The Daily Show and The Last Throes

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

Yes, most of what TDS uses is pure logic and the insanity of those who contradict themselves repeatedly. He definitely hits both 'sides' when he can (anti-Nazi rhetoric, for example), but has a wealth of material to draw upon with the current administration.

I usually laugh my ass off at first, then feel kinda ashamed when I realize how right he is about some things.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: BBond

Any opposition to Bush or anyone in his administration, or opposition to any of his policies, is due to a left-leaning conspiracy in America and has NOTHING to do with any facts or any blatantly obvious lies told by Bush and/or members of his adminsitration.

In other words -- in America today -- the truth is a left-leaning conspiracy against Bush.

Little wonder we're in the mess we're in.

How about the little fact that anyone who doesn't immediately discredit and ridicule anyone with an (R) beside his name is considered a "Neocon Bush-God Fanboi Sheep," whether they be conservatives, liberals, moderates, or independents, etc? How does that fit in with your whole idea of why we are are "in the mess we're in," hmm?


( and could you be sure to try and work in the word 'hypocrite" in your response, just because I'm such a sucker for irony. :thumbsup: )

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

C'mon dont be such a tool. I'm left leaning. The right supports the war, the left (in general) is more critical of the war. He's critical of the war. That's a leftist position and has nothing to do with whethere you think the position is reasonable. He's also spoke positively of guncontrol, negatively of the bush tax cuts, positively of rasing minimum wage, negatively of displaying the 10 commandments in courtrooms. I Agree with all these, but yet that doesn't make them any less liberal viewpoints.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

So if you're against the Iraq war, you're left-leaning?

In general, but not always. He also takes the more liberal position on a host of topics. Why do you act like being liberal is a bad thing? I don't think it is.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

So if you're against the Iraq war, you're left-leaning?

Any opposition to Bush or anyone in his administration, or opposition to any of his policies, is due to a left-leaning conspiracy in America and has NOTHING to do with any facts or any blatantly obvious lies told by Bush and/or members of his adminsitration.

In other words -- in America today -- the truth is a left-leaning conspiracy against Bush.

Little wonder we're in the mess we're in.

tool

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

So if you're against the Iraq war, you're left-leaning?

Any opposition to Bush or anyone in his administration, or opposition to any of his policies, is due to a left-leaning conspiracy in America and has NOTHING to do with any facts or any blatantly obvious lies told by Bush and/or members of his adminsitration.

In other words -- in America today -- the truth is a left-leaning conspiracy against Bush.

Little wonder we're in the mess we're in.

tool

Watch the clip and refute the lies.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

C'mon dont be such a tool. I'm left leaning. The right supports the war, the left (in general) is more critical of the war. He's critical of the war. That's a leftist position and has nothing to do with whethere you think the position is reasonable. He's also spoke positively of guncontrol, negatively of the bush tax cuts, positively of rasing minimum wage, negatively of displaying the 10 commandments in courtrooms. I Agree with all these, but yet that doesn't make them any less liberal viewpoints.

he has also spoke negatively of an assortment of liberal agendas. doing the best i can to remove politics from my observation there seems to be a lot more to tear apart coming from the right (their near total control of the gov't may have something to do with this). i'm sure this makes me a "tool" but I guess if anyone who disagrees with you is part of this club I don't really mind all that much....

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

So if you're against the Iraq war, you're left-leaning?

Any opposition to Bush or anyone in his administration, or opposition to any of his policies, is due to a left-leaning conspiracy in America and has NOTHING to do with any facts or any blatantly obvious lies told by Bush and/or members of his adminsitration.

In other words -- in America today -- the truth is a left-leaning conspiracy against Bush.

Little wonder we're in the mess we're in.

tool

Watch the clip and refute the lies.

I agree that the administration lies. I called you a tool because of your little childish rant.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

C'mon dont be such a tool. I'm left leaning. The right supports the war, the left (in general) is more critical of the war. He's critical of the war. That's a leftist position and has nothing to do with whethere you think the position is reasonable. He's also spoke positively of guncontrol, negatively of the bush tax cuts, positively of rasing minimum wage, negatively of displaying the 10 commandments in courtrooms. I Agree with all these, but yet that doesn't make them any less liberal viewpoints.

he has also spoke negatively of an assortment of liberal agendas. doing the best i can to remove politics from my observation there seems to be a lot more to tear apart coming from the right (their near total control of the gov't may have something to do with this). i'm sure this makes me a "tool" but I guess if anyone who disagrees with you is part of this club I don't really mind all that much....

