The Glass Trick

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tk149

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Originally posted by: Injury
It's the table, not the items being shown.

Notice how you can't see the legs that are under the table.

It's all reflections/refractions.

You can get a science toy that works mostly the same.

It's like a bowl, with the inside mirrored. Another one is put over top of it, upside down, but this one has a big hole in the top. If you set something in the center of the bottom one and look at it from most any angle that allows a clear view of the hole, it appears that the item is sitting right on top of the hole, and that there isn't a hole, but a mirror. Reach for it, and you cannot grab it.
You can see legs (table's and people's) and shoes through the table. Not to mention you can see his hand and the girls' hands. :roll:

The science toy you describe works on parabolic reflection. Nothing about that table top (or any part of the table) looks curved to me. Also, in the toy, the placement of the object is important, and can only be in a fairly small space. It looks like this magician used 3 different parts of the table.

Those tricks are pretty cool. Even the combined power of ATOT can't figure out how they work.

 

Savarak

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: Savarak
i can tell with the ring that the first coin trick was fake, just watch his right hand the entire time, the original was always there... the salt shaker one i dunno...

they obviously ALL are fake. unless you seriously believe someone can stick their hand through solid glass. LOL.

the point is, its a magic trick, and its fun to watch. we all know magic tricks are fake, but the point of the tricks is the 'wow'/cool factor.

of course obviously ALL fake, what i meant is just watching it i have no idea how he accomplished that salt shaker trick cuz it sure wasn't as obvious as the first few tricks
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Savarak
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: Savarak
i can tell with the ring that the first coin trick was fake, just watch his right hand the entire time, the original was always there... the salt shaker one i dunno...

they obviously ALL are fake. unless you seriously believe someone can stick their hand through solid glass. LOL.

the point is, its a magic trick, and its fun to watch. we all know magic tricks are fake, but the point of the tricks is the 'wow'/cool factor.

of course obviously ALL fake, what i meant is just watching it i have no idea how he accomplished that salt shaker trick cuz it sure wasn't as obvious as the first few tricks

Oh come on people.

You didn't notice his shirt sleeve was all the way to his wrist when doing the salt shaker trick??? :confused:

He had another shaker there. :roll:
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Injury
It's the table, not the items being shown.

Notice how you can't see the legs that are under the table.

It's all reflections/refractions.

You can get a science toy that works mostly the same.

It's like a bowl, with the inside mirrored. Another one is put over top of it, upside down, but this one has a big hole in the top. If you set something in the center of the bottom one and look at it from most any angle that allows a clear view of the hole, it appears that the item is sitting right on top of the hole, and that there isn't a hole, but a mirror. Reach for it, and you cannot grab it.
You can see legs (table's and people's) and shoes through the table. Not to mention you can see his hand and the girls' hands. :roll:

The science toy you describe works on parabolic reflection. Nothing about that table top (or any part of the table) looks curved to me. Also, in the toy, the placement of the object is important, and can only be in a fairly small space. It looks like this magician used 3 different parts of the table.

Those tricks are pretty cool. Even the combined power of ATOT can't figure out how they work.

It can still work with just glass or double-sided mirrors if set up right. I never said that it's the exact same as the science toy, but works in a smiliar way.

I'm willing to bet that there is more than just one layer to that table.

Much better than anything you've come up with, so don't roll eyes me, douche.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Injury
It's the table, not the items being shown.

Notice how you can't see the legs that are under the table.

It's all reflections/refractions.

You can get a science toy that works mostly the same.

It's like a bowl, with the inside mirrored. Another one is put over top of it, upside down, but this one has a big hole in the top. If you set something in the center of the bottom one and look at it from most any angle that allows a clear view of the hole, it appears that the item is sitting right on top of the hole, and that there isn't a hole, but a mirror. Reach for it, and you cannot grab it.
You can see legs (table's and people's) and shoes through the table. Not to mention you can see his hand and the girls' hands. :roll:

The science toy you describe works on parabolic reflection. Nothing about that table top (or any part of the table) looks curved to me. Also, in the toy, the placement of the object is important, and can only be in a fairly small space. It looks like this magician used 3 different parts of the table.

