I know it was not entirely about slavery. I didn't want to be labeled as a slavemaster sympathizer...
I know it was not entirely about slavery. I didn't want to be labeled as a slavemaster sympathizer...
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
this is what happens when you coddle the losers after a war
Could also explain why the French are such pu$$ies
Just FYI. If it wasn't for France London would still be our capital.
Screw that, I'm a Northerner, and I'd fly a Confederate Flag.
And NFS4, FrustratedUser is spot-on.
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The flag is a cultural statement that, in most cases, has nothing to do with race or slavery.
Just because some hate groups have adopted the flag does not make it inherently evil.
Good gawd, I'd hate to see Dukes of Hazard try to premere in this day and age. People are so damn touchy.
Just because some hate groups have adopted the flag does not make it inherently evil.
Good gawd, I'd hate to see Dukes of Hazard try to premere in this day and age. People are so damn touchy.
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bullsh*t. read the letters of some of the leadesr of the confederacy. die hard racist slavery protecting morons.
this is the kind of revisionism i'm talking about.
imagine if the germans started talking about the nazi's in a better light and flying the flag as honor for their "heritage"
Originally posted by: shinerburke
You think the South was coddled after the war? Think again....Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
go slavery!
this is what happens when you coddle the losers after a war
Oh boo fvcking hoo....
that's just the same old BS, perpetrated because most people don't want to admit they were fighting for something as vile as slavery.
The "state right" they left the Union over was the right to own people like they were cattle. Inidividual soldiers may have fought for other reasons, like nationalism or some concept of honor, but that isn't what caused the war.
Its not about who won or lost. Its not about heritage. Its about what it means today. And where I live if people fly that flag it means one thing, they are dumb ignorant racist sh!t swindlers. If they were flying the nazi flag (even though it was once a peace symbol) I think the majority would be negative towards it. I think that people are all a little racist. I mean why wouldnt you be? The majority of black people you see on tv is either the dumbasses on mtv or the dumbasses on cops. So you support there right to flaunt the flag because you have a good excuse. This is just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt or sit on a telephone pole and spin.
Fvck the confederate flag. They lost its over.
Fvck the confederate flag. They lost its over.
That isn't logical, the South precipitated the war by leaving the Union to keep slavery, the Union was fighting to restore the Union, not end slavery.
But that doesn't mean slavery isn't the reason for the war.
"While that was an issue, it went much deeper. It is simplistic and PC nonsense to say slavery alone was the cause. There was a huge cultural and economic gap between the industrializing north, and largely agrarian south."
I think it's PC nonsense that people don't like to admit that an abomination like slavery is one of the foundations of our country, the whole country benefited from it, not just the South. But the time came when the people who benefitted from it most directly, became fearful that their world was going to have to change, so the tried to protect it by leaving the Union, which was unacceptable to the rest of the Union.
edit- and additionally, the reason for the cultural and economic gap you describe, was also slavery.
I think it's PC nonsense that people don't like to admit that an abomination like slavery is one of the foundations of our country, the whole country benefited from it, not just the South. But the time came when the people who benefitted from it most directly, became fearful that their world was going to have to change, so the tried to protect it by leaving the Union, which was unacceptable to the rest of the Union.
edit- and additionally, the reason for the cultural and economic gap you describe, was also slavery.
We've already discussed how slavery does not necessarily equate to the Confederate flag. The Civil War, like most wars, are fought over power and the economy...at least, the economy aspect of it helped to instigate it. Slavery was not the main reason why the south suceeded from the union--though the differences in how the north and south viewed slavery were different. However, it sort of became a "slavery war" when Pres. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclaimation. Further, as time progressed, "politically correct" people have made the civil war more of a racial/slavery issue than it really was.
The confederate flag in a way does represent a heiritage. People have as much right to fly/hang that flag on their own property just as much as some skin head in Idaho has a right to hang the Nazi flag. The flag, in my opinion, represents rebellion more than heiritage. That's why I don't believe it should be flown on government properties.
I don't see the point of waving the confederate flag around, either. However there is something called the First Amendment...
The confederate flag in a way does represent a heiritage. People have as much right to fly/hang that flag on their own property just as much as some skin head in Idaho has a right to hang the Nazi flag. The flag, in my opinion, represents rebellion more than heiritage. That's why I don't believe it should be flown on government properties.
I don't see the point of waving the confederate flag around, either. However there is something called the First Amendment...
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