The Creationism Museum

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

 

[ruu]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
But it was written by men and men are fallible.

But the Bible is not, nor is what is written in it.

How do you know that the people who were writing it didn't make a mistake? Like a typo or something like that? The Bible is pretty long; I would expect quite a few typos.

Funny, you must not have heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I've heard of them. I'm not sure how they're relevant to my question. Would you mind telling me?

Edit for originally being a re-post.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Corbett

WTF, get real. You actually believe a random explosion created everything and we evolved from Apes?

I don't know if the Big Bang theory is correct but common sense tells me that the myth those Bronze Age Sheep Herders came up with for our origins is laughable. Hey believe what you want, your beliefs are meant to give you comfort, obviously you need it

And you obviously need the comfort in knowing you know more than we mere Christians.

Given the recent trend amongst American Christians to be willfully ignorant, Red Dawn will be comforted indeed.

There you go again with the name-calling again. Who are the close-minded ones again?

There you go again confusing observation with feeling. I observe the willfully ignorant behavior on the part of many American Christians and comment on it. You feel that this is somehow name-calling and bizarrely, feel that it represents close-mindedness.

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
But it was written by men and men are fallible.

But the Bible is not, nor is what is written in it.

Says so right on the cover.

The Bible says it is fallible on the cover? Pics?

As fun as it would be to whip out RealDraw and add those words, I'm just too lazy. I was responding to the idea that the bible is infallible because the bible was written by a god and we know it was written by a god because the bible says so. Basically the bible is its own tautology.

Sigh. The Bible was written by men, and inspired by God. It's the infallable Word of God.

Okay, I'll jump in over here, cuz otherwise I'll just get ignored.

How do you know that the people who were writing it didn't make simple mistakes such as typos?

Typos? Then I guess it wouldnt be the infallable Word of God.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Corbett

WTF, get real. You actually believe a random explosion created everything and we evolved from Apes?

I don't know if the Big Bang theory is correct but common sense tells me that the myth those Bronze Age Sheep Herders came up with for our origins is laughable. Hey believe what you want, your beliefs are meant to give you comfort, obviously you need it

And you obviously need the comfort in knowing you know more than we mere Christians.

Given the recent trend amongst American Christians to be willfully ignorant, Red Dawn will be comforted indeed.

There you go again with the name-calling again. Who are the close-minded ones again?

There you go again confusing observation with feeling. I observe the willfully ignorant behavior on the part of many American Christians and comment on it. You feel that this is somehow name-calling and bizarrely, feel that it represents close-mindedness.

Hey, whatever justified your bigotry in your mind I guess is ok with you.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

If it could be proven, it would not be a THEORY

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
But it was written by men and men are fallible.

But the Bible is not, nor is what is written in it.

Says so right on the cover.

The Bible says it is fallible on the cover? Pics?

As fun as it would be to whip out RealDraw and add those words, I'm just too lazy. I was responding to the idea that the bible is infallible because the bible was written by a god and we know it was written by a god because the bible says so. Basically the bible is its own tautology.

Sigh. The Bible was written by men, and inspired by God. It's the infallable Word of God.

Yep, says so right on the cover.

You really don't see the flaw in your argument do you? You've made a totally unsupportable assertion that the bible is written (inspired if you wish) by a god. Yet the only "evidence" you can offer to back it up is the bible itself. I can shorten your argument to "This sentence is true." As a reasoned position it carried as much weight as claiming a divine origin for the bible.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
But it was written by men and men are fallible.

But the Bible is not, nor is what is written in it.

Says so right on the cover.

The Bible says it is fallible on the cover? Pics?

As fun as it would be to whip out RealDraw and add those words, I'm just too lazy. I was responding to the idea that the bible is infallible because the bible was written by a god and we know it was written by a god because the bible says so. Basically the bible is its own tautology.

Sigh. The Bible was written by men, and inspired by God. It's the infallable Word of God.

Yep, says so right on the cover.

You really don't see the flaw in your argument do you? You've made a totally unsupportable assertion that the bible is written (inspired if you wish) by a god. Yet the only "evidence" you can offer to back it up is the bible itself. I can shorten your argument to "This sentence is true." As a reasoned position it carried as much weight as claiming a divine origin for the bible.

It's not my argument, it's God's argument. You see, its written in His Word.

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

If it could be proven, it would not be a THEORY

What would that put it on, the same high level as creationism?:roll:

 

[ruu]

Originally posted by: Corbett
It's not my argument, it's God's argument. You see, its written in His Word.

God's Word contradicts itself a lot, though. How are we to deal with the contradictions?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett
It's not my argument, it's God's argument. You see, its written in His Word.

God's Word contradicts itself a lot, though. How are we to deal with the contradictions?

I completely disagree. It does not contradict itself.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

If it could be proven, it would not be a THEORY

What would that put it on, the same high level as creationism?:roll:

So then we agree? Both should be allowed in schools again!

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

If it could be proven, it would not be a THEORY

What would that put it on, the same high level as creationism?:roll:

So then we agree? Both should be allowed in schools again!

lol....

sarcasm:roll:

Point is, creationism can't be tested; it's faith. Evolution CAN actually be tested.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Corbett
My point, AGAIN, was that science has not proven anything wrong in the Bible.

