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nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: BigToque
And you guys wonder why the majority of the world hates you guys :roll:

Hint: it's not jealousy.

Yes, I'm sure Canada would throw a welcoming party for 12 million people who just decided to cross the border and start taking advantage of your health care system.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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We dont need national guard on the border we have hundreds of thousands of Federal troops that live on the border now. Ft Bliss Texas has plenty of troops and they have a giant flightline for landing and taking off. Bases in Presidio, Fort Ord, CA. Just shift some troops down there a month at a time for guard duty. Dont need no national guardsman to be called up. Let them rest. It is not like the Infantry has anything to do when they are in the USA???
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

You need to explain how an ILLEGAL comes here legally.....I am sure there are many on the other side of the border that would like to know that trick. I guess your friends have expired visas? If so they are no better than a border jumper. No one ever said that the only illegal immigrants are Mexican, people just tend to talk that way because the overwhelming majority are Mexican and most ARE from Latin/South American countries so a lot of people don't make the distinction properly. The issue is ILLEGAL immigrants though, their country of origin or ethnicity is irrelevant.

please explain what you mean by "no better than"
 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: BigToque
And you guys wonder why the majority of the world hates you guys :roll:

Hint: it's not jealousy.

Yes, I'm sure Canada would throw a welcoming party for 12 million people who just decided to cross the border and start taking advantage of your health care system.

Funny you should mention that since I am married to a Canadian. Before we were married my wife tried to find out how to get me into Canada once we were married. The Canadian Federal Government told her they could not help her, she would first need to get approval from the Quebec provincial government. She filled out the initial paperwork and mailed it in. We still have not heard back 21 years later.

To get her into the US she went to the consulate in Montreal, filled out some paperwork and then had a physical. In the meantime the US allowed me to start bringing her posessions across the border before we were actually married. After we got married in Montreal we went back to the consulate and spent a few hours doing the rest of the paperwork and paying fees. At the end of the day her passport was stamped for permanent resident status and into the US she moved.
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.

Well then they ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY MORON... god what part of breaking the freaking law by staying dont you get?
I dotn care if they are working and paying taxes if they dont have a VISA or a IMMIGRATION ID they are criminals and should be deported back to the slum they came from..
get it?
in other words GTFO and STAY OUT..
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.


Ok, maybe I am at a loss, but I don't think you lose your permanent resident status if you fail to renew your greencard. I think they allow a sizeable amount of time to get it renewed. Unfortunately our country is very giving on time frames. Look it up on the net under Green Card and visas. You could be wrong on this. Your friends may still be legal but not legal to work.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Funny you should mention that since I am married to a Canadian. Before we were married my wife tried to find out how to get me into Canada once we were married. The Canadian Federal Government told her they could not help her, she would first need to get approval from the Quebec provincial government. She filled out the initial paperwork and mailed it in. We still have not heard back 21 years later.

Yeah, I've looked into what it takes to move from the US to Canada and get citizenship. Seems pretty difficult.
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: alien42
please explain what you mean by "no better than"

They don't belong in this country. They are here ILLEGALLY. They should not only be deported but they should never be allowed to come back since as a guest they don't even have the decency, respect, or gratitude to respect the laws of this country. In that way they are NO BETTER than a border jumper. Is that hard for you to comprehend?

 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.

Well then they ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY MORON... god what part of breaking the freaking law by staying dont you get?
I dotn care if they are working and paying taxes if they dont have a VISA or a IMMIGRATION ID they are criminals and should be deported back to the slum they came from..
get it?
in other words GTFO and STAY OUT..

you clearly have some hostility issues but that is not the point. i said that they came here legally, which they did. what part of that dont you understand?

btw...your post reeks of racism and ignorance: "should be deported back to the slum they came from"
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: alien42
please explain what you mean by "no better than"

They don't belong in this country. They are here ILLEGALLY. They should not only be deported but they should never be allowed to come back since as a guest they don't even have the decency, respect, or gratitude to respect the laws of this country. In that way they are NO BETTER than a border jumper. Is that hard for you to comprehend?

