<< won't try any more flamebaiting and trolling and might gain some credibilty along the way...try it otherwise you'll just be proving my point >>
I knew they would prove my point laugh it up children the above links just proved me correct you can get 2500 hp out of a hemi bunch of childish TROLLS AND FLAMEBAITERS
thanks for the great link PG
Supersix
<< THE THREAD THAT WON'T DIE!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! My thread kicked your thread's ass. >>
hey I'm trying my best...
hehehe
<< THE THREAD THAT WON'T DIE!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! My thread kicked your thread's ass. >>
hey I'm trying my best...
hehehe
dafatha00 whats wrong????? got nothing to say bout these????
2500 hp hemi
another 2500 hp hemi
hey look a 3000 hp hemi
where's your MOUTH now????
2500 hp hemi
another 2500 hp hemi
hey look a 3000 hp hemi
where's your MOUTH now????
DIE YOU FSCCKING THREAD DIEEEEEEEEEEE
*pulls out a deagle and starts shooting in the general direction of hte thread*
*pulls out a deagle and starts shooting in the general direction of hte thread*
I never denied any of that, if you look closely at my posts, which I doubt that you have.
What I'm still thinking about is the fact that you claim that you're 41 years old. I still can't believe that an old man would spend his time cussing at a younger generation and calling them names...
You better be telling the truth or a damn good liar.
Have fun with that on your head.
What I'm still thinking about is the fact that you claim that you're 41 years old. I still can't believe that an old man would spend his time cussing at a younger generation and calling them names...
You better be telling the truth or a damn good liar.
Have fun with that on your head.
hey FLAMEBAITER if you look closely at the thread you and your little buttbuddies started the namecalling I just responded in kind and as for denying any of it...bullsh!t you made it look as if there was NO WAY you could pull 3000 hp out of a hemi so put that in your crack pipe and smoke it
owfatbaconboy you don't make enough to own desert eagle...I have one amoungst several "rifles" that a young @#%* like you would drool over
Right...and if you look closely at my last 6 or 7 posts, you'll find that I stopped resorting to such juvenile behavior, which you obviously seem persistent on continuing.
Congrats on being as old as my dad and still acting like a kid.
Congrats on being as old as my dad and still acting like a kid.
<< Right...and if you look closely at my last 6 or 7 posts, you'll find that I stopped resorting to such juvenile behavior, which you obviously seem persistent on continuing. >>
so you resorted to making fun of me and my posts...not much of a difference there... try again... maybe with a little more effort you can dig that HOLE all the way to china...maybe they will believe your BULLSH!T there
For someone who likes to talk so much about "stock" stuff... your links show some of the most modified engines I have ever seen... STOCK means same displacement, no nitrous, and no upgrade to every engine part...
Below are cut/paste from your links:
<< of course this car also sports a Nitros System >>
<< The supercharged 500-cubic-inch, 2500-hp nitro-burning engines, made from modified 426 Hemis >>
<< Keith Black Block Stage 8
L.A. Crank
Brooks Rods
Venolia Pistons
C&A ZGS/Dura Moly Rings
King Bearings
5 Stage Dry Sump
Stef's Oil Pan
Hekimian Roller Valve Train
Veney Billet Heads
2.50"/2.00" Titanium
Valves & Springs
Custom Billet Roller
Rockers
Custom Pushrods
Copper Head Gaskets
Gear Drive
Waterman Pumps
Veney Late Intake
Wipple Screw Blower
MSD MAGS >>
<< dafatha00 whats wrong????? got nothing to say bout these????
2500 hp hemi
another 2500 hp hemi
hey look a 3000 hp hemi
where's your MOUTH now???? >>
Below are cut/paste from your links:
<< of course this car also sports a Nitros System >>
<< The supercharged 500-cubic-inch, 2500-hp nitro-burning engines, made from modified 426 Hemis >>
<< Keith Black Block Stage 8
L.A. Crank
Brooks Rods
Venolia Pistons
C&A ZGS/Dura Moly Rings
King Bearings
5 Stage Dry Sump
Stef's Oil Pan
Hekimian Roller Valve Train
Veney Billet Heads
2.50"/2.00" Titanium
Valves & Springs
Custom Billet Roller
Rockers
Custom Pushrods
Copper Head Gaskets
Gear Drive
Waterman Pumps
Veney Late Intake
Wipple Screw Blower
MSD MAGS >>
<< dafatha00 whats wrong????? got nothing to say bout these????
