The Comp Sci Degree

[MadOni0n]

I'm in the process of choosing a major, and currently computer science is probably my top pick. Though i hear wages,etc. are going down due to outsourcing, can anyone working in the field currently give me their opinion on the whole situation, in addition to how the future is for comp sci majors? thanks.

 

[jtusa]

No one here works in IT.

 

[jinduy]

no i think you should be a literature major... there's plenty of money in it as literate journalists are a hot commodity

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Like anything else you have to prove that someone is better off hiring you than one of the guys sitting next to you in your classes. With outsourcing you should be prepared to prove you're the better choice than an outsourced individual.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: jtusa
No one here works in IT.

FTW!

 

[scarpent]

Do you think computers are going away any time soon. No matter how much outsourcing (outside the US) there is, there is still a need for workers here.

 

[mzkhadir]

the degree is worth what you pay for. Its comes in handy when you are applying for jobs.

 

[FrequencyX]

Compsci is somewhat doomed IMHO ... IT job market is flooded with everybody and their Grandma with a Computer science degree. And they are all fighting for the same jobs. Way too many IT people and not enough jobs.
I have also noticed that we are doing alot more for alot less compared to the IT boom. Some cases programmers are making only 25000 a year. Not worth it I think... Ditch the Compsci and go for something along the lines of Business or Business Administration

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: FrequencyX
Compsci is somewhat doomed IMHO ... IT job market is flooded with everybody and their Grandma with a Computer science degree. And they are all fighting for the same jobs. Way too many IT people and not enough jobs.
I have also noticed that we are doing alot more for alot less compared to the IT boom. Some cases programmers are making only 25000 a year. Not worth it I think... Ditch the Compsci and go for something along the lines of Business or Business Administration

General business degrees are a waste.

 

[Joemonkey]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

Originally posted by: jtusa
No one here "works" in IT.

FTW!

Fixed!

 

[Pepsei]

i'm so entrenched here that i 'm safe for a bit.

 

[FrequencyX]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: FrequencyX
Compsci is somewhat doomed IMHO ... IT job market is flooded with everybody and their Grandma with a Computer science degree. And they are all fighting for the same jobs. Way too many IT people and not enough jobs.
I have also noticed that we are doing alot more for alot less compared to the IT boom. Some cases programmers are making only 25000 a year. Not worth it I think... Ditch the Compsci and go for something along the lines of Business or Business Administration

General business degrees are a waste.

Not quite according to MSN Money

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CollegeandFamily/Savingforcollege/P59866.asp

Have any other ideas for a degree of study instead of just trolling?

 

[jinduy]

Originally posted by: FrequencyX

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: FrequencyX
Compsci is somewhat doomed IMHO ... IT job market is flooded with everybody and their Grandma with a Computer science degree. And they are all fighting for the same jobs. Way too many IT people and not enough jobs.
I have also noticed that we are doing alot more for alot less compared to the IT boom. Some cases programmers are making only 25000 a year. Not worth it I think... Ditch the Compsci and go for something along the lines of Business or Business Administration

General business degrees are a waste.

Not quite according to MSN Money

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CollegeandFamily/Savingforcollege/P59866.asp

Have any other ideas for a degree of study instead of just trolling?

based on what i hear from friends and others who have obtained business (or related degrees, ie econ, finance, accounting) in the LA area... starting entry level salary hovers around the $35K range... this is for a bachelor's of course... I think getting an MBA is a whole different story.

 

[MadOni0n]

well i didnt know how to word the title, and yes i obviously know alot of people on these forums would be in computer related fields.. but i was just asking for some opinions, i need to choose my major soon and i thought i could get some sound advise.

 

[FoBoT]

most companies are going to stop using computers soon and switch back to pencil/paper and typewriters

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Marked for later reading.

 

[MadOni0n]

great

 

[ManSnake]

Computers have no future, Walmart is the future!

 

[BigJ]

As long as you're good, you'll always have a job. It may not be for as much money as you'd like, but you won't be that bad off.

 

[MadOni0n]

thanks..

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
most companies are going to stop using computers soon and switch back to pencil/paper and typewriters

:Q

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: MadOni0n
how is the current and future job market, and overall view on the IT fields from your perspective? I'm interested in majoring in Comp Sci. Is there still money to be made by working in the USA or is outsourcing becoming very big lately? overall, is the comp sci degree worth it?

your initial problem is that your considering a career in IT with an education in Comp Sci.
Hell, why dont you consider a career as a journalist with a degree in mathematics...


There are IT programs at IT schools which teach you IT skills for an IT career.
Learning to program in a comp sci program, prepares you for a career in software engineering... A code pounder.

 

[MadOni0n]

fixed it

 

[Armitage]

My advice is to get a degree in another field and a minor and/or alot of experience in compsci. There are lots of compsci people who can write you nice code if you spell out the problem for them in small words, or if the domain is compsci. My guess is these are the jobs most vulnerable to outsourcing. Having the domain knowledge in another field to hit the ground running is a big plus.

I know this is very true in engineering - lots of engineers that can't code, lots of coders who don't know the engineering. You either look hard for somebody that knows both, or spend alot of time trying speak the others language.

edit: yes I know there is alot more to compsci then just writing code.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Armitage
My advice is to get a degree in another field and a minor and/or alot of experience in compsci. There are lots of compsci people who can write you nice code if you spell out the problem for them in small words, or if the domain is compsci. My guess is these are the jobs most vulnerable to outsourcing. Having the domain knowledge in another field to hit the ground running is a big plus.

I know this is very true in engineering - lots of engineers that can't code, lots of coders who don't know the engineering. You either look hard for somebody that knows both, or spend alot of time trying speak the others language.

edit: yes I know there is alot more to compsci then just writing code.

finally something that makes sence.