you ignorance and hate is hard for me to comprehend. you are a disgrace to mankind with an attitude like that. every single illegal alien i know is as beneficial to our society,if not more so, than the average american.
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: alien42
please explain what you mean by "no better than"

They don't belong in this country. They are here ILLEGALLY. They should not only be deported but they should never be allowed to come back since as a guest they don't even have the decency, respect, or gratitude to respect the laws of this country. In that way they are NO BETTER than a border jumper. Is that hard for you to comprehend?

you ignorance and hate is hard for me to comprehend. you are a disgrace to mankind with an attitude like that. every single illegal alien i know is as beneficial to our society,if not more so, than the average american.


It has nothing to do with hate. It has to do with following the law, which I do on a daily basis and have my whole life. You are the ignorant one. You seem to think that people just naturally DESERVE the right to live in this country. If they are an immigrant on a visa and do not follow the law then they should give up that right and go home. Talk about ignorace and hate....."every single illegal alien I know is as beneficial to our society, if not more so, than the average american". Nice. You contradict your own view by admitting they are ILLEGAL. How illegal are you?
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.

Well then they ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY MORON... god what part of breaking the freaking law by staying dont you get?
I dotn care if they are working and paying taxes if they dont have a VISA or a IMMIGRATION ID they are criminals and should be deported back to the slum they came from..
get it?
in other words GTFO and STAY OUT..

you clearly have some hostility issues but that is not the point. i said that they came here legally, which they did. what part of that dont you understand?

btw...your post reeks of racism and ignorance: "should be deported back to the slum they came from"

yah i guess that makes every other country in the world racists for not wanting illegals and even legals to immigrate to thier countries either...
why dont you pull up some of the European countries immigration laws or NZ/Aus or japan.. you want tough laws and standards check those out to name a few...

We dont hate people.. we hate SQUATTERS no matter what race creed or color...
you dont belong in a country you illegally entered...

we are not racists we are Americans that are tired of being taken advantage of by these squatters..
 

Specop 007

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: alien42
please explain what you mean by "no better than"

They don't belong in this country. They are here ILLEGALLY. They should not only be deported but they should never be allowed to come back since as a guest they don't even have the decency, respect, or gratitude to respect the laws of this country. In that way they are NO BETTER than a border jumper. Is that hard for you to comprehend?

you ignorance and hate is hard for me to comprehend. you are a disgrace to mankind with an attitude like that. every single illegal alien i know is as beneficial to our society,if not more so, than the average american.

You'll think that when they push to succede the Southern States.....

 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: alien42
why does everyone on the 'send a brick' side of the issue associate illegal immigration with mexicans?

i know quite a few illegals and not a single one is mexican and they all came to the states legally. they all pay taxes and have healthcare through their jobs.

oh well, let the hate and ignorance continue

^ nominated for Self pwnage of the year 2006

How is someone an "illegal Alien" if they came to the US LEGALLY... that would make them a Immigrant not an Illegal alien...

if they have a green card and work and pay taxes under thier OWN name they are not illegals...

Illegals are people that the US government dont know that are here and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to be here..
they sneak across the borders.. US and Canada.. but the majority are mexicans looking for a better life...
Canada has more to fear from Americans trying to escape Bush than them wanting to get here!

you just owned your self i am afraid. you can come to this country legally and then overstay your legal 'time limit' to be here and then you are an illegal alien. just that simple.

Well then they ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY MORON... god what part of breaking the freaking law by staying dont you get?
I dotn care if they are working and paying taxes if they dont have a VISA or a IMMIGRATION ID they are criminals and should be deported back to the slum they came from..
get it?
in other words GTFO and STAY OUT..

you clearly have some hostility issues but that is not the point. i said that they came here legally, which they did. what part of that dont you understand?

btw...your post reeks of racism and ignorance: "should be deported back to the slum they came from"

yah i guess that makes every other country in the world racists for not wanting illegals and even legals to immigrate to thier countries either...
why dont you pull up some of the European countries immigration laws or NZ/Aus or japan.. you want tough laws and standards check those out to name a few...

