The Death of PC Gaming?

Nellinc

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Hi all,
this may be a bit of a rant, but here goes...How many out there think that the bew consoles will kill computer gaming as we know it? We've already seen companies pulling out of developing titles for the PC, and it seems as if the graphics potential of these new consoles will rival, or even surpass most PC's. Now here's the kicker, I can buy a PS3 for around 400.00 or spend 1000.00 on just my 2 video cards? Then thousands more on constant upgrades...I use my gaming scarcely, as I am more addicted to music and d-loading...but, i also like to build and upgrade PC's. Will we see reductions in the prices of PC components withing the next year to keep all us hardcore PC gamers happy? I doubt it....As much as I like to build, if I can hook up the PS3 to my hi-def sony widescreen tv, get spectacuolar looking graphics and have an abundance of games...I may become a dreaded console person myself. It will be an interseting year to say the least...people's thoughts?
Nell
 

imported_Beavis

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I dont think PC gaming will die, cause people like to make extra maps and mods to the games while you cannot do that with a console game, you could but i haven't heard of any modded console game yet. Quake I, II, and III for the PC is a classic Example, lots of mods and maps to the game which made it more enjoyable.
 

Greenman

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Yup, we had this thread yesterday. I'll save you the trouble of searching for it. Everyone who thinks the new consoles are the best thing since sliced bread, still do. Everyone who thinks the pc is king still does. Most of us just yawned.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: piasabird
I wonder if there will ever be Lan Parties where you can use only PS3 Consoles?

Um, people have been doing that with the XBox for a while now.
 

Rock Hydra

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The Death of PC gaming...I remember hearing this when practically every next gen console comes out. GET OVER IT, IT WON'T HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON!
 

Diasper

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I actually posted a little bit on this the day before yesterday. I'm in the process of editing it so don't be too critical until I've got it done properly :)
 

Nellinc

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Alright,alright, no need to get your panties all in a bunch....i apologize for not searching for the topic first. Don't be such queers about it though. :-0
 

will889

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No death to pc gaming. Won't ever happen. PC gaming gives you a totally different experirnce. Granted for the very first time the graphics on the console finally passed up the PC but that won't last too long. Playing with a keyboard, downloading intricate mods for games, playing shooters online with xfire and other apps, having a really nice dell LCD close to you're face is just a better gaming experience IMO than a console. I will undoubtably get one of the two new consoles but it will be for the kids and sports games (no shooters until later). Also both our kids build PC's with me (my wife helps too sometimes). It's a family thing and i don't see consoles taking that over because we havea gamecube, xbox, and PS2 (on a 42" big screen) and we sold all of them after we played sports games for a while. They (we) simply enjoy the PC experience alot better. So yeah, the console will be faster for a while, but it won't last that long. Maybe a year.
 

Duvie

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All what gaming on PCs and consoles do is support our kids getting lazier and lazeir and thus fatter and fatter.....


i grew up in the era of crappy looking games on Atari and it wasn't nice enough to keep me indoors...I went outsides and played and in return in the 80's the number of really fat kids in my entire HIgh school class was 4 with about a dozen husky....

Went to colleg in the eraly 90's and I saw guys getting SNES systems and evrybody lounging in that room instead of playing B-ball and hanging outside picking up babes....Ppl started getting fatter...

I am now a dad and I have owned one console ever (3do for NFS and some jet fighter game)....The number of fat kids even as young as 5 is increasing....I usually see those kids sitting off to the side with their gameboys (portable consoles)...I ask them do they have a gaming system at home and they are like "yeah" We have a PS2 or an Xbox.....Unreal....

I think ppl who buy PC just for gaming and over the age of 18 and should be working or in school learning should be taken out back and flogged.....Parents who buy this stuff should be as well unless it has at least a 50/50 use for something important...

 

kornphlake

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Originally posted by: Duvie
All what gaming on PCs and consoles do is support our kids getting lazier and lazeir and thus fatter and fatter.....


i grew up in the era of crappy looking games on Atari and it wasn't nice enough to keep me indoors...I went outsides and played and in return in the 80's the number of really fat kids in my entire HIgh school class was 4 with about a dozen husky....

Went to colleg in the eraly 90's and I saw guys getting SNES systems and evrybody lounging in that room instead of playing B-ball and hanging outside picking up babes....Ppl started getting fatter...

I am now a dad and I have owned one console ever (3do for NFS and some jet fighter game)....The number of fat kids even as young as 5 is increasing....I usually see those kids sitting off to the side with their gameboys (portable consoles)...I ask them do they have a gaming system at home and they are like "yeah" We have a PS2 or an Xbox.....Unreal....

I think ppl who buy PC just for gaming and over the age of 18 and should be working or in school learning should be taken out back and flogged.....Parents who buy this stuff should be as well unless it has at least a 50/50 use for something important...

Wow, talk about a passionate post...

