The Cognitive Decline Disinformation Campaign Being Launched Against Biden

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ondma

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It means don't let Trump direct the conversation, which is what this topic is all about.
Much easier said than done, either in the campaign in general or in the debates. That is why the Democrats need someone who can express himself better than Biden (whatever are his issues).
 

sandorski

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It means don't let Trump direct the conversation, which is what this topic is all about.

The conversation exists because there is an issue. Don't expect that putting your head in the sand to Win the Presidency.
 

fskimospy

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Yes, and the republicans very effectively turned the impeachments hearings into an attack on Hunter Biden and Joe and branded it as "poor Donald is being persecuted again."
Anyone who thinks the Republicans will not use Biden's gaffes and Barisma effectively against him is just sticking their head in the sand.

Yeah I'm not sure how effective that was considering a majority of Americans wants Trump removed from office and an even larger majority think he abused the office for personal gain.
 

HomerJS

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Yes, and the republicans very effectively turned the impeachments hearings into an attack on Hunter Biden and Joe and branded it as "poor Donald is being persecuted again."
Anyone who thinks the Republicans will not use Biden's gaffes and Barisma effectively against him is just sticking their head in the sand.
That's why Hunter needs to step up to the plate for his old man. Do an interview with Chris Wallace. He will be fair in questioning and has the added benefit of blunting the usual Fox News noise.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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I know someone who didn't read the Mueller report.



"Fake news" right? Seriously, why don't you just put a fucking red hat on already and book a room in Trump hotel...
 
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sandorski

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The conversation exists because you let Trump make it an issue. See how that works?

This was being discussed way back in August, by Democratic Presidential Candidates themselves. Trump did not invent it. The conversation exists, because it is an issue.
 

ondma

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The conversation exists because you let Trump make it an issue. See how that works?
This comment makes no sense. Certainly Trump and the republicans are the ones who will make this into an issue. That does not mean it will not have an effect. They made Hillary's e-mails and Benghazi into issues that were very effective against her.
 

ivwshane

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This comment makes no sense. Certainly Trump and the republicans are the ones who will make this into an issue. That does not mean it will not have an effect. They made Hillary's e-mails and Benghazi into issues that were very effective against her.

Yes and idiots on the democrat side played into their hands like you are doing now.

Again, it’s like people learned nothing from 2016.
 
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mect

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I think you got close, but missed the mark. Inequality was dropping for a long time in the US, and as such 'some people' (non-whites) were getting close to being on the same tier as everyone else, which made the 'everyone else' (racist whites) feel like their position in life was lowering. All it takes a that point is a little 'make your life greater again' talk from a populist person that quacks like them, and racism flags start flying.

I disagree that a primary driving factor for the increase in racism was minorities closing the income gap with Caucasians, at least until recently when it was used as a diversion away from the issue of wealth inequality. If you look at the timing of events, I would argue that racism in this country was declining along with declining wealth inequality for several decades, until Reagan's policies started to go into effect. This is the time when the wealthy started lobbying for trickle down economics and massive tax cuts for the wealthy as a win win that would benefit everyone. It took a few decades, but people eventually started to realize that the profits weren't actually trickling down, with the lower and middle income families stuck with stagnant wages while the wealth at the top was accumulating. It was at this point where the fake populists started to blame the people of color, and the racism started ramping up.
 

mect

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One thing I will say as a strong Sanders supporter, it is time for Sanders to drop out. I'm disappointed, as I don't think Biden is much better than your average republican candidate. However, he is a little better than an average republican, and he is far and away better than Trump.

Sanders and his supporters had their chance. The young people didn't go out and vote. If they aren't willing to vote, then they need to accept that they don't get a say in the process. It disappoints me, but at the same time it is what it is. Biden's mental health is irrelevant at this point. Its better than Trump's. Its time to do the best we have with what Americans will give us. If the youth don't want a fucked up planet, they have to actually show up to vote, not just demonstrate in the streets.
 
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Blackjack200

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I know someone who didn't read the Mueller report.



"Fake news" right? Seriously, why don't you just put a fucking red hat on already and book a room in Trump hotel...

QAnon liberals think the Mueller report is some kind of cheat code that proves all their wild theories. With respect to Sanders, the report refers to a single internal document, which it claims included the statement ""Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump - we support them)." Note that the document has never been produced.

It also refers to a single troll account (@MissouriNews) with 3,800 followers that it claims posted pro-Sanders material on Twitter.

That's it. That's the evidence.
 

zinfamous

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I feel bad for Biden. I was laughing a few days ago and the more videos I've seen I've changed my opinion. I now feel sorry for him and feel bad that I ever laughed about it. The guy is in the beginning or middle stages of Alzheimer's or something. I can't believe they are running him out there to be the presidential candidate.

Still more cognizant than Trump, so as low as we've set the bar already, it's fine.
 

HomerJS

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This comment makes no sense. Certainly Trump and the republicans are the ones who will make this into an issue. That does not mean it will not have an effect. They made Hillary's e-mails and Benghazi into issues that were very effective against her.
Just keep playing this. Make it moot
 

Maxima1

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Except we do not. We're concerned that the word "socialism" doesn't play well to the electorate, particularly high propensity older voters. It has nothing to do with actual policy. It has to do with optics, and beating Trump.

