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ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: joedrake
:roll: Because the immigrants do SO much to you

did you ever stop and considering how much money will go to roughly 13 million people in terms of healthcare and public schooling? that's a lot.....

Yeah, cause they don't pay taxes and stuff. Or actually, the vast majority do...

As a group they don't pay in proportion to the government services they consume. When you consider healthcare/welfare/education/prison inmantes as a group they have an overall net negative affect on the US economy. Everyone is suffering so a few can profit off of cheap labor.

Prove it.
Here's a start. Text

Another. Text

Wake up.

I don't see anything in either thread or article proving that Hispanics don't pay taxes. And I'm not talking about just sales or gas taxes, either.

You told him to prove whether or not they have a negative total impact on the economy and he did so. You didn't ask for proof of whether or not they pay taxes.
I think that all of the low income/no income families do have an overall negative impact on the economy, unfortunately that will always be the burden of us as a country. So this doesn't prove anything. Are we running up unprecedented deficits as a result of illegals? are towns, cities, and municipalities in financial trouble as a result of illegals? Are illegals the cause of all of our economic problems of today? Are we really that bad off because of 12 million illegals in this country? how much more a year am I paying in taxes in order to provide illegals with healthcare and food stamps? I am curious to see how the figures factors into the overall costs of our social programs, ie, what percentage of the pie is the illegals compared to your run-of-the-mill poor American family. I guess that is another thread though..

My point is this.

We have seen this before, amnesty was the solution then, and I am sure there was quite an uproar over amnesty back then as there is now. But the alternatives just aren't feasible. No one is going to build a wall on our borders, no governor is going to want to pay the national guard anymore then they already have to in order to increase border patrols. You cannot flood our prison systems with illegals (again more $$) and you cannot, "ship them all back to where they belong." That would require waaaaaaayy more of a logistical nightmare than anyone cares to admit. People in the United States are protected by due process, meaning, you have to prove they are illegal before you can "ship them back."

It is a cycle that our economy relies upon, we grant amnesty, low wages are boosted, a whole new crop of illegals enter into our economy, the beat goes on...


But INS does this everyday, so I see this as being more expensive on an ongoing basis. So why not tackle it now and get it over with. To me put the money into fighting this problem now.. versus bleeding out our resources yearly fighting it. I dunno just playing devils advocate here.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i am actually in favor of immediately deploying the national guard to the southern border

small walls are probably needed in urban areas, but for the rural parts of the border, i favor national guard troops and unmanned spy planes

we could put 20,000 national guard on that board in 15 days? maybe 30 days max

we have already done it with Marines and Army a few times in the past... its not enough we need a wall seperating the countries becasue there is too much land to cover..
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
my point is lost on you, try not to be so shrill. I am not disagreeing with you, they broke the law. But the penalty you all are trying to impose does not fit the crime. a federal felony is an appropriate charge for someone that committs murder or rape, not for someone who enters our country illegally. At the most yes they deserve to be shipped back but we don't need to put them in jail, or in front of a firing squad, or build a wall, or belittle them for wanting a better life for themselves and their families.

oh and btw- the reason there will be no brick wall, or national guardsmen is because of money. MONEY. You are all living a pipe dream, but that doesn't stop you from coming across like bigots. Good job.

Is this lost on you? If we lock down the border and have legal immigration, how many criminals will we weed out and KEEP OUT.

Here are some statistics from the Los Angeles Times:

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.

75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.

Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.

Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.

The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.

Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.

21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.

More statistics:

Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.

Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.

29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.

They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!

A new figure from yesterday: It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens.
I am so tired of seeing these numbers. Stats can be viewed any which way you want, for example:

"Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare." which implies that 71 percent of illegals are not on welfare.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages. which implies that approximately 11,700,000 illegals don't live in garages. :p

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? which implies that 60 percent of all illegal workers are paying taxes.

LOL! need I go further?

oh and btw- help me out here, I am trying to find the article in the LA times that cites these figures, do you have a link?

