in this thread

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

This establishes freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Infact we laws or rules are pased that prohibit prayer in school, religious ceremonies, Christmas decorations/nativity scenes etc, it flys directly in the face of this very amendment.

You realize the constitution is supposed to be the basis for our laws right?

You realize the Bible/Christian faith is the basis for our Constitution?

To suggest this country was founded on anything but strict Christian princibles is revising history

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Well since that other thread is closed I will say that I do apologize for threatening physical violence to your person.
It just goes to show what we Christians always say is that noone is perfect but Jesus. I also know our opposition would say "oh look there is another imperfect christian" well yes I am imperfect just like everyone else. I have all the same temptations as everyone else and strive to deal with them. Jesus does help me in so many ways. Name calling angers me very greatly and if anything would tend to make me violent it is that. I wouldn't stand for anyone being called names and belittled in my presence, let alone myself. I pray for the wisdom to handle things how Jesus would.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Well seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution, and it doesn't mean seperation of morals and state. It is merely an ideology started by the courts with no basis in law. States even have the right to ban homosexuals from practicing their preferred sexuality. Christians are voters and we will vote to uphold our morals whether others like them or not. Because we're right and we know it. Now will someone please ban Shanti?

Are you for real?
Or is this some kind of long-running sarcasm?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

You realize that is part of the first amendment to the constitution right?

You realize the constitution is supposed to be the basis for our laws right?

Wow, you do nothing but reinforce the "moron" reference.

Allthough you appear share my views in the abortion debate.......... I must step in this thread

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

This establishes freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Infact we laws or rules are pased that prohibit prayer in school, religious ceremonies, Christmas decorations/nativity scenes etc, it flys directly in the face of this very amendment.

tsk tsk tsk

Romans, you know we've been over this before.

When only Christian artifacts are displayed or pushed upon the U.S. citizenry it in effect *is* establishing a religion. There must clearly be a line between church and state. Keep religion and preaching and prayer, etc. in the CHURCH and let the STATE take care of education and governing.

kthxbye!

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Allthough you appear share my views in the abortion debate.......... I must step in this thread

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

This establishes freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Infact we laws or rules are pased that prohibit prayer in school, religious ceremonies, Christmas decorations/nativity scenes etc, it flys directly in the face of this very amendment.

You realize the constitution is supposed to be the basis for our laws right?

You realize the Bible/Christian faith is the basis for our Constitution?

To suggest this country was founded on anything but strict Christian princibles is revising history

I agree with you partially. Prohibiting a student from choosing on his own to pray while in school or prohibiting a student from wearing a cross does "fly directly in the face" of the first amendment.
Prohibiting schools from "establishing" a prayer time or having nativity scenes or christmas decorations, however, is perfectly in line with the prohibition against establishing a religion.

Private citizens have the right to practice their religion and freely express themselves in public. Government run agencies like the public school system do not have the right to do anything that promotes one particular religion over another. Having a public school put up christmas decorations is a subtle way of establishing christianity as THE standard religion. Therefore it violates the constitution and should not be allowed.

I agree, we have freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion when it comes to our personal lives.
But we should also have freedom FROM government sponsored religion.

Yes, I know that our constitution was influenced by biblical law. That does not change the fact that the first amendment prohibits the establishment of religion. This clause was added to prevent the kind of religious prosecution that occurs when the government sanctions and establishes one religion over another. Government should NOT be in the business of favoring one religion over another or even of favoring any religion over the lack of religion. That is not freedom and freedom is what our country should be about.

I agree with you on the abortion issue because of basic moral decency and humanity, not because of religious beliefs.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Well since that other thread is closed I will say that I do apologize for threatening physical violence to your person.
It just goes to show what we Christians always say is that noone is perfect but Jesus. I also know our opposition would say "oh look there is another imperfect christian" well yes I am imperfect just like everyone else. I have all the same temptations as everyone else and strive to deal with them. Jesus does help me in so many ways. Name calling angers me very greatly and if anything would tend to make me violent it is that. I wouldn't stand for anyone being called names and belittled in my presence, let alone myself. I pray for the wisdom to handle things how Jesus would.

Nice of you to apologize but you should really stop with the hypocritical viewpoint.

Go ahead and walk up to a homosexual and call him/her a homo. Then come back and report to us how that person took that remark.

If they smiled and shook your hand, I'll buy you a steak dinner.