Those tricks are pretty cool. Even the combined power of ATOT can't figure out how they work.

It can still work with just glass or double-sided mirrors if set up right. I never said that it's the exact same as the science toy, but works in a smiliar way.

I'm willing to bet that there is more than just one layer to that table.

Much better than anything you've come up with, so don't roll eyes me, douche.

You posited an explanation based on a blatantly incorrect observation, and I proved you wrong. Then you call me a "douche." Does your fragile little ego feel better now?

I tend to agree that the trick was done with mirrors, but unlike you, I'm not willing to claim that it is something that I can't prove, just because I believe it to be so. Did I not admit that I couldn't figure it out?

 

DrPizza

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I'm not going to even bother attempting to watch the video (on dial-up right now)
However, miracles can happen, all thanks to some mirrors, and the refractive index of glass.
Note: You can get glass with different refractive indices.


My favorite magic trick (when I'm teaching refraction in physics) is to take some broken pyrex glass, smash it up a bit more, dump it into my magic liquid (glycerine) mix it a bit, reach in and pull out a brand new beaker :) Pyrex glass is all but invisible in glycerine. (And, I also point out that because the refractive index of diamonds is different than that of water, diamonds are *not* invisible when they're in water, despite what they tell you in movies)
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
I'm not going to even bother attempting to watch the video (on dial-up right now)
However, miracles can happen, all thanks to some mirrors, and the refractive index of glass.
Note: You can get glass with different refractive indices.


My favorite magic trick (when I'm teaching refraction in physics) is to take some broken pyrex glass, smash it up a bit more, dump it into my magic liquid (glycerine) mix it a bit, reach in and pull out a brand new beaker :) Pyrex glass is all but invisible in glycerine. (And, I also point out that because the refractive index of diamonds is different than that of water, diamonds are *not* invisible when they're in water, despite what they tell you in movies)


The video shows the objects which was on top of glass appears later at the bottom of glass and is confirmed by the hand below the table by moving it with his hand beneath the table. It's nothing to do with refraction index.

The magician says in Japanese at the end of the video " Fell free to come to this restaurant to check the coin is really submerged inside the glass" when his last trick was to submerge the coin inside the glass.
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Is this the guy climbing through the window with a piece of paper in front of it again?

different one. althouh it's still fake.

Here we go again...

Look, I'm not saying it's real. But saying "it's fake" without offering evidence is about the same as saying "it's real" without any proof. It doesn't help anybody. If you know how he did it, please share. If you can point out indications of fabrication, please share. Otherwise, keep your unhelpful comments to yourself.

I believe what he meant by fake was the same as I had thought; entirely staged. I believe the entire audience is in on it. I mean, with that kind of "ability" you could be robbing jewelery stores left and right. And don't give me that bullshit like "maybe he has morals and ethics" because they only apply to a certain degree.

The video, like most on the internet, is fake.


The video is from a Japanese Variety show which included small PIP of celebrities on the bottom right corner ocassionaly. The celebrities are confirmed by my Japanese friend; And I am therefore sure it is a geniue TV program Aired in Japan.

Therefore the video must not be a fake replica or some sort. It is highly unlikely it is staged. Even with audiences helping it doesn't explain how the tricks are performed, especially in the last tick where the coin is submerged into the glass confirmed by scratching at top and bottom of the glass.

Also the magician did say Fell free to come to this restaurant to check the coin is really submerged into the glass
at the end
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Injury
It's the table, not the items being shown.

Notice how you can't see the legs that are under the table.

It's all reflections/refractions.

You can get a science toy that works mostly the same.

It's like a bowl, with the inside mirrored. Another one is put over top of it, upside down, but this one has a big hole in the top. If you set something in the center of the bottom one and look at it from most any angle that allows a clear view of the hole, it appears that the item is sitting right on top of the hole, and that there isn't a hole, but a mirror. Reach for it, and you cannot grab it.
You can see legs (table's and people's) and shoes through the table. Not to mention you can see his hand and the girls' hands. :roll:

The science toy you describe works on parabolic reflection. Nothing about that table top (or any part of the table) looks curved to me. Also, in the toy, the placement of the object is important, and can only be in a fairly small space. It looks like this magician used 3 different parts of the table.