Who said anything about disagreeing. I agree with his positions, but anyone that comes on here and says John Stewart isnt at least a little liberal leaning is as dilusional as a right winger coming on here saying fox news is fair and balanced. I watch the Daily Show every day and I love it. But his criticisms of the left are usually over stupid stuff they say or do. While for republicans its both the stupid stuff they do AND also policy. He's flat out tolf conservative guests that he and them probably share no common gorund. If you persist, in this claiming hes not at least a little liberal then how can anyone take your statements serious. It hurts the position of liberals on this forum.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

C'mon dont be such a tool. I'm left leaning. The right supports the war, the left (in general) is more critical of the war. He's critical of the war. That's a leftist position and has nothing to do with whethere you think the position is reasonable. He's also spoke positively of guncontrol, negatively of the bush tax cuts, positively of rasing minimum wage, negatively of displaying the 10 commandments in courtrooms. I Agree with all these, but yet that doesn't make them any less liberal viewpoints.

he has also spoke negatively of an assortment of liberal agendas. doing the best i can to remove politics from my observation there seems to be a lot more to tear apart coming from the right (their near total control of the gov't may have something to do with this). i'm sure this makes me a "tool" but I guess if anyone who disagrees with you is part of this club I don't really mind all that much....

Who said anything about disagreeing. I agree with his positions, but anyone that comes on here and says John Stewart isnt at least a little liberal leaning is as dilusional as a right winger coming on here saying fox news is fair and balanced. I watch the Daily Show every day and I love it. But his criticisms of the left are usually over stupid stuff they say or do. While for republicans its both the stupid stuff they do AND also policy. He's flat out tolf conservative guests that he and them probably share no common gorund. If you persist, in this claiming hes not at least a little liberal then how can anyone take your statements serious. It hurts the position of liberals on this forum.

general disagreement with this admins policies doesn't imply that someone is liberal in my book - it simply implies that they are reasonable. i certainly know some people who are conservative who don't like this admin one bit. i feel for the material that JS has to work with he's being fair to everyone. his comedy is simply a reflection of what's going on out there.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: minus1972
I'll admit that the Daily Show is pretty left leaning, but Bush has been in office for the majority of time Stewart has been at the desk. I tend to think that they would be just as hard on the Democrats if they were in the position of power that the Republicans are.

without a doubt, the whole point of the show is to make fun of politicians and the ones in charge, it just happens its the republicans now

Just find it odd how when people make fun of the admin, or show that they are not supportive of them people start to brand them as the left.

He'd make fun of a democratic administration too, but his views on Iraq and various other topics are clearly left leaning.

they only seem left leaning if you've bought into what bush is selling - otherwise they seem logical.

C'mon dont be such a tool. I'm left leaning. The right supports the war, the left (in general) is more critical of the war. He's critical of the war. That's a leftist position and has nothing to do with whethere you think the position is reasonable. He's also spoke positively of guncontrol, negatively of the bush tax cuts, positively of rasing minimum wage, negatively of displaying the 10 commandments in courtrooms. I Agree with all these, but yet that doesn't make them any less liberal viewpoints.

he has also spoke negatively of an assortment of liberal agendas. doing the best i can to remove politics from my observation there seems to be a lot more to tear apart coming from the right (their near total control of the gov't may have something to do with this). i'm sure this makes me a "tool" but I guess if anyone who disagrees with you is part of this club I don't really mind all that much....

Who said anything about disagreeing. I agree with his positions, but anyone that comes on here and says John Stewart isnt at least a little liberal leaning is as dilusional as a right winger coming on here saying fox news is fair and balanced. I watch the Daily Show every day and I love it. But his criticisms of the left are usually over stupid stuff they say or do. While for republicans its both the stupid stuff they do AND also policy. He's flat out tolf conservative guests that he and them probably share no common gorund. If you persist, in this claiming hes not at least a little liberal then how can anyone take your statements serious. It hurts the position of liberals on this forum.

general disagreement with this admins policies doesn't imply that someone is liberal in my book - it simply implies that they are reasonable. i certainly know some people who are conservative who don't like this admin one bit. i feel for the material that JS has to work with he's being fair to everyone. his comedy is simply a reflection of what's going on out there.

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

Ben Affleck campaigned HARD for John Kerry. This is the first I've ever heard of Affleck being a Republican.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: tss4


I agree that the administration lies. I called you a tool because of your little childish rant.

