The Dunning-Kruger Effect: The real problem with America

[LegendKiller]

Liberals must be really, really smart to figure out that the group of people unable to provide for their own health care, income, education, child care, etc. are actually the smart ones. Yup, no way THAT could be selfish stupidity, clearly the party that demands that "someone else" provide all things for them are so super intelligent that they've evolved beyond self-sufficiency and competency to focus on recognizing intelligence. Soon liberals will be so smart that they'll have to have people to change their diapers.

Run, Forrest. Run! You're a smart Gump!

Dumbass.

Let me ask you, why did you quote Obama in your sig?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

While I agree to some extent, I find it funny that you think it is just a "right" thing. There are just as many stupid "lefties".

Yeah, what was it that one lady said? "Obama gonna pay for my mortgage!" "Obama gonna pay for my gas!" or something like that.

The right certainly caters to a huge block of idiots, but let's look at the left. The left exploits class warfare and caters to the poor, uneducated masses who always seem to have issues providing for themselves and more importantly, the left stokes the emotions of people to exploit their naivete. See? Two can play the game of making generalizations.

And the most entertaining part is that we can all make these broad generalizations, we can all point fingers and call each other names in this forum, but none of it matters one damn bit. When the doors are closed in DC, the Democrats and Republicans have a beer and laugh at US.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

For fucks sake, the right has been on a suicide mission in the last 10 years to pick the most manipulatible, moronic, and extreme fucktards as possible to run the country.

Now I can definitely agree on that, 100%.

 

[bfdd]

Yeah, what was it that one lady said? "Obama gonna pay for my mortgage!" "Obama gonna pay for my gas!" or something like that.

Any way, the right certainly caters to a huge block of idiots, but let's look at the left. The left exploits class warfare and caters to the poor, uneducated masses who always seem to have issues providing for themselves and more importantly, the left stokes the emotions of people to exploit their naivete. See? Two can play the game of making generalizations.

And the most entertaining part is that we can all make these broad generalizations, we can all point fingers and call each other names in this forum, but none of it matters one damn bit. When the doors are closed in DC, the Democrats and Republicans have a beer and laugh at US.

Yeah no shit. To bad people are to fanatical about what colors they fly.

 

[JD50]

lolegendkiller

 

[LegendKiller]

lolegendkiller

Wow, what an adroit rebuttal.

 

[Ozoned]

For everything the capital markets are, it's really just faith that things tomorrow won't collapse. Remove that belief and you remove the entire system.
Ignoring that is actually the dunning kruger effect.

You have stumbled across (quite by accident) the reason that your left vs right political superiority argument (within the context of the dunnig kruger effect) has no merit.

The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. You are doing a fine job of it.

 

[LegendKiller]

You have stumbled across (quite by accident) the reason that your left vs right political superiority argument (within the context of the dunnig kruger effect) has no merit.

The easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. You are doing a fine job of it.

Why don't you explain a little bit more. How am I fooling myself?

The fact that I think the market works only on faith?

 

[Zebo]

For about 6000 years until about the 18th century government were made to serve interests of ruling elites. They kept people stupid and depended on then being stupid to maintain the social hierarchy, aka divine rights of kings, instead of democracy. Today the elite have a problem ideally the government exists to serve the interests of all of the people and they can't have that. So what better way than to glorify ignorance?

 

[nobodyknows]

This seems to be a very real problem. Too many on the right are too stupid to understand what their own intellectual shortfalls are. You see it on this forum every day. You see it in candidates such as Palin, O'Donnel, Angle...etc. You see these idiots shout from the rooftops without any logic, reason, or basis. They do it because they cannot understand they are stupid.

What's worse is that these are the people the stupid people are advocating.

We have fallen far as a population. Paine, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams...etc, may not have all been the best educated, but they were smart. They were intelligent. They had logic. Now we think that the dumber the person, the better. It started with Reagan and rolled through to GW.

Why the battle against intellectualism? Because the stupid people are too stupid to understand they are too stupid to understand.

http://www.demsfightinwords.com/wordpress/?p=2837

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you,
Yes I'm stuck in the middle with you,
Stuck in the middle with you.

Both sides have their leaders and their losers. Right now the right has become so corrupt that they are just hanging on and milking the system for everything they can get, f9r as long as they can and that is why they can't find anybody with integrity to lead them right now. It's just part of the cycle and it happens to both sides.

I happen to think that your average Joe Six-pack is a little better off with the left then they are with the right. but it has nothing to do with one side being more intellectual or anti-intellectual then the other.

 

[CycloWizard]

I appreciate that bamacre, we can disagree on nearly everything, but at least we can both see the horribly bad direction the right is going. They do have an awesome opportunity. If they showed me a great candidate, somebody that doesn't give two-fucks about wedge issues and really wants to right this ship, I'll leap for him/her. However, the fucking loonies they are forwarding are a travesty to intelligent government.

