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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

First and foremost, what in the world are you doing with that case and PSU. Yikes. Save the money by getting the 3800+ and OCing. Then spend the left over money (plus a couple bucks more) and get the P180 with the TPII PSU. Infinitely better than the 2 you have now.

Get a big 200gig or so drive. Then in the future if you run out of space, then get another 200gig and stripe it. Dont just start at RAID for some file installations that may be large.

-Kevin
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Dropping down to a 3800+ only saves me $90... that lets me afford a 480W TPII or 80% of that case you mentioned. 🙂 There are a few things I have to go cheapo on in order to actually have the funds to purchase all of this... Can't be the RAM, Motherboard or Video Card... The hard drive is $56 (not too worried about storage... most of it is maintained server side). So, the only places to cut are the CPU, case and PSU.

If you have other suggestions I'm definitely listening. 🙂
 
As for the X2 3800+ vs the 4000+: The 4000+ will out perform the 3800+ by a wide margin on any single threaded App.
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Oh... since when.

I can't remember much about the P80 Spinpoint drives but I don't remember them being spectacular - neither fast access or high transfers just very quiet. The newer larger capacity ones however sport very high trasnfers for 7200 but not very fast access times which matter.
Seagate 7200.7 I'd recommend again.
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The Samsung drives are SLIGHTLY slower than the Seagates, but they are much quieter. This one is a better bang for your buck than my personal favorite the Seagates. Either one you get you will be fine, the Samsungs are just a little better deal.

Again, look at Anands benchmarks on RAID-0!

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Well if you disable onboard sound and are fine with no sound then, yes there is no performance hit 😛

You SHOULD be fine with onboard sound. Of course it is a lot more taxing, and it will drop your framerate in games. You really shouldn't have to worry about this too much with your system. If you begin to notice it, then save up a couple bucks and buy a Creative card (really the only option for gaming :-\ )

-Kevin
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I've got a PCI SB Live! I've been using for a while, so I figure there's nothing wrong with recycling a little bit of hardware (as I'm doing with my DVD Burner), so... it's not too big of an issue... It's an original SB Live! (not the 'Value' just the original Live!), so if there was something that was more current onboard (like the MSI board), I was going to use it.
 
Refurbished boards are a real gamble. And MSI on top of that? 😛

Intel? Get yourself an ASUS P5WD2 with a Pentium D 830. ~510-520
AMD? Get yourself an ASUS A8N-SLI with an X2 3800+. ~540-550

Those are Newegg prices. You could shop around and knock up to $50 off elsewhere, your choice.

Either configuration will be blazing fast. The choice is yours...

 
Not by much. The only thing of any significance is that DIII runs at 230fps as opposed to 200 :roll:

Pabster are you thinking of the old capacitor issues with the MSI boards a couple years ago. I was hesitant at first but they seem to be fixed.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Pabster are you thinking of the old capacitor issues with the MSI boards a couple years ago. I was hesitant at first but they seem to be fixed.
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In fairness, those capacitor issues weren't fixated solely to MSI, they affected several other vendors as well.

I've just never been a big MSI fan. My biggest gripe is probably their BIOS ... or maybe the layout of certain boards.

 
So he does a measily 200MHz overclock and he is running at 3700 performance (probably better) then if he is really worried he could push it up 200 more MHZ and be at the 4000+. Neither of those should be to hard to hit. But for all we know his apps or the way he is using his machine he could have an added value from a Dual core setup. Unlike you I think almost anybody but FPS whores who disable the Print Spool from starting up with the computer will get an added value from Dual core machines. Not only that but as software starts to use the dual cores the X2s being purchased right now will age like whine while those purchasing or overclock to FX levels will be left out and forced to upgrade because programs could become upwards of twice as demanding.
 
Give Microsoft a dual core and watch them bring it to its knees 😛

Quite honestly if you are debating single core performance, the Venice 3000+ is by far the best value right now (strictly from a P/P ratio standpoint.)

I do agree that if you are building a new machine right now, you'd be pretty foolish to invest in the high-end single cores (4000+ or FX series) when the X2's are in a similiar price range.
 
So, just to clarify... anything that's Socket 939 should be able to run X2's? Looking on newegg, the DFI boards list compatability with FX/64/Sempron... don't know if that's because they might've been listed before the X2's came out or what.
 
Why get an sli board? Are you going to get a second video card in the future? Well if you are it would be ok, but if you aren't, you don't need an sli board. And just for clarification, you need the exact same model video card to use sli.

EDIT: not meaning two 6800 GTs, meaning two EVGA 6800 GT and both have the same model number.
 
Originally posted by: monster64
Why get an sli board? Are you going to get a second video card in the future? Well if you are it would be ok, but if you aren't, you don't need an sli board. And just for clarification, you need the exact same model video card to use sli.

EDIT: not meaning two 6800 GTs, meaning two EVGA 6800 GT and both have the same model number.
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Not right away.. perhaps in the future, though... I was originally looking at the ABIT AN8-ULTRA Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127212 because it's on sale today at newegg... It's $119 and seems to have everything I need.
 
Abit boards used to be good but they aren't right now. Check out anands review on the AN8.

Monster64: FALSE. You used to need the same card with the same BIOS, however, now the new drivers allow the same graphics chipset (ie 6800GT 6800GT).

-Kevin
 
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