Those tricks are pretty cool. Even the combined power of ATOT can't figure out how they work.

It can still work with just glass or double-sided mirrors if set up right. I never said that it's the exact same as the science toy, but works in a smiliar way.

I'm willing to bet that there is more than just one layer to that table.

Much better than anything you've come up with, so don't roll eyes me, douche.

You posited an explanation based on a blatantly incorrect observation, and I proved you wrong. Then you call me a "douche." Does your fragile little ego feel better now?

I tend to agree that the trick was done with mirrors, but unlike you, I'm not willing to claim that it is something that I can't prove, just because I believe it to be so. Did I not admit that I couldn't figure it out?

:roll:

Wow, you're picking an argument over a thread about illusions. Seems you're the one that has issues with the ego.

ALRIGHT, YOU WIN! YOU'RE SO AMAZING!

There you go. Now run along with your e-wang proudly bulging our of your e-pants.
 

Quasmo

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Ok watch the video, if you look at it, first hes wearing a watch wear he hides the coin, then he takes the top coin and keeps it in his right hand possibly using the ring as a device, when he waves his hands the coin drops from the watch into his palm, and bam its under the table, 2 coins in use here btw. Remember he selected the coin. This is what I think happened.
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Ok watch the video, if you look at it, first hes wearing a watch wear he hides the coin, then he takes the top coin and keeps it in his right hand possibly using the ring as a device, when he waves his hands the coin drops from the watch into his palm, and bam its under the table, 2 coins in use here btw. Remember he selected the coin. This is what I think happened.

How do you think the 2nd and last tricks performed?

2nd is the salt one
3rd is with the ladies one where the coin is suspended inside the glass, confirmed when the lady, him and later the manager scratches the glass
 

GoingUp

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Thats damn sweet. I think I see the coin sleight of hands, but I dont understand the salt shaker bit.
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: Injury
It's the table, not the items being shown.

Notice how you can't see the legs that are under the table.

It's all reflections/refractions.

You can get a science toy that works mostly the same.

It's like a bowl, with the inside mirrored. Another one is put over top of it, upside down, but this one has a big hole in the top. If you set something in the center of the bottom one and look at it from most any angle that allows a clear view of the hole, it appears that the item is sitting right on top of the hole, and that there isn't a hole, but a mirror. Reach for it, and you cannot grab it.


What are you talking about? You can clearly see the legs and the feet moving of the girl next to him.
 

GoingUp

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As far as the coin trick goes, its something using a butter coin from what ive found on the web. I cant come up with what exactly a butter coin is though.
 

Looney

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There was probably some video-editing involved too... you get the sense it's real time, but if you watch the video, he begins the tricks with his sleeves up, but then for the salt-shaker trick, his sleeves are down... the camera pans out for a split second, and then back and his sleeves are down, so it's definitely not live or real-time.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Quasmo
Ok watch the video, if you look at it, first hes wearing a watch wear he hides the coin, then he takes the top coin and keeps it in his right hand possibly using the ring as a device, when he waves his hands the coin drops from the watch into his palm, and bam its under the table, 2 coins in use here btw. Remember he selected the coin. This is what I think happened.

You're right... magic is all about distractions... and if you look at the coin, or where you think the coin should be, you don't see how it's done. Look at his finger ring... he begins the trick with his palm directly ontop of the coin, then removes his palm to show you the coin is still there, but then when he places his hand back onto the coin, the ring is now directly ontop of the coin. The ring has some magnetic property of some sort. The bottom coin was shook out like you said.

Another thing to note, is the way he points at the coin before and after the trick... before the trick, his fingers were loose and free, showing you there isn't anything hidden between his fingers. But then after the trick, his fingers are all folder around his ring except for his index finger, which is pointing for you 'look what i did, look what i did'... and you don't see the change.