I have to agree though, as a father it is my responsiblity to ensure that my children become at least as productive to society as I am. I do own a computer that I occasionally play games on as well as a PS2 console. The thing is that most of the time they both sit idle, or in the case of the PC, used for productive activities. I try to interact with my child as much as possible away from the television doing anything from showing her how to use a piece of sandpaper to throwing rocks in the creek. Moderation in all things is a good mantra to live by, consoles are not evil, nor are games but overuse is.

 

Soffty

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I don't think it will die. Since every console follows the principle and the basic build of a PC... Hell the console developers won't beat the PC because they are trying to imitate it by making a system which is a multimedia platform.
 

bwnv

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Then there's people like me, that haven't bought a console in probably 20 years. Well actually I got my son a PS-1 a few years ago for X-mas. He had to earn money if he wanted any new games though. I just don't see any point. My puter is much more reliable, sturdy, and useful to me. If some wan't to buy the latest and greatest more power to you, it's just not for me.
:)
 

will889

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Originally posted by: Duvie
All what gaming on PCs and consoles do is support our kids getting lazier and lazeir and thus fatter and fatter.....

iI think ppl who buy PC just for gaming and over the age of 18 and should be working or in school learning should be taken out back and flogged.....Parents who buy this stuff should be as well unless it has at least a 50/50 use for something important...

I agree with your entire post, but in my case it's how i make my living. As in shop owne/networker. Inevitably the kids are interested in how i set up lan parties for other kids (and adults), and colleges, and other venues. And .. i agree about getting the kids out and about and off of games in general. In fact we shut everything down when the kids study. No PC's on, no TV on. Just books and reading and studying, the old way. My kids don't game with consoles anymore really, only the PC and only on weekends for a few hours. But they do enjoy the fact that they can build them, and they are both very advanced in their science/math classes, and both are on swim teams on school and active.
 

will889

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^ that is until my Physical Therapy and Chiropractic degree is done which it nearly is, then i will be totally away from this field. Ironically i have been wanting out of the tech field for a long time now. I would rather play with it than solve other peoples problems any longer. :)
 

Nellinc

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I guess what i would like to see, is a drastic reduction in the price of pc hardware to keep the scene alive...as a compulsive upgrader, it often breaks my bank. I love sports games the best, and also ravenshield...i am not supporting the death of pc-gaming..im deathly afraid of it....the only thing i love better then building a new machine is....my wife. And it's close... ;-)
 

will889

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Nice post. I don't think PC gaming will be going anywhere. It may slow down though for a while until it leapfrogs the consoles again. Ironically if it does slow down i actually expect better games for the PC. Games don't have to be techically advaned to be good games, they just need to be fun IMO.
 

obeseotron

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People don't seem to get it. Development costs are going to sky rocket to such a point that there is no way to make a PC only game unless you're valve or blizzard. Do some math and figure out how a game that sells 500,000 units is going to make any money if development costs are 10-15 million. Economics do change. Mainstream PC's (intel graphics are in half of pcs) are still SLOWER than Xbox1 with it's geforce 3.5. It wasn't until the release of the Radeon 9700 that PC's gained the upper hand on xbox1 and ps2 (in a practical rather than purely technological sense). 6800U/x850XT is 16 pipelines and the xbox 360, the slowest of the new systems is 48. All of the new systems have heavily multicore cpus, games won't be written for dualcore x86 cpus for another couple years. Do you see the overall thrust of this? By the time the economics are in place to make developing PC games of the quality as nextgen systems feasible, the consoles will have been out for years. I'm a lifelong PC gamer, I have a PS2 because I love GTA games and am impatient, but that's it. I'll be saving my money for a 24" LCD and a PS3 to run in full 1080p and not a Geforce8.

People won't stop playing games on computers, but gamers might.
 

sirjahmez

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Originally posted by: will889
Nice post. I don't think PC gaming will be going anywhere. It may slow down though for a while until it leapfrogs the consoles again. Ironically if it does slow down i actually expect better games for the PC. Games don't have to be techically advaned to be good games, they just need to be fun IMO.


PC gaming won't die, sure it might slow down a little, but not die cause PC gaming as something consoles don't, flexibliity. You can literally buy a game and play it for a whole year, using different mods and online. Console games are too focused on graphics and less on game play. Don't need the fanciest game, just something fun to play with friends.
 

will889

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Originally posted by: obeseotron

People won't stop playing games on computers, but gamers might.


You have a few good points, but PC "gamers" don't shift to consoles just because there are more titles and more power <now> with the console. Sure the XB2 and PS3 will be very powerful. I don't give 2 turds. Really .. i don't. I'll still be playing my RPG's on the PC. Lower power or not i can still play them @ 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 and enjoy it just fine. Go ahead and get the console if that's you're thing. Enjoy it. There are more PC devs than the two you mentioned you know. But i can tell you i fully "get it" i still don't give 2 turds. Impressive yes. So was the Xbox when it was intro'ed. Same/same though this time the console actually does pass up the PC considerably, but rest assured that by the time these things are actually out, 6 months to a year later they will get leapfrogged again by the PC. Who really cares. I don't. But as far as the console being a better chioce for many gamers .. i would have to agree to some extent that there will be more then a few gamers that will finally give up the PC to the console for games, but i won't be one of those gamers.