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The end of customer service

Inspired by this article.

When I go to a grocery store, I specifically look for the self-checkout. Sometimes, I actually go out of my way to visit a grocery store that has the self-checkout machines. It's not because I want to privacy that the machine offers. It's more of a convenience to me to do it all myself and not rely on some potentially incompetent cashier. I actually find that I checkout much faster when I "do it myself", rather than letting a cashier check me out.

I actually wish more places would move forward with the self-checkout intiative. I'm not sure if I can think of a retail business where a self-checkout would not be feasible. Sure, it means less jobs for people, but why pay a human to do something that a machine can do in possibly less time. The article mentions that the machines recover their costs in about six months.

And with regards to true customer service, and the lack of it that these machines offer, I actually have a much more pleasant shopping experience with these machines than I do with most cashier human intereaction. I dont remember the last time I received good customer service. Now I understand that the retail industry does not pay well, and you can't expect to find a motivated employee who earns just $8 an hour. But any employee, regardless of hourly rate should know the difference between acceptable service and bad service. I actually expect more businesses to start using the self-checkout machines more.

I think many retail jobs will not exist in the near future. I believe that some banks have already started, however I havent seen any yet; my prediction is that bank tellers will not exist in 10 years. The job is really a systematic one, with each transaction involving very little difference.
 
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


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I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


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I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.

ermmm what?
 
Originally posted by: venkman
ATM Machines aren't very good at selling Financial Services that banks offer.

What financial services are you referring to? CD's, savings accounts? If your scope of financial services covers anything other than these instruments, then I don't think you'll find many knowledgeable tellers who can generate leads on those services.

 
The Wal-Mart on Fletcher and BBD in Tampa comes to mind as a shit fucking God awful implementation of self-checkout.
"HAY, WE HAS SLEF CHEKOUTS NOW, ONLY OPEN ONE REAL CHEKOUTS LANE. FOR THE LULZ"

Seriously. They keep one EXPRESS checkout lane open, with a line that goes all the way back to the end of like the candy aisle, and then they always have 3 out of 4 (I don't know why they never turn on the fucking fourth one) self-checkout lanes open. Everybody over there is somehow buying $400 worth of lard and microwaveable dinners, so a college kid's trip over there to buy even a few groceries ends up taking an hour.

I now drive an extra 5-10 miles to either the New Tampa or Brandon Supercenters. No self-checkout, many many real lanes open.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Ns1
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


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I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.

ermmm what?

Must be Cashier speak
 
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: venkman
ATM Machines aren't very good at selling Financial Services that banks offer.

What financial services are you referring to? CD's, savings accounts? If your scope of financial services covers anything other than these instruments, then I don't think you'll find many knowledgeable tellers who can generate leads on those services.

CDs, Savings Accounts, Credit Cards (seriously, when is the last time you went to your bank and did NOT get pitched a Credit Card), Mortgages, Home Equity Lines of Credits, Small Business Loans, Investment Services, etc etc etc. They just have to bait the hook and get one of the sales people bankers over to take care of the issue.
 
Self checkout will end when people that don;t want to pay full price use them a lot.


The machine can't tell the diff. between a .99lb red apple and a 1.99lb fuji. It can;t tell that you ripped the price tag off a $1.99lb of ground beef and attached it to a $9.99lb steak.

The next move will be to find out how much things weigh so you can scan a cheap couple dollar item but bag a more costly item.


Yea I know a lot of places have people that watch, or are supposed too. But ever time the weight does not come up right they just tell the machine to ignore it and let it go.








 
It took me a while to figure out how it knows when I've put something in the bag yet, until I learned all of the surfaces are scales.
 
self checkout is fine for like 1-5 items but anything beyond that it gets insanely retarded

place item on their scale move it off and you can do like 3 items at a time

if you have a shopping cart full of groceries a cashier will get it done in 1/4th the time or faster

especially if you want to use a coupon or something
 
I'm one of "those people" who start bagging their own groceries if the cashier/assistant starts to fall behind in a normal checkout.

I started using self checkouts from the mentality "Why wait for someone else to do something which you can do perfectly well yourself?". I use them every chance I get.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Ns1
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


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I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.

ermmm what?

