The fate of Bill Gate's very first Operating System.

[drag]

OK get this:


Bill Gates thought that Unix was the future during the early 80's. So him and Paul put the money made from basic and fortran and made ther very first operating system. DOS!... nope scratch that it was Xenix, they brokered a deal with AT&T and got some of the rights to Unix and came out and came out with there own version of System V called Xenix, which became a very wide spread operating system in it's time (first released in 1980).


Then IBM said to Bill, ?hey, Bill, we need a OS for this new 8086 architecture, it's kinda a P.O.S. and we both know that the microcomputers is not going to stick around very long so we don't want to put a whole lot of money in it, but we think it will sell for now. You want a crack at it??


And Bill was like: ?hey I'll port Unix to it, I'll sell Xenix!, You know Unix is going to be the next major operating system for the average person!?


IBM said, ?.. um nope we don't want to get caught up with that AT&T scene, we aren't hip to that.?


And Bill was like,? yah, you da boss. OK dude how about that QDOS thing??


And IBM said sure you can have that, So Bill bought it, ripped off CM/P and came out with DOS.


The thing was that thru most of the eighties Bill was all about Unix, he thought it was keen gear. But when IBM started waking up to the fact that microcomputers were sticking around (and the rest of Unix-based companies were busy shoving their heads up their butts) they realised that people actually enjopyed using MACs for some strange reason (duh... I don't know, I think it was the whole oscor the grouch in the trash and it quaked when you f-d up). So they needed a nice GUI interface...


IBM again Gates and was like ?Man, we are going to come out with OS/2, can you dig??


And Bill was like, ?Hell ya man I dig, but check this out: I'll support you really well, we'll say OS/2 is going to da-bomb, because like 0S/2 is going to be realy neat, but you need to get it working really well, so go ahead and take your time, If you have any bugs they won't forgive you. Hey, just for you guys I'll take my word proscessor Windows 1/2 that crapped out and make this little thing called Windows 3.00, that'll tide them over till they all get tired of DOS and start buying OS/2, ok?? (That way they won't do something stupid and buy those overpriced MACS...), ?Meanwhile we have a nice little project called NT that we are making for those wacky mips ACE computers?


And IBM said ?That's OK with us, sounds get, bet.. hehe.. btw we got the new thing called the Microchannel bus archeticture that will outclass that old ISA crap and get rid of all those IBM "compatables" upstarts forever. hahaHaHA!!! IBM RULES!!!?


So Bill's attention turned from Xenix and it was eventually sold to SCO in 95 after Bill was finished screwing around with it as per the fate of most of Unix. SCO (now SCO group with the adittion of caldera) has intigrated it into it's own Unix OS which in turn they are currently trying integrated with, Linux. So some of Bill Gates original code may in some freakish way make it's way into some backwoods part of the Linux operating System.. kinda ironic, heh? (in another twist of fate SCO is suing IBM for "devalueing" it's Unix for giving Linux some of the Unix technology they got from SCO inorder to make AIX. BTW SCO Unix is a direct decedent of the original AT&T System V v4.0, Xenix, SunOS, and 4.3BSD Unices)


The thing I find realy funny is that while all of us were having fun plodding around with DOS and our 386's and 486's, MS itself was pratically DOS free, they were Xenix all the way. MS didn't realy start using Dos until windows 3.11. And guess what else? All of the Dos products, you know Word, Windows 3.11, Wos 2 thru 6 etc, etc. was all written using the vi text editor!


I find history so amusing. Hey, maybe the young version of Bill Gates was right about Unix after all? Maybe Unix will dominate he mainstream. Which aught to more than make up for the whole "640K ought to be enough for anybody." thing in my book.


For more history:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/24504.html

http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/timeline.html

http://www.google.com

 

[tranceport]

entertaining at the least.

In all honesty though. We will never need more than 3ghz procs..

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: tranceport
entertaining at the least.

In all honesty though. We will never need more than 3ghz procs..

I hope you're joking. Anyway, lots of scientific applications need tons of power. If not in more GHz per processor, then more processors.

And drag, you are quite a talker (er, should that be, a fast typer? ). Nice history writeup, anyway.

Perhaps someday Linux will gain more applications that are more compatible with the current mainstream applications (read: MS Word filters for KWord, etc.), so it will be more usable for the "average person." IMHO, hardware support in Linux is almost there (well, some things, like Nforce2 boards, aren't supported yet, but they're very new, so that can be excused), and desktop environments (especially KDE) are making great improvements in usability, configurability, and speed (the latter is somewhat amazing, considering the extensible and pretty good but nevertheless slow by nature X Window System that it runs on). Heck, my parents can use KDE easily enough. And if they can use it, most "average people" could, too.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: tranceport
entertaining at the least.

In all honesty though. We will never need more than 3ghz procs..

Yep, it is entertaining, but whatdya mean by we'll never need more than 3gz :Q.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: wizardLRU

Originally posted by: tranceport
entertaining at the least.

In all honesty though. We will never need more than 3ghz procs..

Yep, it is entertaining, but whatdya mean by we'll never need more than 3gz :Q.

Read some history on computers.
They always say "we'll never need more than blah blah"

 

[Pauli]

And IBM said sure you can have that, So Bill bought it, ripped off CM/P and came out with DOS.

Nitpicking here, but it was called CP/M, not CM/P.

 

[StraightPipe]

so long ass computers get more and more bloat we will need more and more Ghz. My 2.4 screams, but if i run UT2003 at full detail it still is a little bumpy, more speen on the CPU and GPU will always be apreciated.

Sony's play station 3 is supposed to be 4 Ghz (in 2005), and i'll garentee that the'll find more than one way to max it out!