Umm... The bible does say god created man in his image. Science has proven that we all evolved apes. Proof. Now go bible thump elsewhere to a less intelligent audience.

You and Dewelon keep ignoring facts like the fact that DNA, geologic, and fossil evidence prove that evolution happened... But then again, ignoring facts is a pre-requisite for being Christian these days. I can understand that in the first 18-19 hundred years AD, but today, we know better.,

Is that why evolution is still considered a THEORY?

Creationism and ID aren't theories, they haven't been tested.

And evolution IS a theory. Therefore, Evolution has not PROVEN anything.

But it CAN be proven and evidence supports it, creationism can't.

If it could be proven, it would not be a THEORY

What would that put it on, the same high level as creationism?:roll:

So then we agree? Both should be allowed in schools again!

lol....

sarcasm:roll:

Welcome to P&N! You're off to a great start here. I picked up your sarcasm and you obviously missed mine.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier
Point is, creationism can't be tested; it's faith. Evolution CAN actually be tested.

Both can be tested, Neither can be PROVEN

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier
Point is, creationism can't be tested; it's faith. Evolution CAN actually be tested.

Both can be tested, neither can be PROVEN

OK tell me how creationism can be tested.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Above all else, how do you get around the fact of the bible being a work made entirely by humans?

It's the inspired Word of God. Ussher's theory is not.

Waiting for proof of this, o biblical scholar.

Go read a Bible. Its in there. And I never claimed to be a Biblical scholar.

Then I guess there should be no debate over the Bible's contents.

And yet there is. Hmm, curious.
Sounds like you know something the rest of the world doesn't.



Not more of this "just a theory" BS again.

Go jump off a bridge. The theory of gravity says you'll fall to your death.
But it's only a theory.

Try to run through a wall. Atomic theory says that you won't be able to.
But it's only a theory.

 

[ruu]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett
It's not my argument, it's God's argument. You see, its written in His Word.

God's Word contradicts itself a lot, though. How are we to deal with the contradictions?

I completely disagree. It does not contradict itself.

Well, what about these verses here:

Isaiah 14:21: "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities."

Deuteronomy 24:16: "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

The first says that children should be held responsible for the sins of their fathers.

The second says that children should NOT be held responsible for the sins of their fathers.

I'm not sure which one I'm supposed to believe.

 

[Jeff7]

If you're God, the children shall be held responsible for the sins of their parents - forever. Re: Original sin.

How's THAT for tough love?

Kid steals from the cookie jar, you don't just swat his wrist. You banish him from the house and condemn him and all of his offspring, and theirs, and so on, to a life of suffering and toil.
Then child protection services shows up.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Above all else, how do you get around the fact of the bible being a work made entirely by humans?

It's the inspired Word of God. Ussher's theory is not.

Waiting for proof of this, o biblical scholar.

Go read a Bible. Its in there. And I never claimed to be a Biblical scholar.

Then I guess there should be no debate over the Bible's contents.

And yet there is. Hmm, curious.
Sounds like you know something the rest of the world doesn't.



Not more of this "just a theory" BS again.

Go jump off a bridge. The theory of gravity says you'll fall to your death.
But it's only a theory.

Try to run through a wall. Atomic theory says that you won't be able to.
But it's only a theory.

Go jump off a bridge and don't make Jesus Lord of your life and see where you go.
But its only a theory.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Corbett
Go jump off a bridge and don't make Jesus Lord of your life and see where you go.
But its only a theory.

........wat?

:laugh:


Um, waffles?


*sigh*
The holy book says Jesus is Lord and such.
The holy book says that it is the word of God.
The holy book says that God is perfect and unchanging.
Therefore the holy book is valid.
This is not circular reasoning.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: roboskier

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: roboskier
Point is, creationism can't be tested; it's faith. Evolution CAN actually be tested.

Both can be tested, neither can be PROVEN

OK tell me how creationism can be tested.

I'll save the argument and just recant that part.

and then I'll repeat

NEITHER CAN BE PROVEN

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Above all else, how do you get around the fact of the bible being a work made entirely by humans?

It's the inspired Word of God. Ussher's theory is not.

Waiting for proof of this, o biblical scholar.

Go read a Bible. Its in there. And I never claimed to be a Biblical scholar.

Then I guess there should be no debate over the Bible's contents.

And yet there is. Hmm, curious.
Sounds like you know something the rest of the world doesn't.



Not more of this "just a theory" BS again.

Go jump off a bridge. The theory of gravity says you'll fall to your death.
But it's only a theory.

Try to run through a wall. Atomic theory says that you won't be able to.
But it's only a theory.

Go jump off a bridge and don't make Jesus Lord of your life and see where you go.
But its only a theory.

No it's not....

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: ruu

Originally posted by: Corbett
It's not my argument, it's God's argument. You see, its written in His Word.

God's Word contradicts itself a lot, though. How are we to deal with the contradictions?

I completely disagree. It does not contradict itself.

Well, what about these verses here:

Isaiah 14:21: "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities."

Deuteronomy 24:16: "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

The first says that children should be held responsible for the sins of their fathers.

The second says that children should NOT be held responsible for the sins of their fathers.

I'm not sure which one I'm supposed to believe.

Like you said, you don't believe ANY of it, so you seem to be all set. If you really want an answer, I suggest you seek out an Old Testament scholar.