The double standard on Race

[imported_Shivetya]

Local Georgia Rep drops the N-word during a discussion about getting Corretta Scott King's portrait into our state's capitol.

Its OK, she's black. She can do that.

AJC view on same issue, more text.

Of course we can't discuss this without the hypocrisy with Imus, Former NAACP head says firing was right thing to do

Its a free country, let the market decide. I am impressed that NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, are all so concerned with bigotry on the radio and demeaning of black women in paticular. Oh wait, their not. Granted its Michelle Malkin, I got the link from reading DIGG, but she does make a good point. Look at the top of the charts for RAP music.

I would put it down as this, the so called leaders looking out for the black community need the other side to be bad so they can continue in the limelight, gain fame, and gain money. They don't give a ****** about the real damage that occurs to their communities as they probably don't even live in them. Its far easier to paint the other side as the problem instead of ignoring the hatred that is fed to their youth on a daily basis. Disrespect for women, parents, the law, and anyone else.

 

[compuwiz1]

This is something pent up....so I'm just gonna let it go. Fus ck-Em! I have no use for those particular nannys, anymore.

 

[jlbenedict]

"Snoop Dogg attacks critics who compare him to Imus because, as he told MTV:

"It's a completely different scenario," said Snoop, barking over the phone from a hotel room in L.A. "[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [the cable network home to Imus] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha-----as say we in the same league as him."


Translation: Only black rappers can call women hos and bitches. Only black rappers can call black people niggas. Because it's coming from their minds and souls.

 

[GoPackGo]

What they do is perpetuate racism...not end it.

The more they say "HEY! You CANT SAY THAT" because you are white, but blacks can with impunity the more they really say "Hey! Never forget that BLACKS and WHITES really ARE DIFFERENT"

 

[ayabe]

Coming from our minds and souls?

Seriously, someone needs to inform Snoop D-oh-double-G that his music has been about exploitation for more than 10 years now. There is no large over-arching social message in rap, that went away a long time ago.

Gimme a break.

 

[jlbenedict]

Today I will begin boycotting any rap music, anything to do with the "hip hop" culture. If I own a dvd movie and has any mention of the word "******" or "ho" in it, I will trash it.
Any rap artists cd I own: trash

I'm offended by BET. Where's my WET?

Better yet, I may mail off all this $hit and a letter to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton with a big "F ck you".

 

[Socio]

There are lots of double standards on race today;

You can have BET but WET would be racist

You can have organizations like the NAACP but if you had one called NAAWP (National Association for the Advancement of White People) it would be deemed a racist organization.

You can have all Black, Latino etc... Beauty pageants but all White would be racist

You can have Black sports award shows honoring black athletes but do the same for White athletes would be racist.

You can have the Black entertainment awards shows honoring blacks in the entertainment business and Latino entertainment awards honoring Latinos in the entertainment business but if you had White entertainment awards it would be racist.

The fact is in today?s society you can not single out the White race for anything because it would be considered racist unless is it labeling the White race as the only race that can be called racist.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
What they do is perpetuate racism...not end it.

The more they say "HEY! You CANT SAY THAT" because you are white, but blacks can with impunity the more they really say "Hey! Never forget that BLACKS and WHITES really ARE DIFFERENT"

I agree. Black people need to think out of the box a little more on this issue rather then rushing to organize a "united front" with the soul (pun intended) purpose of getting somone fired for some thoughtless remark.

I watched a little MSNBC last night and they had Sharpton on. The interviewer asked him if he thought Imus's apology was sincere and Sharpton was caught by surprise and never did answer the question. He said that wasn't the issue, the issue was it was "public airways".

If only we could fire everyone who makes an ignorant comment on the "public airways".

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Socio
There are lots of double standards on race today;

You can have BET but WET would be racist

You can have organizations like the NAACP but if you had one called NAAWP (National Association for the Advancement of White People) it would be deemed a racist organization.

You can have all Black, Latino etc... Beauty pageants but all White would be racist

You can have Black sports award shows honoring black athletes but do the same for White athletes would be racist.

You can have the Black entertainment awards shows honoring blacks in the entertainment business and Latino entertainment awards honoring Latinos in the entertainment business but if you had White entertainment awards it would be racist.

The fact is in today?s society you can not single out the White race for anything because it would be considered racist unless is it labeling the White race as the only race that can be called racist.

actually what you are referring to is not just racial. any minority group is allowed to have things that the majority can not. from national womens month, to gay pride parades. i am not supporting this fact, just pointing it out.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
What they do is perpetuate racism...not end it.