2500 hp hemi
another 2500 hp hemi
hey look a 3000 hp hemi
where's your MOUTH now???? >>
For someone who likes to talk so much about "stock" stuff... your links show some of the most modified engines I have ever seen... like i said - Skyline's RB26DETT will hold 1000 on STOCK INTERNALS... that means same displacement, no nitrous, and no upgrade to every engine part...
I have to respectfully disagree with that statement, but that is a very impressive engine. In terms of power to weight ratio, it's incredible.
Here is something I just found: (I left out a lot of the article because it was so long.)
http://www.autospeed.com/A_0042/page1.html Firing up a Godzilla engine to the tune of 705hp!
The first step in making a mega-hp RB26 was to fatten its swept capacity to around 3 litres - a relatively common exercise in Japan. This high torque approach was taken to reduce the revs needed to develop the power - Terry says if they were to rev the standard 2.6 engine to around 9500rpm, bearings and assorted engine internals would be liable to break. To achieve the torque figures needed, a larger capacity RB30 3 litre bottom-end was prepared. Because it uses smaller head studs than the RB26, the block had to be drilled and re-tapped to take this DOHC head. A custom timing belt also had to be fitted.
The RB30 block wasn't designed to suit the GT-R's 4WD chassis and so the original GT-R sump needed to be bolted under the engine using a 10mm girdle, which also supports the main bearings. An external oil pick-up is used as part of this custom fabrication.
For total reliability, Argo bolts and chrome-moly rods were fitted to the standard RB30 crankshaft, while ACL bearings were used throughout the bottom-end. Atop of these, APEP forged flat top pistons and gapless rings slide in the 15 thou over-bored block. The compression ratio of 7.5:1 gives a good compromise between driveability and outright power. In anticipation of over 20psi boost, a Japanese-sourced 1.2mm stainless steel head gasket was used.
The alloy twin-cam RB26DETT head received a mild port and polish job that was performed in-house. Terry says the standard head flows quite well - but that things can always be improved!
Wanting to have few limitations to using high revs if they were actually required, stronger valve springs were inserted to prevent the valves moving up and down when they weren't supposed to. Both the intake and exhaust valves are standard. Terry commented that this type of DOHC engine is sensitive to cams and timing, and he fitted AVO's own vernier cam sprockets to the custom 25/65 cams, which have mostly secret specs.
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Once the assembled engine was ready and raring to go, Terry bolted it to the dyno and thoroughly mapped the ECU's fuel and ignition curves. Next came the power runs. At the first attempt, the engine developed (only!) 620hp at 21psi boost. Terry decided that some more fine-tuning was required and went to work on the turbo system and cam timing. Suspecting excessive exhaust back-pressure and compressor surge, he replaced the 350hp turbos with higher flowing 400hp versions and then retarded the exhaust cam timing a few degrees.
Then the dyno needle really started to swing. With around 25 psi boost the engine thumped out 705hp at 7300rpm - and could still produce 614hp at the same revs with the more conservative boost pressure of 21psi! As we mentioned, the shape of the torque curve is nearly standard, which would make this one absolutely butt-whipping road car! And the twenty-five grand expenditure? It's well spent!
Yes, that's a very impressive engine, but they did modify quite a few things and spend a lot of money in the process.
I have to respectfully disagree with that statement, but that is a very impressive engine. In terms of power to weight ratio, it's incredible.
Here is something I just found: (I left out a lot of the article because it was so long.)
http://www.autospeed.com/A_0042/page1.html Firing up a Godzilla engine to the tune of 705hp!