We dont hate people.. we hate SQUATTERS no matter what race creed or color...
you dont belong in a country you illegally entered...

we are not racists we are Americans that are tired of being taken advantage of by these squatters..

i dont think americans are racist for being concerned about the immigration issue. unfortunately the issue ends up bring up a lot of stereotypes and real hatred and racism due to a lack of understanding. the reality is no one knows exactly how many illegals are here and no one knows the nationality distribution of them. sure there will be a majority of mexicans but they come from all over the world and there are plenty of good people that came to the states legally but due to varying cirumstances became illegal while they were here.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Specop 007

You'll think that when they push to succede the Southern States.....

once again you are insuating that all illegal aliens are mexican and 'border jumpers'
 

Specop 007

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Specop 007

You'll think that when they push to succede the Southern States.....

once again you are insuating that all illegal aliens are mexican and 'border jumpers'

Just 99%.
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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yah i guess that makes every other country in the world racists for not wanting illegals and even legals to immigrate to thier countries either...
why dont you pull up some of the European countries immigration laws or NZ/Aus or japan.. you want tough laws and standards check those out to name a few...

We dont hate people.. we hate SQUATTERS no matter what race creed or color...
you dont belong in a country you illegally entered...

we are not racists we are Americans that are tired of being taken advantage of by these squatters..
[/quote]

i dont think americans are racist for being concerned about the immigration issue. unfortunately the issue ends up bring up a lot of stereotypes and real hatred and racism due to a lack of understanding. the reality is no one knows exactly how many illegals are here and no one knows the nationality distribution of them. sure there will be a majority of mexicans but they come from all over the world and there are plenty of good people that came to the states legally but due to varying cirumstances became illegal while they were here.[/quote]

Again.. for the people in the cheap seats or people who dont SPEAK/READ english so well..

if they entered legally but became illegal for whatever reason...
THEY ARE ILLEGAL AND NEED TO BE DEPORTED or APPLY FOR A NEW VISA AND BECOME LEGAL AGAIN!..
what part of that is so hard to understand?

 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: Mill
I don't see anything in either thread or article proving that Hispanics don't pay taxes. And I'm not talking about just sales or gas taxes, either.

You cannot pay taxes without a Social Security Number. Illegal immigrants do not have a social security number.
/arguement

Wrong. Most use a generic or fake SSN.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: joedrake
:roll: Because the immigrants do SO much to you

did you ever stop and considering how much money will go to roughly 13 million people in terms of healthcare and public schooling? that's a lot.....

Yeah, cause they don't pay taxes and stuff. Or actually, the vast majority do...

As a group they don't pay in proportion to the government services they consume. When you consider healthcare/welfare/education/prison inmantes as a group they have an overall net negative affect on the US economy. Everyone is suffering so a few can profit off of cheap labor.

Prove it.
Here's a start. Text

Another. Text

Wake up.

I don't see anything in either thread or article proving that Hispanics don't pay taxes. And I'm not talking about just sales or gas taxes, either.

You told him to prove whether or not they have a negative total impact on the economy and he did so. You didn't ask for proof of whether or not they pay taxes.

All I said was "prove it" so don't tell ME what MY intent was.
 

Specop 007

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: Mill
All I said was "prove it" so don't tell ME what MY intent was.

We'll tell you what your intent is, and you'll damn well like it!
 

bleuiko

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Feb 22, 2001
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I didn't read the whole thread... but I think the running joke with a hint of truth is this:

If we send all the illegals away, who's gonna built that wall???
 

Ronstang

Lifer
Jul 8, 2000
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Originally posted by: bleuiko
I didn't read the whole thread... but I think the running joke with a hint of truth is this:

If we send all the illegals away, who's gonna built that wall???

I would be more than happy to volunteer some time and would take vacation time to do so.