You swallow the lies whole without even chewing and you call me the tool.

Did you even bother to watch the clip?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

Ben Affleck campaigned HARD for John Kerry. This is the first I've ever heard of Affleck being a Republican.

I assumed nutxo meant that Ben implied Stewart was a repub..

 

[nutxo]

I didnt say Afleck said he was a republican. There was somethign that was said that made Afleck come off as right wing. Steward said something like " oh god ben, not you".

Why doesnt someone just find and download the interview instead of getting your panties in a bunch.

On the flip side anyone remember the daily show promos " Dont get your news from us, WE LIE!"

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

Ben Affleck campaigned HARD for John Kerry. This is the first I've ever heard of Affleck being a Republican.

I assumed nutxo meant that Ben implied Stewart was a repub..

upon rereading i see what you mean. even this i don't think would really fluster JS - he might pretend to be offended but he is a pretty cool operator despite pretending not to be.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: tss4


I agree that the administration lies. I called you a tool because of your little childish rant.

You swallow the lies whole without even chewing and you call me the tool.

Did you even bother to watch the clip?

What are you talking about???? You're making no sense. I just said that I think the admin lies. And now your telling me I swallow lies? You're a tool cause you use this opportunity to spout a rant that makes us liberals look like whiny brats.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

BINGO! which was what I have been saying. John Stewart is a liberal, but then some people started saying "oh no, he's not a liberal at all". They make liberals sound stupid when they say that.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

BINGO! which was what I have been saying. John Stewart is a liberal, but then some people started saying "oh no, he's not a liberal at all". They make liberals sound stupid when they say that.

and captain kangaroo swore like a sailer!

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: nutxo

I saw him get upset with Ben Affleck ( sp) when Ben implied he was a republican. Why would Stewart do that if he were anything but a lefty?

stewart probably is a liberal but i think he's pretty fair in his comedy. i can't imagine he'd be offended if ben affleck was a republican as there are republicans on the DS all the time.

BINGO! which was what I have been saying. John Stewart is a liberal, but then some people started saying "oh no, he's not a liberal at all". They make liberals sound stupid when they say that.

and captain kangaroo swore like a sailer!

Do you realize you're more right than you know? He was a decorated marine and, if memory serves, he stormed the beaches of Normandy. So if he's like any other marine I've ever known, regardless of age, he "sware like a sailor"

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: nutxo
I didnt say Afleck said he was a republican. There was somethign that was said that made Afleck come off as right wing. Steward said something like " oh god ben, not you".

Why doesnt someone just find and download the interview instead of getting your panties in a bunch.

On the flip side anyone remember the daily show promos " Dont get your news from us, WE LIE!"

/shrug. Who knows and does it really matter?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: nutxo
I didnt say Afleck said he was a republican. There was somethign that was said that made Afleck come off as right wing. Steward said something like " oh god ben, not you".

Why doesnt someone just find and download the interview instead of getting your panties in a bunch.

On the flip side anyone remember the daily show promos " Dont get your news from us, WE LIE!"

Aflack apparently came off as right wing to you, but Stuart's may well have taken it differently. Regardless, Stuart throws his share of jabs at democrats as well so one can hardly brush him off as a partisan hack.

As for the Daily Show promos, I don't recall one that said what you mention off hand, but I know they like to call themselves a "fake news show" and I'm pretty sure there was an ad where they said they make stuff up. Political satire is their gig, but the lying and obfuscation from the administration demonstrated in the clip linked at the top of this thread is by no means what our government's job is.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: tss4


I agree that the administration lies. I called you a tool because of your little childish rant.

You swallow the lies whole without even chewing and you call me the tool.

Did you even bother to watch the clip?

What are you talking about???? You're making no sense. I just said that I think the admin lies. And now your telling me I swallow lies? You're a tool cause you use this opportunity to spout a rant that makes us liberals look like whiny brats.

If you think the administration lies, why are you obfuscating the point by attacking Stewart as left-leaning when the clip, in fact, doesn't lean either way? Stewart presents quotes from Dumsfeld and Cheney contradicting their own words. How is that "leftl-leaning"?

IMO, you're just another conservative hiding behind a left-leaning label.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Infohawk
What do the neocons think about this?

It is Jon Stewart, what else is there to say?

It'd be nice if a fan of the administration would deal with the criticism: that the "last throes" tap-dancing was absurd. If the war's going to go on for 12 more years, nobody is in its last throes. So why did he say that?