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BUTCH1

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Tell you something though, the prices are tumbling but what about the quality?. Just finished my 1st Ryzen build, bought a Kingston 250GB SSD, already had a Kingston 120 GB from 2012 but at just $24, why not?. The 2012 Kingston is much beefier in construction with a metal enclosure along with the 3.5 bay adapter that came with it. The new one is 100% plastic and shipped in a cardboard fold-up card, we'll see how long it lasts.
 
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BUTCH1

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Is there really a huge difference in day to day use between an NVMe or SATA 3 drive?.
 
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Depends on work load. For average user (office/games) probably not; photo/video editing might see some benefits if frequent loads of large images. The thing is that many consumers images/videos aren't that large but as we move into 4k and near 100mp cameras it becomes more common.

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Is there really a huge difference in day to day use between an NVMe or SATA 3 drive?.
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BUTCH1

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you2 said:
Depends on work load. For average user (office/games) probably not; photo/video editing might see some benefits if frequent loads of large images. The thing is that many consumers images/videos aren't that large but as we move into 4k and near 100mp cameras it becomes more common.
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Oh, OK, this new Ryzen build I just got going supports these drives, but it was unclear to me what the advantage was.
 
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BUTCH1 said:
Oh, OK, this new Ryzen build I just got going supports these drives, but it was unclear to me what the advantage was.
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Sata 3 maxs out at 600MB/s; nvme maxs out at 2GB/s (also can support more IOP/s); as to whether you can get anywhere close to that performance depends on the specific drive and chipset. Some of the newer nvme sata will do significantly better than 1GB/s but they are expensive (or more expensive). Many of the sata drives might get close to 600MB/s for read but are significantly slower for writes.
 
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Mr. Meat, sir, is that a PCI-E 4.0 drive? If so, that's clearly the cheapest 1TB 4.0 x4 NVMe drive that I've seen yet. Most have been in the $230+ range.

"Requires PCIe 4 for best performance"

Yes, it appears that it is! Includes a beefy heatsink, too, from the pics. Nice find, thanks!

Although, to be honestly, I'm starting to be on the fence about the real-world performance benefits of PCI-E 4.0 NVMe. I realize, for benchmarks, it's faster, but I am uncertain if the latency is any better, and therefore, if the QD1 results would be any better, either.

This current PC I'm on, has 2x 1TB 660p PCI-E 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs in RAID-0. It's smooth, but honestly, in browsing and desktop activities, I really can't quite tell all that much of a difference between them, and my 240GB TLC SATA6G SSD in my other rig. It benches a heck of a lot higher, but ... benches aren't always everything.
 
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VirtualLarry said:
Mr. Meat, sir, is that a PCI-E 4.0 drive? If so, that's clearly the cheapest 1TB 4.0 x4 NVMe drive that I've seen yet. Most have been in the $230+ range.

"Requires PCIe 4 for best performance"

Yes, it appears that it is! Includes a beefy heatsink, too, from the pics. Nice find, thanks!

Although, to be honestly, I'm starting to be on the fence about the real-world performance benefits of PCI-E 4.0 NVMe. I realize, for benchmarks, it's faster, but I am uncertain if the latency is any better, and therefore, if the QD1 results would be any better, either.

This current PC I'm on, has 2x 1TB 660p PCI-E 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs in RAID-0. It's smooth, but honestly, in browsing and desktop activities, I really can't quite tell all that much of a difference between them, and my 240GB TLC SATA6G SSD in my other rig. It benches a heck of a lot higher, but ... benches aren't always everything.
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Same here, I want something like above for nerd purposes but reality is I likely won’t like dealing with the heat generated but this & a X570 board to gain some unnoticeable real world performance.
I’d probably be better served by using a 2TB ssd
 
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I would get this.

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I would but that drive is $114 CDN for me. I checked Newegg.ca and it's still $72 + $16 shipping, both of which make it more expensive than the Crucial MX500. I just want a cheap games drive that's bigger than my current 250GB MX500. I may just get the Teamgroup GX2 512GB one for $54 CDN depending on what happens with prices tomorrow.
 
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BUTCH1

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Wondering what is the expected life of these newer drives utilizing 3D Nand technology. My 2012 Kingston is still running fine. 129Gb for $150 and it was a bargain at the time.
 
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Craig234

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I remember ordering a Samsung EVO, seeing I had a choice SATA or m.2, what the hell is m.2, some searching got advice of 'doesn't matter' so I got the SATA, later learned the m.2 is a lot faster... I wouldn't mind getting a 1TB m.2 to add if good quality and a very good deal on this cyber Monday...
 
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Craig234 said:
I remember ordering a Samsung EVO, seeing I had a choice SATA or m.2, what the hell is m.2, some searching got advice of 'doesn't matter' so I got the SATA, later learned the m.2 is a lot faster... I wouldn't mind getting a 1TB m.2 to add if good quality and a very good deal on this cyber Monday...
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A 2.5" Samsung 860 EVO is the same as the SATA M.2 version of it.

It's NVMe (PCIe) drives like the 970 EVO that are much faster. M.2 is just the form factor/connection, and most support both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs.
 
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Craig234

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UsandThem said:
A 2.5" Samsung 860 EVO is the same as the SATA M.2 version of it.

It's NVMe (PCIe) drives like the 970 EVO that are much faster. M.2 is just the form factor/connection, and most support both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs.
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Thanks for the info. Learn something new again.

Now to find out if my motherboard can do the 'NVMe'... (ASRock Z97 Extreme6)
 
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