The more they say "HEY! You CANT SAY THAT" because you are white, but blacks can with impunity the more they really say "Hey! Never forget that BLACKS and WHITES really ARE DIFFERENT"

I agree. Black people need to think out of the box a little more on this issue rather then rushing to organize a "united front" with the soul (pun intended) purpose of getting somone fired for some thoughtless remark.

I watched a little MSNBC last night and they had Sharpton on. The interviewer asked him if he thought Imus's apology was sincere and Sharpton was caught by surprise and never did answer the question. He said that wasn't the issue, the issue was it was "public airways".

If only we could fire everyone who makes an ignorant comment on the "public airways".

Was that on that O'reily show ?

I watched peices of that also. Sharpton dodged every damn question if it was related back in the other direction. The interviewer made reference to the hip hop community and rap albums and Sharpton totally ignored it.. and made reference to something else out of the blue..

 

[1EZduzit]

No, it was a younger guy, early thiries, dark hair?? I don't have cable (caught the show over at my broither's house) so I don't know his name or the name of the show?

He agreed with Imus being fired so that might be why the question caught Sharpton off guard, but it was a very good question nontheless.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Oprah to host Rutgers team on her show, I wonder how long before she has the Duke Lacrosse team on the air to show the other side of the problem?

Oh I bet she won't, it won't play up to the issue she uses as a club when she needs one. It won't invoke the sympathy she wants since its white guys being vindicated.

Look, a Rutgers no season was cancelled, no coach was fired, and no one was brought up on charges by overzealous DAs, let alone slandered by the media and professors of their own school.

The Duke controversy flew into overdrive because of the race warlords, specifically Jackson who said he would pay for the "victim's" college should her allegations prove true then went so far as to claim he would pay for them even if they were not true!!! Just read his race and religious baiting crap in his own WORDS

I wonder if the Rutger's players will sue too? Who bets that if they do they win more money than the kids at Duke who truly were the victims of racial hatred.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Perhaps the balance is tipping with more and more editorials questioning why Imus isn't being villified while black culture celebrates rappers who invoke hatred daily or the fact that problems are ignored in hopes someone "white" will screw up

 

[Darkstar757]

You know whats so SICK! That people on this FORM ARE SO DUMB AND RACIST!!!! SO WHAT IMUS GOT FIRED, BLACKS WERE HUNG DAILY JUST 20 Years AGO. ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE POOR BOY WHO WAS DRUG FOR 10 miles BTW THE KKK only 4 YEARS AGO ( I DID NOT MAKE A THREAD CONDIMMING WHITE PEOPLE) "I didnt because it would be dumB!!!!!!". LOOK THIS COUNTRY HAS BIGGER FISH TO FRY(TERRORISTS). LET THE RACE ISSUES GO. DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


"And finally, as I try to explain for you and for myself the road that leads from Montgomery to this place I would have offered all that was most valid if I simply said that I must be true to my conviction that I share with all men the calling to be a son of the living God. Beyond the calling of race or nation or creed is this vocation of sonship and brotherhood, and because I believe that the Father is deeply concerned especially for his suffering and helpless and outcast children, I come tonight to speak for them.

This I believe to be the privilege and the burden of all of us who deem ourselves bound by allegiances and loyalties which are broader and deeper than nationalism and which go beyond our nation's self-defined goals and positions. We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for the victims of our nation and for those it calls "enemy," for no document from human hands can make these humans any less our brothers."

Martin Luther King

 

[piasabird]

I say grow up. Every group gets insulted all the time.

 

[piasabird]

I am suprised blacks even listen to his stupid show. The FCC Could just fine the producers of the show. This guy never was a very nice person so I dont much care. There are enough radio programs that an intelligent person can just change the channel.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
The Duke controversy flew into overdrive because of the race warlords, specifically Jackson who said he would pay for the "victim's" college should her allegations prove true then went so far as to claim he would pay for them even if they were not true!!! Just read his race and religious baiting crap in his own WORDS

Thanks for that link.

In it Jackson attacks the Duke players more then once for not making any statements and staying silent after talking with their lawyer. "Right to remain silent..."

I never really had an opinion on Sharpton and Jackson before this Duke incident and the Imus situation.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Local Georgia Rep drops the N-word during a discussion about getting Corretta Scott King's portrait into our state's capitol.