The first step in making a mega-hp RB26 was to fatten its swept capacity to around 3 litres - a relatively common exercise in Japan. This high torque approach was taken to reduce the revs needed to develop the power - Terry says if they were to rev the standard 2.6 engine to around 9500rpm, bearings and assorted engine internals would be liable to break. To achieve the torque figures needed, a larger capacity RB30 3 litre bottom-end was prepared. Because it uses smaller head studs than the RB26, the block had to be drilled and re-tapped to take this DOHC head. A custom timing belt also had to be fitted.
The RB30 block wasn't designed to suit the GT-R's 4WD chassis and so the original GT-R sump needed to be bolted under the engine using a 10mm girdle, which also supports the main bearings. An external oil pick-up is used as part of this custom fabrication.
For total reliability, Argo bolts and chrome-moly rods were fitted to the standard RB30 crankshaft, while ACL bearings were used throughout the bottom-end. Atop of these, APEP forged flat top pistons and gapless rings slide in the 15 thou over-bored block. The compression ratio of 7.5:1 gives a good compromise between driveability and outright power. In anticipation of over 20psi boost, a Japanese-sourced 1.2mm stainless steel head gasket was used.
The alloy twin-cam RB26DETT head received a mild port and polish job that was performed in-house. Terry says the standard head flows quite well - but that things can always be improved!
Wanting to have few limitations to using high revs if they were actually required, stronger valve springs were inserted to prevent the valves moving up and down when they weren't supposed to. Both the intake and exhaust valves are standard. Terry commented that this type of DOHC engine is sensitive to cams and timing, and he fitted AVO's own vernier cam sprockets to the custom 25/65 cams, which have mostly secret specs.
.
.
Once the assembled engine was ready and raring to go, Terry bolted it to the dyno and thoroughly mapped the ECU's fuel and ignition curves. Next came the power runs. At the first attempt, the engine developed (only!) 620hp at 21psi boost. Terry decided that some more fine-tuning was required and went to work on the turbo system and cam timing. Suspecting excessive exhaust back-pressure and compressor surge, he replaced the 350hp turbos with higher flowing 400hp versions and then retarded the exhaust cam timing a few degrees.
Then the dyno needle really started to swing. With around 25 psi boost the engine thumped out 705hp at 7300rpm - and could still produce 614hp at the same revs with the more conservative boost pressure of 21psi! As we mentioned, the shape of the torque curve is nearly standard, which would make this one absolutely butt-whipping road car! And the twenty-five grand expenditure? It's well spent!
Yes, that's a very impressive engine, but they did modify quite a few things and spend a lot of money in the process.
thanks PG good info, i just realized that after doing some research and edited the message beforehand... i don't think anyone would want to risk that much $$$ finding out the limit on the stock internal engine...
This is an honest question... seriously..
My friend started racing his 93(?) Talon recently and he had to do a lot of stuff to it to race. My uncle had a 69 Camaro Convertible pace car (I think?) that was 800hp and ran a 9.9 1/4 (I have the pictures to prove that one and could probably get scans of the official sheet. My thing is... Does anyone go buy a stock car off the lot and race it? Seriously, because I don't race. Hell, I have a cougar.. I would get killed anywhere. I figure that most (most being 90%) of racers do something to their car. Fair or unfair, if you drive up to the line, you are giving up your right to b!tch because you chose to race-- whether the other guy has a friggin rocket engine or a peddle driven bike... you win you win, you lose- you lose. Muscle car or TT supra... Drive up to the line and you get smoked? concede or don't drive up to the line again till you know you can win.
Just my .02
Flame if you want.. I'm all ears.. but if you guys b!tch this much after a losing race, I would never go near any of you...
-the Yos
My friend started racing his 93(?) Talon recently and he had to do a lot of stuff to it to race. My uncle had a 69 Camaro Convertible pace car (I think?) that was 800hp and ran a 9.9 1/4 (I have the pictures to prove that one and could probably get scans of the official sheet. My thing is... Does anyone go buy a stock car off the lot and race it? Seriously, because I don't race. Hell, I have a cougar.. I would get killed anywhere. I figure that most (most being 90%) of racers do something to their car. Fair or unfair, if you drive up to the line, you are giving up your right to b!tch because you chose to race-- whether the other guy has a friggin rocket engine or a peddle driven bike... you win you win, you lose- you lose. Muscle car or TT supra... Drive up to the line and you get smoked? concede or don't drive up to the line again till you know you can win.