Oh my God, your an IDIOT.
There shouldnt be ANY illegals on welfare!! Play with stats all you want, NOT ONE ILLEGAL should be on welfare!
And dont get me started on tghe crime stats.

I have no link to LA Times where the data came from.


There is no point in arguing with the TRUE racists on this issue. They are the ones blinded by the color or one's skin. The defeated mind cries racism when they have nothing of substance to bring to the argument. That is how they polarize this issue while avoiding the realities. Luckily this time around the issue has been brought to the attention of the whole country and people who were clueless about the true impact of illegals have had their eyes opened for the first time. I encourage the illegals and their supporters to shout from the mountaintops and protest all they want.....it only hurts their position.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
my point is lost on you, try not to be so shrill. I am not disagreeing with you, they broke the law. But the penalty you all are trying to impose does not fit the crime. a federal felony is an appropriate charge for someone that committs murder or rape, not for someone who enters our country illegally. At the most yes they deserve to be shipped back but we don't need to put them in jail, or in front of a firing squad, or build a wall, or belittle them for wanting a better life for themselves and their families.

oh and btw- the reason there will be no brick wall, or national guardsmen is because of money. MONEY. You are all living a pipe dream, but that doesn't stop you from coming across like bigots. Good job.

Is this lost on you? If we lock down the border and have legal immigration, how many criminals will we weed out and KEEP OUT.

Here are some statistics from the Los Angeles Times:

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.

75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.

Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.

Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.

The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.

Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.

21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.

More statistics:

Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.

Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.

29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.

They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!

A new figure from yesterday: It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens.
I am so tired of seeing these numbers. Stats can be viewed any which way you want, for example:

"Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare." which implies that 71 percent of illegals are not on welfare.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages. which implies that approximately 11,700,000 illegals don't live in garages. :p

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? which implies that 60 percent of all illegal workers are paying taxes.

LOL! need I go further?

oh and btw- help me out here, I am trying to find the article in the LA times that cites these figures, do you have a link?

Oh my God, your an IDIOT.
There shouldnt be ANY illegals on welfare!! Play with stats all you want, NOT ONE ILLEGAL should be on welfare!
And dont get me started on tghe crime stats.

I have no link to LA Times where the data came from.


There is no point in arguing with the TRUE racists on this issue. They are the ones blinded by the color or one's skin. The defeated mind cries racism when they have nothing of substance to bring to the argument. That is how they polarize this issue while avoiding the realities. Luckily this time around the issue has been brought to the attention of the whole country and people who were clueless about the true impact of illegals have had their eyes opened for the first time. I encourage the illegals and their supporters to shout from the mountaintops and protest all they want.....it only hurts their position.
I am racist?! oh that is funny.

here is my reality as I see it, feel free to argue a better scenario. As I stated above:

oh and btw- the reason there will be no brick wall, or national guardsmen is because of money. MONEY. You are all living a pipe dream, but that doesn't stop you from coming across like bigots. Good job.

now please share with me your reality.

your post is funny, I'll give you that.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Sep 26, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
my point is lost on you, try not to be so shrill. I am not disagreeing with you, they broke the law. But the penalty you all are trying to impose does not fit the crime. a federal felony is an appropriate charge for someone that committs murder or rape, not for someone who enters our country illegally. At the most yes they deserve to be shipped back but we don't need to put them in jail, or in front of a firing squad, or build a wall, or belittle them for wanting a better life for themselves and their families.

oh and btw- the reason there will be no brick wall, or national guardsmen is because of money. MONEY. You are all living a pipe dream, but that doesn't stop you from coming across like bigots. Good job.

Is this lost on you? If we lock down the border and have legal immigration, how many criminals will we weed out and KEEP OUT.

Here are some statistics from the Los Angeles Times:

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? They would be able to start bringing the rest of their families to the USA.

75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.

Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.

Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.

The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.

Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.

21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.

More statistics:

Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.

Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.

29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.

They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!

A new figure from yesterday: It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens.
I am so tired of seeing these numbers. Stats can be viewed any which way you want, for example:

"Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare." which implies that 71 percent of illegals are not on welfare.

Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages. which implies that approximately 11,700,000 illegals don't live in garages. :p

40 percent of all workers are working for cash and not paying taxes. Why would they want to be legal and pay taxes? which implies that 60 percent of all illegal workers are paying taxes.

LOL! need I go further?

oh and btw- help me out here, I am trying to find the article in the LA times that cites these figures, do you have a link?

Oh my God, your an IDIOT.
There shouldnt be ANY illegals on welfare!! Play with stats all you want, NOT ONE ILLEGAL should be on welfare!
And dont get me started on tghe crime stats.

I have no link to LA Times where the data came from.


There is no point in arguing with the TRUE racists on this issue. They are the ones blinded by the color or one's skin. The defeated mind cries racism when they have nothing of substance to bring to the argument. That is how they polarize this issue while avoiding the realities. Luckily this time around the issue has been brought to the attention of the whole country and people who were clueless about the true impact of illegals have had their eyes opened for the first time. I encourage the illegals and their supporters to shout from the mountaintops and protest all they want.....it only hurts their position.



I think that the statement that was made about not having illegal immigrants not benefit from welfare is a fair statement and not a racist one. Logically it is unfair for someone from another country to come to this country illegally and expect to be supported financially. New Zealand, Austria, Australia and other like countries have harsher restrictions for entering their countries and will not support any illegal immigrant regardless of color or what country you come from. If you go to any of their websites to see what is required for you to be allowed to live in their country you will find that you have to have no criminal record whatsoever, and have a certain amount of college education, also you must prove to those countries that you can be a productive citizen and make a living with a minimum amount of income required. Here in the US. we are by far very lax when it comes to allowing people from other countries to enter our borders and become legal citizens. On top of that we have been way to easy allowing illegal immigrants to benefit from our welfare programs. You won't find that in most other countries. Does that make these other countries and their citizens racist?
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: joedrake
:roll: Because the immigrants do SO much to you

did you ever stop and considering how much money will go to roughly 13 million people in terms of healthcare and public schooling? that's a lot.....

Yeah, cause they don't pay taxes and stuff. Or actually, the vast majority do...

As a group they don't pay in proportion to the government services they consume. When you consider healthcare/welfare/education/prison inmantes as a group they have an overall net negative affect on the US economy. Everyone is suffering so a few can profit off of cheap labor.

Prove it.
Here's a start. Text

Another. Text

Wake up.

I don't see anything in either thread or article proving that Hispanics don't pay taxes. And I'm not talking about just sales or gas taxes, either.

You told him to prove whether or not they have a negative total impact on the economy and he did so. You didn't ask for proof of whether or not they pay taxes.
I think that all of the low income/no income families do have an overall negative impact on the economy, unfortunately that will always be the burden of us as a country. So this doesn't prove anything. Are we running up unprecedented deficits as a result of illegals? are towns, cities, and municipalities in financial trouble as a result of illegals? Are illegals the cause of all of our economic problems of today? Are we really that bad off because of 12 million illegals in this country? how much more a year am I paying in taxes in order to provide illegals with healthcare and food stamps? I am curious to see how the figures factors into the overall costs of our social programs, ie, what percentage of the pie is the illegals compared to your run-of-the-mill poor American family. I guess that is another thread though..

My point is this.

We have seen this before, amnesty was the solution then, and I am sure there was quite an uproar over amnesty back then as there is now. But the alternatives just aren't feasible. No one is going to build a wall on our borders, no governor is going to want to pay the national guard anymore then they already have to in order to increase border patrols. You cannot flood our prison systems with illegals (again more $$) and you cannot, "ship them all back to where they belong." That would require waaaaaaayy more of a logistical nightmare than anyone cares to admit. People in the United States are protected by due process, meaning, you have to prove they are illegal before you can "ship them back."

It is a cycle that our economy relies upon, we grant amnesty, low wages are boosted, a whole new crop of illegals enter into our economy, the beat goes on...