Maybe not you but concern over him praising aspects of Communist regimes is hardly the only attack on him. And unlike the grievance about "Bernie Bros", which is just about schmucks on the internet, this goes up to the Democratic leadership and their pals on the MSM.

“I'm a Democrat," Cuellar said Tuesday. "I think it would be difficult to have a socialist at the top of the ticket. I think he clarifies it and says 'a democratic socialist,' but a socialist is a socialist, whether it's Republican socialist or democratic socialist, if there is such a thing.

“I’m not a socialist. I’m thinking about printing T-shirts saying as much. I think socialist economic policies fail, inevitably,” said Rose, another Bloomberg backer.

“I will support Bernie Sanders if he is nominated against Donald Trump; I will do so enthusiastically,” Peters told The Hill on Tuesday, while adding “I don’t think … putting a socialist on the ballot is a good strategy to defeat Donald Trump.”


Funny, I never noticed anyone having a pet name for a candidate that was clipped from Trump and Breitbart, except for Sanders supporters. Like you. I find it hilarious that you try to "both sides" me by turning this into a pissing contest over who uses Trumpian talking points, and in so doing, you call her "Broom Hilda." Guess where you can find that? Hint: You didn't invent it. You guys repeat these things without even realizing you're doing it.

I've personally never used a Trump talking point in relation to Sanders. And while I surely haven't read every post here, I can't recall anyone else doing it either. Not once.

I can imagine if you're in lockstep with the party, you won't have negative nicknames for them, but I'm not in lockstep with Bernie either. Relax.

I've seen plenty here argue "He's not even a Democrat", which I'm assuming is an attack on his policies being fringe/radical (i.e. not aligned with the Democrats)/ Socialist vs. Democrat. Nobody here saying that would have cared if he was Independent yet had Biden politics.
 

Jhhnn

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Maybe not you but concern over him praising aspects of Communist regimes is hardly the only attack on him. And unlike the grievance about "Bernie Bros", which is just about schmucks on the internet, this goes up to the Democratic leadership and their pals on the MSM.

“I'm a Democrat," Cuellar said Tuesday. "I think it would be difficult to have a socialist at the top of the ticket. I think he clarifies it and says 'a democratic socialist,' but a socialist is a socialist, whether it's Republican socialist or democratic socialist, if there is such a thing.

“I’m not a socialist. I’m thinking about printing T-shirts saying as much. I think socialist economic policies fail, inevitably,” said Rose, another Bloomberg backer.

“I will support Bernie Sanders if he is nominated against Donald Trump; I will do so enthusiastically,” Peters told The Hill on Tuesday, while adding “I don’t think … putting a socialist on the ballot is a good strategy to defeat Donald Trump.”




I can imagine if you're in lockstep with the party, you won't have negative nicknames for them, but I'm not in lockstep with Bernie either. Relax.

I've seen plenty here argue "He's not even a Democrat", which I'm assuming is an attack on his policies being fringe/radical (i.e. not aligned with the Democrats)/ Socialist vs. Democrat. Nobody here saying that would have cared if he was Independent yet had Biden politics.

Yeh, it's obvious that you're just concern trolling.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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QAnon liberals think the Mueller report is some kind of cheat code that proves all their wild theories. With respect to Sanders, the report refers to a single internal document, which it claims included the statement ""Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump - we support them)." Note that the document has never been produced.

It also refers to a single troll account (@MissouriNews) with 3,800 followers that it claims posted pro-Sanders material on Twitter.

That's it. That's the evidence.
That isn't a refutation, its just gainsaying -- "Fake news," like I predicted. Not to mention it is stunningly ignorant of the wider social media environment, where even Sanders has suggested that his dickwad BernieBro troll army is really just a bunch of Russian bots, i.e. a coordinated campaign by Russia to boost his campaign and attack his rivals.

When are you ordering your MAGA hat?
 

JEDIYoda

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That isn't a refutation, its just gainsaying -- "Fake news," like I predicted. Not to mention it is stunningly ignorant of the wider social media environment, where even Sanders has suggested that his dickwad BernieBro troll army is really just a bunch of Russian bots, i.e. a coordinated campaign by Russia to boost his campaign and attack his rivals.

When are you ordering your MAGA hat?
Ordering....he is selling them.....get your MAGA Hat for a donation of $19.99 at www.BlackJack200/MAGAHats.com
 

Moonbeam

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Again, the debate between Biden and Trump should make the distinction. Do you not agree?
Can I butt in and say I wouldn’t. I expect to see a nice old man struggling to explain complicated facts about reality beyond the grasp of the average American go up against a psychopathic liar that will tell people exactly what they want to hear, and that’s if he hasn’t already managed to convince the rubes he has no need to participate in a fake news debate.

Meanwhile all of the rational people will be looking on seething with impotent rage. That’s why Sanders should be the one up there pointing that Sanders finger burning Trump down with contempt.
I know someone who didn't read the Mueller report.



"Fake news" right? Seriously, why don't you just put a fucking red hat on already and book a room in Trump hotel...
Jesus Christ, the Russians would support God for President of the United States if they thought He would destroy this country.
 
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