 

[drag]

Doh.. I knew that cp/m thingi... butt,dontcha know, me spellen' aint' qute it'a used to be!

 

[drag]

Ya we need to upgrade all the time, it's just the way the story goes, but look at it this way.

With linux we gained all the power and usefullness of those old pdp-11's and those ibm s/370 mainframes x 5 in our basements at a couple grand at most!!

and with WindowsXP you get a fairly stable version of windows 3.11 with all the bells and whistles of Netscape 4.x on win95 and with decent networking support and a command line interface that won't make you want to kill yourself! Plus all the cartoony icons, menus, and painfull wizard sessions you could ever want!! all this is damn worth it in a OS that can bog down a 700mhz computer with 64 megs of RAM!!! f-ing-a! MICROSOFT RULES!!!!

 

[earthman]

Funny story, too bad you don't have your facts straight.

 

[drag]

Well you care to educate me? little man...

edit: I am thinking that a person who announces "you are wrong" without explaining himself, is probably not all "there" in the attic, if ya get my drift... and probably not worth the effort of this post

 

[spyordie007]

You are wrong.




















I'm not sure about what just yet but you are definetly wrong

-Spy

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: earthman
Funny story, too bad you don't have your facts straight.

STFU

 

[Bacinator]

Originally posted by: tranceport
entertaining at the least.

In all honesty though. We will never need more than 3ghz procs..

Wow!!! 486!!! It's so super!!! But I can't run my 386 games, without chopping the 66mhz speed in half with the counter-"turbo" button.
486 dx! wow... keen.... 486 dx2... umm... ok... isn't this getting old? Do we need this much power?
Pentium? What's that... Seems complicated... But I'll buy one for the hell of it.
Pentium 150mhz... Ooo... Ahhh... 200mhz... weee...
Pentium II... But... but... but... I'm not finished enjoying my pentium.
PIII Do I really need this?
PIIII Damn... gotta keep up with the jones's. I'll never need more than this superkeen hyperthreading 3.06ghz though... I rule my world.

 

[alkemyst]

we will never need more than 640K for the environment....

 

[Saltin]

It's funny how all you fellas laugh at the things Gate's said when you have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.

I'll tell you what else is funny, he's one of the world's richest men and you arent.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Saltin
It's funny how all you fellas laugh at the things Gate's said when you have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.

I'll tell you what else is funny, he's one of the world's richest men and you arent.

I don't worship him.

 

[Saltin]

Why would anyone?
Worshipping is one thing, acknowledging the man has a knack for business and computers is another.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Saltin
Why would anyone?
Worshipping is one thing, acknowledging the man has a knack for business and computers is another.

Gates said we'll never need more than 640k, and I think thats funny. Your point in the original post is? No one here is Gates bashing, but I also think most people here know about MS.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Saltin
It's funny how all you fellas laugh at the things Gate's said when you have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.

I'll tell you what else is funny, he's one of the world's richest men and you arent.

Wealth in dollars is pretty shallow, wealth in happiness is what matters. In that regard, you seem a bit poor, why so bitter?

 

[Saltin]

I didn't use the word wealth, I used rich.

In that regard, you seem a bit poor, why so bitter?

Why would you take a shot at me like that dude? Have I ever been anything but helpful to you?

My point is simply that everyone makes predictions that don't come true. Finding humor in them after the fact is ok I guess, but I can't help but feel that all most of are doing is making fun of the guy. I guess that's ok too, I doubt he's crying himself to sleep.

 

[Bacinator]

I cry myself to bed everynight...

no i dont.
I play counter-strike. There's no crying in counter-strike. Frag away stress and pitiful life-based woes, and go to sleep happy.

Almost as good as melatonin.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Saltin
I didn't use the word wealth, I used rich.

In that regard, you seem a bit poor, why so bitter?

Why would you take a shot at me like that dude? Have I ever been anything but helpful to you?

I wasn't trying to be a prick, my point was, it's not really funny that he's the richest guy around and we're not, because that doesn't matter, and there is no point in dwelling on it. It sounded like a pretty mean-spirited comment to me.

My point is simply that everyone makes predictions that don't come true. Finding humor in them after the fact is ok I guess, but I can't help but feel that all most of are doing is making fun of the guy. I guess that's ok too, I doubt he's crying himself to sleep.

Of course he's not, and that's why it's okay to make fun of him. If the guy was depressed and on the virge of suicide because of people making fun of him, perhaps we would be a little more sensitive, but he's not, he's disgustingly rich and arrogant, and is in a completely different state of reality from anyone here.

 

[drag]

I realy don't give much of a care about Bill Gates, And even back then everyone that had a half a brain knew that computers were just going to get better and better. The reason it's funny is the irony, it just goes to show that Bill Gates realy wasn't ever that good at making good technological decisions. The reality is that he just surrounded himself with people that were realy good thinkers about computers but to nieve to realise what he was and when they had a good idea he just ripped them off.

Sure he was a smart business man, but it was just one of those coincedences of time, that he happened to be the right person at the right time to take advantage of the situation. If he came along any later he wouldn't be nearly as rich or powerfull as he is now. He'd probably be climbing the corporate ladder of some ISP, right now eventually becoming CEO and making it company policy to give crappy tech support, just like all his competitors. Bill Gate's as a person is pretty much a bad joke, but that's what it takes to be the type of person he is, so be it.

 

[LikeLinus]

<<perhaps we would be a little more sensitive, but he's not, he's disgustingly rich and arrogant, and is in a completely different state of reality from anyone here. >>

Please back this up. I'd like to know what your "sources" are and how you know so much about the man. You know NOTHING but what the media has spoon fed you.

Haters are nothing more than jealous people. Ignore then. They can throw around words about someone they don't even know and hate on them for no real reason.