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The French military actually did something

30 year old reconnisance & ground attack plane.

Great opponent to mark up a kill on /sarcasm
 
Malfeas said:
The French military does stuff all the time, they just don't advertise it like Americans.
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This!

A typical soldier in the Foreign Legion could probably kill any one of the above posters bare-handed with arm tied behind his back. They're some serious bad-asses.
 
ichy said:
This!

A typical soldier in the Foreign Legion could probably kill any one of the above posters bare-handed with arm tied behind his back. They're some serious bad-asses.
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Foreign legion was\is made up mostly of people who arent French.
 
The French have a rich military history, full of victories and defeats like any other nation.

Though, generally speaking if you get flanked and you have no other alternatives would you rather just surrender or watch your cities become battlefields and destroyed in the process only to gain nothing? Probably not.

Those whom make fun of the French for surrendering are morons.
 
ichy said:
A typical soldier in the Foreign Legion could probably kill any one of the above posters bare-handed with arm tied behind his back. They're some serious bad-asses.
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Thats because most of them are not French, and people with some kind of criminal record.
 
Tab said:
The French have a rich military history, full of victories and defeats like any other nation.

Though, generally speaking if you get flanked and you have no other alternatives would you rather just surrender or watch your cities become battlefields and destroyed in the process only to gain nothing? Probably not.

Those whom make fun of the French for surrendering are morons.
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How about after WW2? They lost to Vietnam and Algeria. Those weren't even countries at the time.

Probably what gotten to Allied forces during WW2 was how cooperative Vichy France was with the Germans. The British were forced to sink much of the French Navy since they wouldn't come over and fight the Germans.
 
...apparently, they didn't actually "Shoot Down" anything:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/world/africa/25libya.html?_r=1&hp

A French Rafale fighter jet fired on the Libyan warplane, “which was operating in violation of resolution 1973,” above the embattled city of Misurata, the French Defense Ministry said in a statement. A coalition AWACS aircraft had detected the presence of the Libyan aircraft in the skies above the city, and it was hit with a missile from the French warplane shortly after landing at a nearby military airbase, the Defense Ministry said.
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...it was on the ground already 😛
 
BladeVenom said:
Fixed that for you. 🙂

Here's the list for anyone who hasn't seen it, or want to read it again.
The Complete Military History of France
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Yea, and they won and lost plenty of battles?


JTsyo said:
How about after WW2? They lost to Vietnam and Algeria. Those weren't even countries at the time.

Probably what gotten to Allied forces during WW2 was how cooperative Vichy France was with the Germans. The British were forced to sink much of the French Navy since they wouldn't come over and fight the Germans.
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Two conflicts out of how many?
 
JTsyo said:
How about after WW2? They lost to Vietnam and Algeria. Those weren't even countries at the time.
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The US didn't do so hot in Vietnam either...


JTsyo said:
The British were forced to sink much of the French Navy since they wouldn't come over and fight the Germans.
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*Sigh*

The attack on Mers-el-Kebir is much more complicated than you make it out to be. The French Navy certainly didn't want to fight for the Germans, I'd suggest reading up on what their ships in Alexandria did after the fall of France or about the scuttling of their ships at Toulon in 1943.

Mers-el-Kebir was as much about politics as anything, the British wanted to prove to the Americans that they would do whatever it took, and demonstrated a willingness to "shoot the hostage" so to speak. That kind of determination was part of the reason we later gave them 50 old destroyers, prior to the attack on MeK there was a very serious concern that we'd be giving them ships that could end up in German hands. The attack on the French fleet was very tough decision to make, and a lot of senior officers in the Royal Navy were horrified by it. Those were desperate times though.
 
Tab said:
Those whom make fun of the French for surrendering are morons.
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Especially after the extraordinary suffering and sacrifices of French soldiers in WW1. It's quite moving how even the smallest village in France has a monument to their war dead and the list is always horrifyingly long. The effect that the Great War had on France can't be overstated.
 
JSt0rm said:
Your sad the pilot isnt dead?
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For all I know the pilot IS dead. I'm sad because my idea of France taking the lead isn't shooting planes after they have landed.

You know the mission thingy is generally accomplished between take-off and landing, right? We're supposedly there to save civilians, not avenge them once the other side's planes can't shoot back.
 
this doesn't surprise me.
These years france has come across and behaved like the opposite of the american stereotype of france, caused by a distorted knowledge of history.
 
Scotteq said:
...apparently, they didn't actually "Shoot Down" anything:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/world/africa/25libya.html?_r=1&hp





...it was on the ground already 😛
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While hilarious at first sight, I believe this is actually air war doctrine in a number of militaries - that is, to make use of the known delta of your fuel capacity versus your opponent's. I believe the U.S. shot down a large number of MiGs in Vietnam by simply prolonging the dogfight to the point where the MiG had to turn and head home due to low fuel, only to be blasted out of the air.
 
werepossum said:
For all I know the pilot IS dead. I'm sad because my idea of France taking the lead isn't shooting planes after they have landed.

You know the mission thingy is generally accomplished between take-off and landing, right? We're supposedly there to save civilians, not avenge them once the other side's planes can't shoot back.
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How do you know the plane didnt land because the french planes were in the area? Oh you dont. And the french went in first so they did take the lead. But you know the republicans will do well if this thing turns into a shit sandwich. I'm sure if you prey for power enough your god will hear you and make it into shit.
 
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