😀 I enjoyed it Ns1
 
Originally posted by: mchammer187
self checkout is fine for like 1-5 items but anything beyond that it gets insanely retarded

place item on their scale move it off and you can do like 3 items at a time

if you have a shopping cart full of groceries a cashier will get it done in 1/4th the time or fasts

especially if you want to use a coupon or something

Yes, but an average of 4 lanes per cashier, the line moves at 4x the normal rate which cancels out the earlier effect. 😛 Basically, the store saves money.
 
I used to avoid them when they first came around here because if you paid by credit card you still had to go up and sign the slip at the counter where they are supervising. Now at my grocery store they have updated them to swipe and sign right there at the terminal, they take coupons there as well, and they have a small conveyor down to a small area where your groceries can sit until you are finished scanning to go down and bag them. Since I take the re-usable bags and generally can pack them fairly well, this works the best for me. I cannot think of the last time I went through the normal checkout at a grocery store.

I wouldnt go as far to say that it is always quicker but it seems like nobody ever wants to deal with those things so even if all of the regular lanes are full, the self-scan ones are usually open.
 
I didn't like the so much, it seemed like every time I used it there was 1 item that didn't compute correctly and I had to wait for a store clerk to clear the problem.

Then I eagle eyed their login and password, and I can correct the errors myself now, a much better shopping experience.
 
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Ns1
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


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-snip-

I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.

ermmm what?

Must be Cashier speak

Nope, it's accounting speak. He's listing out all the journal entries in debits & credits (utilizing a perpetual inventory system).

Edit: yeah, I use the self-checkout a lot. Shorter line, all the luddites, tech-fearing geezers and illiterates are in the regular checkout ailse

Fern
 
Home Depot and Lucky around here offer self-check out. The only problem is a majority of the users have no idea WTF they're doing and jammed up the line so bad you're better off waiting in lines w/ a live cashier.

I go to the bank teller if I wanna take out large bills or if I'm depositing bricks of 100s.
 
Sometimes the self-checkout is good, but I was buying paint with a friend at HD on the weekend and everytime we scanned a can of paint, the clerk had to come over and manually add an "eco-fee" of $0.50. I asked if she could just add it as a lump sum at the end, but no, she had to do it after each can, which made the transaction take about 5 times as long as it should have.

KT
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Ns1
While checking out, do think of each transaction as...


CR Sales
DR AR - KrunchyKrome
CR Inventory
-snip-

I do. And it frightens me.


What about the internal controls? If 1 out of every 100 transactions has an error, what type of impact will that have on the financial statements? Risk overstating sales? OH NOES.


Sorry, I'm really bored.

ermmm what?

Must be Cashier speak

Nope, it's accounting speak. He's listing out all the journal entries in debits & credits (utilizing a perpetual inventory system).

Fern

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lol

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Sometimes the self-checkout is good, but I was buying paint with a friend at HD on the weekend and everytime we scanned a can of paint, the clerk had to come over and manually add an "eco-fee" of $0.50. I asked if she could just add it as a lump sum at the end, but no, she had to do it after each can, which made the transaction take about 5 times as long as it should have.

KT

that's cuz home depot has the worst goddamn self checkout system ever designed. Whoever thought of that one should be shot. repeatedly.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Home Depot and Lucky around here offer self-check out. The only problem is a majority of the users have no idea WTF they're doing and jammed up the line so bad you're better off waiting in lines w/ a live cashier.

I go to the bank teller if I wanna take out large bills or if I'm depositing bricks of 100s.

Bingo. For this very reason they won't be able to get rid of a lot more cashiers than they already have.
 
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: venkman
ATM Machines aren't very good at selling Financial Services that banks offer.

What financial services are you referring to? CD's, savings accounts? If your scope of financial services covers anything other than these instruments, then I don't think you'll find many knowledgeable tellers who can generate leads on those services.

CDs, Savings Accounts, Credit Cards (seriously, when is the last time you went to your bank and did NOT get pitched a Credit Card), Mortgages, Home Equity Lines of Credits, Small Business Loans, Investment Services, etc etc etc. They just have to bait the hook and get one of the sales people bankers over to take care of the issue.

I have gone into the bank once in the last three years. And that was to file an afidavit, something a bank teller could not help me with. Why would someone go inside of the bank?
Routine transactions do not need a live teller. Non-routine transactions (applying for a loan, opening an account, withdrawing a large amount of cash); these transactions do require a live person, but it definetly does not support the need for 4-6 bank tellers working during the same shift.
 
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