Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This is the first time I've watched him, so far I fail to see why people give him so much sh!t. Lots of people aren't great public speakers, you'd be hard pressed to get me up there in the first place.
So far though he's doing just fine.
Viper GTS
He's had nearly 4 years to practice...on the job training.
Originally posted by: deejayshakur
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This is the first time I've watched him, so far I fail to see why people give him so much sh!t. Lots of people aren't great public speakers, you'd be hard pressed to get me up there in the first place.
So far though he's doing just fine.
Viper GTS
He's had nearly 4 years to practice...on the job training.
this was exactly what was going thru my mind as i watched it. even coco the gorilla could get it right in 4 years.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Bush hit a homerun. Miller and Bush went back to back.
Originally posted by: Balt
When you are numbskulls (conservative and liberal alike) gonna get it through your heads.
This is not the P&N forum.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Yes, Clinton was impeached. 30 years ago that would have meant something, but not in today's world of sliding morals and apathy.
It would have meant something if he wasn't acquitted.
And he wouldn't have been acquitted if people actually had morals and cared about lying under oath.
And he wouldn't have been impeached it Republicans didn't control the house.
Originally posted by: Lovepig
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Yes, Clinton was impeached. 30 years ago that would have meant something, but not in today's world of sliding morals and apathy.
It would have meant something if he wasn't acquitted.
And he wouldn't have been acquitted if people actually had morals and cared about lying under oath.
And he wouldn't have been impeached it Republicans didn't control the house.
Only because the Dem's would have lied and covered for him. Claerly not because he was innocent.... right?
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Lovepig
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Yes, Clinton was impeached. 30 years ago that would have meant something, but not in today's world of sliding morals and apathy.
It would have meant something if he wasn't acquitted.
And he wouldn't have been acquitted if people actually had morals and cared about lying under oath.
And he wouldn't have been impeached it Republicans didn't control the house.
Only because the Dem's would have lied and covered for him. Claerly not because he was innocent.... right?
Majority of Americans were against impeachment. Get over it.
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Lovepig
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Yes, Clinton was impeached. 30 years ago that would have meant something, but not in today's world of sliding morals and apathy.
It would have meant something if he wasn't acquitted.
And he wouldn't have been acquitted if people actually had morals and cared about lying under oath.
And he wouldn't have been impeached it Republicans didn't control the house.
Only because the Dem's would have lied and covered for him. Claerly not because he was innocent.... right?
Majority of Americans were against impeachment. Get over it.
Majority of Americans are apathetic and ignorant and dont' care about anything but themselves.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So you are saying they didn't want to impeach Clinton because his presidency was good for them?
Oh, but they did care. If I remember in exess of 60% were against impeachment.Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So you are saying they didn't want to impeach Clinton because his presidency was good for them?
No, I'm saying people didn't care whether Clinton was impeached or not (except for the soap-opera-like drama) so long as life was still good for them.
I said so myself. I really don't care. I don't even care who my uncle is screwing, much less the president. My name is not Hillary.How many people did you know that said, "I dont' care if the president is having affairs or getting a BJ in office, so long as the economy is good." ? I heard that more times than I can recall.
Reality happened?What happened to wanting your leader to be a role model for the country? To wanting your leader to put forth a positive image of your country to the rest of the world? What happens to a country that tells the rest of the world that it doesn't care that it's leader lies to his people?
OMG think of the children. No I don't care. It's not like they didn't know about sex until Clinton. Teenage pregnancies went down in his 8 years, if I recall correctly. Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde, and Newt Gingrich are better role models?So much you hear about pride in America and being patriotic. But if you were truly patriotic and had pride in this country, wouldn't you want your leader to set a good model for your children and the future generation?
Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
My problem with Bush is that the only good things people ever have to say about him are that he's a straight shooter, has strong moral character, and he's a christian. I don't care about his morals, or that he's a christian, I don't care how he thinks in his private life. I just want him to do a good job...which I don't think he has done. He's straight up incompetent and lets his personal biases completely dictate his leadership. The mark of a great leader is doing what's good for this country despite what you personally think and despite your personal biases. He can't put aside his personal agendas and that makes him a really sh1tty president in my opinion.
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Oh, but they did care. If I remember in exess of 60% were against impeachment.Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So you are saying they didn't want to impeach Clinton because his presidency was good for them?
No, I'm saying people didn't care whether Clinton was impeached or not (except for the soap-opera-like drama) so long as life was still good for them.
I do agree that life was good back then.
I said so myself. I really don't care. I don't even care who my uncle is screwing, much less the president. My name is not Hillary.How many people did you know that said, "I dont' care if the president is having affairs or getting a BJ in office, so long as the economy is good." ? I heard that more times than I can recall.
Reality happened?What happened to wanting your leader to be a role model for the country? To wanting your leader to put forth a positive image of your country to the rest of the world? What happens to a country that tells the rest of the world that it doesn't care that it's leader lies to his people?![]()
OMG think of the children. No I don't care. It's not like they didn't know about sex until Clinton. Teenage pregnancies went down in his 8 years, if I recall correctly. Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde, and Newt Gingrich are better role models?So much you hear about pride in America and being patriotic. But if you were truly patriotic and had pride in this country, wouldn't you want your leader to set a good model for your children and the future generation?
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Oh, but they did care. If I remember in exess of 60% were against impeachment.Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So you are saying they didn't want to impeach Clinton because his presidency was good for them?
No, I'm saying people didn't care whether Clinton was impeached or not (except for the soap-opera-like drama) so long as life was still good for them.
I do agree that life was good back then.
I said so myself. I really don't care. I don't even care who my uncle is screwing, much less the president. My name is not Hillary.How many people did you know that said, "I dont' care if the president is having affairs or getting a BJ in office, so long as the economy is good." ? I heard that more times than I can recall.
Reality happened?What happened to wanting your leader to be a role model for the country? To wanting your leader to put forth a positive image of your country to the rest of the world? What happens to a country that tells the rest of the world that it doesn't care that it's leader lies to his people?![]()
OMG think of the children. No I don't care. It's not like they didn't know about sex until Clinton. Teenage pregnancies went down in his 8 years, if I recall correctly. Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde, and Newt Gingrich are better role models?So much you hear about pride in America and being patriotic. But if you were truly patriotic and had pride in this country, wouldn't you want your leader to set a good model for your children and the future generation?
Thank you for illustrating the kind of selfishness and short-sightedness that can be expected from the average American.
Originally posted by: desiplaya4life
all i saw was IDIOTS cheering for the monkey... we know and i know whos the real deal and that is JOHN KERRY
Originally posted by: Shockwave
That was his best speech ever. If the rest of his campaign goes that way, hes in.
And Shockwave was happy.
I also think this thread needs to be renamed....![]()