Just my .02
Flame if you want.. I'm all ears.. but if you guys b!tch this much after a losing race, I would never go near any of you...
-the Yos
Lots of ppl buy stock cars and race them on the street.... they may have a lot going against them but they do it.... many cars are decently fast stock for stoplight races, if you're talking about dragstrip then hell no, unless they have a Viper or something....
Typical cars that fall in this category:
V8 F-bodies and Mustangs, Supra, 300zx, RX-7, NSX, 3000GT, S4, Vipers, Porsches, some Bimmers, etc... all can run 14s and lower, which isn't bad for bone stock and street tires...
Typical cars that kids try to race stock but aren't fast:
Civics (especially SI), Integras (except Type R), V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, non-turbo eclipses
Typical cars that fall in this category:
V8 F-bodies and Mustangs, Supra, 300zx, RX-7, NSX, 3000GT, S4, Vipers, Porsches, some Bimmers, etc... all can run 14s and lower, which isn't bad for bone stock and street tires...
Typical cars that kids try to race stock but aren't fast:
Civics (especially SI), Integras (except Type R), V6 F-bodies and Mustangs, non-turbo eclipses
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I agree with Radeon
<<Bang for buck, yeah, a older mid to late 60s or 70s muscle car will outrun 99% of whats around on the road. However, I'd love to see that Charger on a road course >>
My brother has a '66 Pontiac GTO that came stock with Ram-Air and 3-Dueces(3 two barrel carberators). This thing can blow anything away in a drag race. But, you'd never get me into a road race with that thing because it can't maneuver worth a darn. Not only that but it came with 4 drum breaks. When you tried to stop the car after doing a high rate of speed, you couldn't! The drums would get so hot that the break pads would stop working alltogether.
<<Bang for buck, yeah, a older mid to late 60s or 70s muscle car will outrun 99% of whats around on the road. However, I'd love to see that Charger on a road course >>
My brother has a '66 Pontiac GTO that came stock with Ram-Air and 3-Dueces(3 two barrel carberators). This thing can blow anything away in a drag race. But, you'd never get me into a road race with that thing because it can't maneuver worth a darn. Not only that but it came with 4 drum breaks. When you tried to stop the car after doing a high rate of speed, you couldn't! The drums would get so hot that the break pads would stop working alltogether.
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<< like i said - Skyline's RB26DETT will hold 1000 on STOCK INTERNALS... that means same displacement, no nitrous, and no upgrade to every engine part... >>
Actually - STOCK INTERNALS means just that, stock internals. This includes, crank, connecting rods, pistons, etc. To get 1000HP out of a Nissan 3.0 takes a lot of reinforcement, since all of the power is coming from a turbo. I think it'd be tough running 1000+ HP on stock internals if you ask me. Unless you have some other proof of this engine putting out 333HP/Litre on STOCK internals...
Oh C'mon Genocide, you could do that on cast pistons, stock rods and what good is a forged crank anyhow
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<< Oh C'mon Genocide, you could do that on cast pistons, stock rods and what good is a forged crank anyhow
>>I was just saying that 1000HP on stock internals from a Nissan 3.0 would be pretty tough. I don't know how much of a difference there is in an Inline 6 (long crank...), so I don't know if a stock crank can handle that much, but I'm not even remotely sure.
Oh yea I know what your sayin.. I'm just wondering myself if the stock crank is forged, it would seem to me to need to be for those #'s
um whoever said that a car couldn't pull a wheelie is wrong
ive had several of my muscle car friends tell me it can be done if someone gets like 700lbs of torque and a new tranny it can be done
hell my friends 200hp firebird got a tiny tiny bit of air off the front when he popped the clutch while revving it really high
ive had several of my muscle car friends tell me it can be done if someone gets like 700lbs of torque and a new tranny it can be done
hell my friends 200hp firebird got a tiny tiny bit of air off the front when he popped the clutch while revving it really high
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