Hehe. Here is the problem with you: you at one point in this thread claim that the only thing that keeps the market moving is the faith of its participants that it will keep moving. Then, in this post, you state that we have or, at least, are trying to have, an intelligent government. Do you think your faith in government is any less than that of a libertarian's faith in the market? Do you think if people lost faith in government and decided not to follow laws anymore that the government would have any power over them? Do you really think government is, or ever can be, intelligent?

 

[ebaycj]

For fucks sake, the right has been on a suicide mission in the last 10 years to pick the most manipulatible, moronic, and extreme fucktards as possible to run the country.

Gotta keep those religious voters somehow.

 

[werepossum]

Let me ask you, why did you quote Obama in your sig?

Because no one should ever forget what he means by change.

 

[MrMatt]

This seems to be a very real problem. Too many on the right are too stupid to understand what their own intellectual shortfalls are. You see it on this forum every day. You see it in candidates such as Palin, O'Donnel, Angle...etc. You see these idiots shout from the rooftops without any logic, reason, or basis. They do it because they cannot understand they are stupid.

What's worse is that these are the people the stupid people are advocating.

We have fallen far as a population. Paine, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams...etc, may not have all been the best educated, but they were smart. They were intelligent. They had logic. Now we think that the dumber the person, the better. It started with Reagan and rolled through to GW.

Why the battle against intellectualism? Because the stupid people are too stupid to understand they are too stupid to understand.

http://www.demsfightinwords.com/wordpress/?p=2837

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

I forgot that only ultra liberals are intelligent. You're right, we should abolish two party or multi party politics and adopt everything every liberal says. Not saying I like republicans, because I generally don't, just as I dislike democrats. But to say it's all one side's fault is fucking retarded. That's how we get in messes like this in the first place.

 

[Moonbeam]

Because no one should ever forget what he means by change.

Hehe, surely you see the silliness of your claim. In the first place what you take from that quote is what you are able to carry, not much in your case, and two, what was said there is only a tiny fraction of what he means by change. You really need to examine the shallowness of your thinking. This is deeply robotic.

 

[Moonbeam]

Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the middle with you,
Yes I'm stuck in the middle with you,
Stuck in the middle with you.

Both sides have their leaders and their losers. Right now the right has become so corrupt that they are just hanging on and milking the system for everything they can get, f9r as long as they can and that is why they can't find anybody with integrity to lead them right now. It's just part of the cycle and it happens to both sides.

I happen to think that your average Joe Six-pack is a little better off with the left then they are with the right. but it has nothing to do with one side being more intellectual or anti-intellectual then the other.

Yes, Democrats are a more intelligent choice for the average voter because they more intelligently fit with their real, as opposed to inculcated needs. But billions are spent to keep them agitated, angry, and self destructive when they go to vote.

 

[Moonbeam]

I forgot that only ultra liberals are intelligent. You're right, we should abolish two party or multi party politics and adopt everything every liberal says. Not saying I like republicans, because I generally don't, just as I dislike democrats. But to say it's all one side's fault is fucking retarded. That's how we get in messes like this in the first place.

You should go stab some air.

 

[Atreus21]

Yes, Democrats are a more intelligent choice for the average voter because they more intelligently fit with their real, as opposed to inculcated needs. But billions are spent to keep them agitated, angry, and self destructive when they go to vote.

Prove anything you just said.

 

[woolfe9999]

Because no one should ever forget what he means by change.

Why is his middle named included in the quote? Did you use Bush's middle name every time you referred to him in a post? What is the relevance of his middle name that requires it be highlighted in this manner when it isn't done for other presidents?

- wolf

 

[Atreus21]

Why is his middle named included in the quote? Did you use Bush's middle name every time you referred to him in a post? What is the relevance of his middle name that requires it be highlighted in this manner when it isn't done for other presidents?

- wolf

Did anyone even know Bush's middle name apart from W., which was routinely used?

 

[Scotteq]

Walker - Normally written as "Dubya"

 

[BoberFett]

You should go stab some air.

Wouldn't your skull get in the way?

 

[Moonbeam]

Prove anything you just said.

Nice try, but in a thread where the topic is folks are too stupid to know they are stupid you're asking for proof they are stupid. You seem not to have picked up on the fact that's impossible if you are one of them.

Fools convinced against their will are of the same opinion still.

 

[Moonbeam]

Can you prove any of that fools stuff?

 

[Moonbeam]

Can you prove any of that fools stuff?

Well, for example, democrats want a middle class tax cut which would apply to most voters, but Republicans want those cuts to also add 700 billion to the deficit and go to the top 2 percent. An intelligent average person would see that Republicans are serving the wealthy and a tiny minority but folk who have power via money. But try to prove it and you will be fed a ton of bull shit. And the brain dead won't see it.