But INS does this everyday, so I see this as being more expensive on an ongoing basis. So why not tackle it now and get it over with. To me put the money into fighting this problem now.. versus bleeding out our resources yearly fighting it. I dunno just playing devils advocate here.
That is a good point, but I still maintain that the status quo, ie INS "does this everyday" is...for lack of a better word...more attractive to our government than building walls, and arming the military on our borders. You have to ask for money for these "solutions." and where is that going to come from??

Our government operates on the status quo...just keep that in mind.
 

SupaDupaPan

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I really don't know what to say on this other than the fact that they're illegal. If you do something illegal you should be punished for it.

My husband, who is latino, has a cousin who is here illegally. And every so often, when he wants a free ride back, he calls INS on himself and they well, give him a free ride back. And no, he doesn't pay taxes or anything like that because when he works, he gets paid under the table or works for family, which, pays him under the table.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte


They also send between about $15 billion back to Mexico to assist their families and prop up the corrupt Mexican government that keeps most of its citizens in poverty. How about a revolt in their own country!

I don't think just the illegal hispanic immigrants are guilty of this....
 

CVSiN

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wah wah wah... if they want to come to the US apply for a ****** visa like eveyrone else
otherwise GTFO
I say build a big ass wall with people seeking missles and machineguns and flamethrowers... that will teach em! and fill the Rio Grande with salt water and put man eating sharks with lasers beams on thier heads! and Foul Tempered Sea Bass!

yah yah try to swim across now suckers!
 

ryan256

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Originally posted by: OrByte
illegals obtain SS# illegally. Employers are not stupid enough to pay wages free and clear, so generally the wages are filed and taxed.

Yeah. So lets rationalize one illegal act as justification for commiting another.

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: ryan256
You cannot pay taxes without a Social Security Number. Illegal immigrants do not have a social security number.
/arguement


True.... however, I do have a question... alot of them have illegal or fake SS cards. So if they get employed with those fake SS cards and employers who hire them start taking taxes out based on those fake SS numbers don't those tax dollars still go to the government? Just a question folks...

Also, when these companies hire these illegal immigrants knowing full well that they have know SS cards... I guess they just pay them under the table right? No taxes being taken out of their checks? or do they just get cash directly? How does that work?

How does it work? Well I'm not sure about in Houston but here in AL you can usually find the illegals loitering around certain areas. Guy in a truck pulls up and says, "I'll pay you $25 to work for me today." Loads his truck & drives to whatever job site he's working on that day. Works them for several hours and hands each one $25 cash at the end of the day. The way taxes are avoided is simple. On paper the guy paying is the only one employed by his company. He pays himself a very high wage to offset what he then turns around and pays the illegals with.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: OrByte
illegals obtain SS# illegally. Employers are not stupid enough to pay wages free and clear, so generally the wages are filed and taxed.

Yeah. So lets rationalize one illegal act as justification for commiting another.

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: ryan256
You cannot pay taxes without a Social Security Number. Illegal immigrants do not have a social security number.
/arguement


True.... however, I do have a question... alot of them have illegal or fake SS cards. So if they get employed with those fake SS cards and employers who hire them start taking taxes out based on those fake SS numbers don't those tax dollars still go to the government? Just a question folks...

Also, when these companies hire these illegal immigrants knowing full well that they have know SS cards... I guess they just pay them under the table right? No taxes being taken out of their checks? or do they just get cash directly? How does that work?

How does it work? Well I'm not sure about in Houston but here in AL you can usually find the illegals loitering around certain areas. Guy in a truck pulls up and says, "I'll pay you $25 to work for me today." Loads his truck & drives to whatever job site he's working on that day. Works them for several hours and hands each one $25 cash at the end of the day. The way taxes are avoided is simple. On paper the guy paying is the only one employed by his company. He pays himself a very high wage to offset what he then turns around and pays the illegals with.



Aaaaaah yes, I think its the same here in Houston. Based on what you described is what a friend of mine told me his company did. He described something similar last year. I didn't think about that. I was thinking about other companies in different scenarios where they might hire someone for some other type work. Say for example a woman for maid service company, or a daycare center. Or a construction site.