Its OK, she's black. She can do that.

AJC view on same issue, more text.

Of course we can't discuss this without the hypocrisy with Imus, Former NAACP head says firing was right thing to do

Its a free country, let the market decide. I am impressed that NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, are all so concerned with bigotry on the radio and demeaning of black women in paticular. Oh wait, their not. Granted its Michelle Malkin, I got the link from reading DIGG, but she does make a good point. Look at the top of the charts for RAP music.

I would put it down as this, the so called leaders looking out for the black community need the other side to be bad so they can continue in the limelight, gain fame, and gain money. They don't give a ****** about the real damage that occurs to their communities as they probably don't even live in them. Its far easier to paint the other side as the problem instead of ignoring the hatred that is fed to their youth on a daily basis. Disrespect for women, parents, the law, and anyone else.

You've been listening to Larry Elder a little too much me thinks.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

of course no one should discuss it, lets put it back under the carpet where it belongs. Lets not excuse words because of actions of others year ago. Well it won't go till the race warlords go and no amount of quoting MLK is going to do anything about it.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS!

You've obviously never heard of the likes of Death Row Records and Suge Knight.

 

[RiverDog]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
You know whats so SICK! That people on this FORM ARE SO DUMB AND RACIST!!!! SO WHAT IMUS GOT FIRED, BLACKS WERE HUNG DAILY JUST 20 Years AGO. ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE POOR BOY WHO WAS DRUG FOR 10 miles BTW THE KKK only 4 YEARS AGO ( I DID NOT MAKE A THREAD CONDIMMING WHITE PEOPLE) "I didnt because it would be dumB!!!!!!". LOOK THIS COUNTRY HAS BIGGER FISH TO FRY(TERRORISTS). LET THE RACE ISSUES GO. DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


I must be dumb, I don't remember blacks being hung daily. Would you like to give your reference to this.

 

[bdude]

There is no double standard. The media is a circus and today, Imus is centerstage.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS!

You've obviously never heard of the likes of Death Row Records and Suge Knight.

Oh please - these people aren't even players in the current music industry. I think the point he is trying to make is that a hip hop and rap music is largely funded and backed by corporate culture, in an attempt to capitalize on the musical tastes of young, middle class white kids.

Speaking of double standards, I know this is off topic, but why does nobody challenge the pedestal the Duke Lacrosse Team is being put on? I feel bad for the kids, but I honestly feel that white America is giving this story more air time than it ever deserved - almost as a backlash to the demoted status of the white male. Had the woman been poor and white, and the players black, I honestly believe this story would never have been sensationalized the way it has. In fact - I doubt it would have become a national news story.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
You know whats so SICK! That people on this FORM ARE SO DUMB AND RACIST!!!! SO WHAT IMUS GOT FIRED, BLACKS WERE HUNG DAILY JUST 20 Years AGO. ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE POOR BOY WHO WAS DRUG FOR 10 miles BTW THE KKK only 4 YEARS AGO ( I DID NOT MAKE A THREAD CONDIMMING WHITE PEOPLE) "I didnt because it would be dumB!!!!!!". LOOK THIS COUNTRY HAS BIGGER FISH TO FRY(TERRORISTS). LET THE RACE ISSUES GO. DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You are part of the problem, probably the biggest part of the problem for the race issue today. STFU and get over whatever the hell happened in the past. Stop making excuses for yourself, you're pitiful.

BTW, no one is condemning black people.....Al is that you?

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: crownjules

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
DONT BE ANGRY AT ALL BLACKS FOR HIP HOP AND RAP BECAUSE ITS NOT THAT BLACK WHO FUND AND SUPPORT THESE ARTISTS!

You've obviously never heard of the likes of Death Row Records and Suge Knight.

Oh please - these people aren't even players in the current music industry. I think the point he is trying to make is that a hip hop and rap music is largely funded and backed by corporate culture, in an attempt to capitalize on the musical tastes of young, middle class white kids.

Speaking of double standards, I know this is off topic, but why does nobody challenge the pedestal the Duke Lacrosse Team is being put on? I feel bad for the kids, but I honestly feel that white America is giving this story more air time than it ever deserved - almost as a backlash to the demoted status of the white male. Had the woman been poor and white, and the players black, I honestly believe this story would never have been sensationalized the way it has. In fact - I doubt it would have become a national news story.

Don't be so naive.