Thanks for explaining.
 

Specop 007

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You know, the best solution would be to hand every illegal an SKS and 200 rounds of ammo and tell them to go fix their own country.
THEN send them back to Mexico.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
wah wah wah... if they want to come to the US apply for a ****** visa like eveyrone else
otherwise GTFO
I say build a big ass wall with people seeking missles and machineguns and flamethrowers... that will teach em! and fill the Rio Grande with salt water and put man eating sharks with lasers beams on thier heads! and Foul Tempered Sea Bass!

yah yah try to swim across now suckers!



So baby... tell us how you really feel?
 

ryan256

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: CVSiN
wah wah wah... if they want to come to the US apply for a ****** visa like eveyrone else
otherwise GTFO
I say build a big ass wall with people seeking missles and machineguns and flamethrowers... that will teach em! and fill the Rio Grande with salt water and put man eating sharks with lasers beams on thier heads! and Foul Tempered Sea Bass!

yah yah try to swim across now suckers!

So baby... tell us how you really feel?

LMAO!! Reminds me of this! :laugh:
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: OrByte

I am racist?! oh that is funny.

here is my reality as I see it, feel free to argue a better scenario. As I stated above:

oh and btw- the reason there will be no brick wall, or national guardsmen is because of money. MONEY. You are all living a pipe dream, but that doesn't stop you from coming across like bigots. Good job.

now please share with me your reality.

your post is funny, I'll give you that.

I am sorry, I really did not mean for that statement to be directed at you as it was more of a general statement and I apologize. It is just that this issue always turns into one where one who is against ILLEGAL immigration is labeled a racist or xenophobe.
 

BigToque

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And you guys wonder why the majority of the world hates you guys :roll:

Hint: it's not jealousy.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: CVSiN
wah wah wah... if they want to come to the US apply for a ****** visa like eveyrone else
otherwise GTFO
I say build a big ass wall with people seeking missles and machineguns and flamethrowers... that will teach em! and fill the Rio Grande with salt water and put man eating sharks with lasers beams on thier heads! and Foul Tempered Sea Bass!

yah yah try to swim across now suckers!

So baby... tell us how you really feel?

LMAO!! Reminds me of this! :laugh:


Bwhahahahahahahah! I love that OMFG! that was great!
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: BigToque
And you guys wonder why the majority of the world hates you guys :roll:

Hint: it's not jealousy.

yah and look at the immigration laws for 90% of the rest of the world.. the sign says GO AWAY

So eveyrone comes to the US instead cause anyone can sneak into the US and stay forever...

 

alien42

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why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue


Alien I'm a bit confused by your post. If you know people who came here legally, how could they be illegal immigrants then? Please explain.

In addition, I am sure there are many illegal immigrants who come from other countries, no doubt. However because of the very close proximity of mexico and the ease with wich the mexicans can cross our borders and hide within our country. The very fact that so many companies utilize illegal mexican immigrants specifically for low wages and work, has made the problem more prolific with illegal mexican immigrants than any other illegal immigrants coming from any other countries. Just my 02
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

You need to explain how an ILLEGAL comes here legally.....I am sure there are many on the other side of the border that would like to know that trick. I guess your friends have expired visas? If so they are no better than a border jumper. No one ever said that the only illegal immigrants are Mexican, people just tend to talk that way because the overwhelming majority are Mexican and most ARE from Latin/South American countries so a lot of people don't make the distinction properly. The issue is ILLEGAL immigrants though, their country of origin or ethnicity is irrelevant.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: BigToque
And you guys wonder why the majority of the world hates you guys :roll:

Hint: it's not jealousy.

Go try and take up residency illegally in the majority of the world and see how welcomed you are. Hell go try to do it in Mexico since their government is so vocal about it.
 

Ronstang

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Hmm....three Houstonians called alien42 on his statement.....does that make it Houstownage?
 

piasabird

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Imagines ording a pallet of bricks and mailing them all one at a time. . . .

Maybe Cinder Blocks.