The birth of the different races

[Arkitech]

Was Noah really the father of all races? I've heard it said before his offspring were the forefathers of the different races. If you believe in the bible then naturally you agree that all mankind had its beginning from Adam and Eve who were likely jewish. Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

Whats interesting is how different races are today, its almost as if they were created differently. But assuming that the great flood destroyed all human life with the exception of Noah and his family then the human race began again from his offspring. Likely after the flood Noah's children may have each went their own seperate way and as the years went by and their children married one another they eventually must have taken on characterstics and traits that were different from their cousins. Evidently after decades and centuries of breeding there were extremely pronounced differences in skin tone, facial features and even in body size that these distant relatives became the various races we have today.


What does this say about selective breeding?
Are the different races really a form of evolution?
What makes some races more atheletically inclined or natural conquerors?
Or are those descriptions just stereotypes??

 

[PlatinumGold]

Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

this is a joke right?

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

this is a joke right?

I guess it depends on whether or not you believe in the bible. I'm not sure if I believe everything in the book but I'm just using it for the basis of this post.

 

[whaleskinrug]

Whether one believes in evolution and/or a specific creation story it seems all modern humans evolved from a small number of ancestors and then spread out. Besides random genetic variables the physical environments that different groups lived in certainly would play a major role in genetic adaptation

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

this is a joke right?

I guess it depends on whether or not you believe in the bible. I'm not sure if I believe everything in the book but I'm just using it for the basis of this post.

do you know the difference between Inductive and Deductive?

How can you define Adam and Eve as JEWISH when the definition of what a Jew is came WAYYY after the fact?

btw, whethor or not someone believes in the bible has NOTHING to do with how illogical your statement is.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

this is a joke right?

I guess it depends on whether or not you believe in the bible. I'm not sure if I believe everything in the book but I'm just using it for the basis of this post.

do you know the difference between Inductive and Deductive?

How can you define Adam and Eve as JEWISH when the definition of what a Jew is came WAYYY after the fact?

btw, whethor or not someone believes in the bible has NOTHING to do with how illogical your statement is.

Its not illogical if you're tracing bibical genealogy which is what I based my statement on. What racial background do you think Adam most resembled?

 

[whaleskinrug]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

this is a joke right?

I guess it depends on whether or not you believe in the bible. I'm not sure if I believe everything in the book but I'm just using it for the basis of this post.

do you know the difference between Inductive and Deductive?

How can you define Adam and Eve as JEWISH when the definition of what a Jew is came WAYYY after the fact?

btw, whethor or not someone believes in the bible has NOTHING to do with how illogical your statement is.

Its not illogical if you're tracing bibical genealogy which is what I based my statement on. What racial background do you think Adam most resembled?

whatever the interpreter/reader identifies with?

 

[alkemyst]

I hate to break it to anyone but the lineage tracing back to Adam and Eve is only a virtual paper trail and a very poor one at that.

 

[Stealth1024]

http://www.christiancourier.com/questions/racesQuestion.htm

"the whole concept of race is evolutionary, not Biblical, for"God hath made of one blood all nations of men" (Acts 17:26). All of mankind springs from our first parents, Adam and Eve, and then through Noah's family. The Biblical distinction is between national groups, and especially languages, not skin color or other physical characteristics. These two men, and probably many blacks, had been bludgeoned by evolutionary dogma into questioning their own self-worth, wondering if their standing before God was equal to that of other ethnic groups."

 

[RIGorous1]

For those of you who refer to the bible keep in mind that it is a cannonical text... meaning that it is a compilation of works that have been edited and selected to support of a particular theme. In addition to this there was another girl not mentioned in genesis (look her up and learn).

Also the bible is man's interpretation of god's word, ask yourself how can man accurately understand an omnipotent being since he is limited by his senses.

Lastly there is no such thing as races ... ask any physical anthropologist and they'll smack you down for saying that. There is only 1 race and it is homo sapien.

 

[Tom]

What does this say about selective breeding?

If you mean by that what happens when members of the same species are seperated by geography will they develop different characteristics ? yes.

Are the different races really a form of evolution?

yes

What makes some races more atheletically inclined or natural conquerors?

see below.

Or are those descriptions just stereotypes??

for the most part. There are specific traits that help in specific athletic events, such as better ability to breath at high altitude helping in long distance running, but it's not as widespread as some believe.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Was Noah really the father of all races? I've heard it said before his offspring were the forefathers of the different races. If you believe in the bible then naturally you agree that all mankind had its beginning from Adam and Eve who were likely jewish. Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

Um - no. Adam and Eve were genetically perfect, there was no "jew" or any other race about them.

Whats interesting is how different races are today, its almost as if they were created differently. But assuming that the great flood destroyed all human life with the exception of Noah and his family then the human race began again from his offspring. Likely after the flood Noah's children may have each went their own seperate way and as the years went by and their children married one another they eventually must have taken on characterstics and traits that were different from their cousins. Evidently after decades and centuries of breeding there were extremely pronounced differences in skin tone, facial features and even in body size that these distant relatives became the various races we have today.

That is how it works. When you isolate specific characteristics and then isolate the offspring, over many generations you end up with a big difference. All of today's domesticated cats came from a single wild cat. My pug came from a black wolf in china, but they certainly don't look the same.

 

[Sid59]

how many races are there?

 

[Analog]

What does this say about selective breeding?

Nothing new, certain characteristics can be amplified- see the different breeds of dogs.

Are the different races really a form of evolution?

They could eventually lead to that, evolution theory requires isolation and adaptation. Today, there is really no more isolation, and with 'globality' adaptation is also wiped out, since a particular disease will be addressed with medicine etc. I.e. a certain 'race' won't be wiped out by famine, war, earthquakes, disease etc. as it may have happened in the distant past.

it makes some races more atheletically inclined or natural conquerors?

I have no idea what you're talking about

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Are the different races really a form of evolution?
What makes some races more atheletically inclined or natural conquerors?
Or are those descriptions just stereotypes??

There is definately a difference between races, we all know that.

As for the evolution thing, yes, I believe it is pure evolution. Humans are one of the only animals that can "tan" their skin. If you are deficient in Vitamin D, you skin tone will darken, causing you to absorb more light. If you have too much Vitamin D, your skin tone will lighten, reflecting more light. Therefore, skin color is definately evolution. (babies are born with a pre-determined skin tone)

That is just one example of race / evolution. Now if you use that same example, but use other traits, you can see that people in various parts of the world need certain traits to survive.

Eskimos (or Inuits) for example, are typically short and stout in stature. This is because their environment is very cold, and their body needs to be smaller and more thick to preserve heat.

You really need to get movie called "Journey of Man". It is a PBS documentary that talks about human evolution, AFTER the first Homo Sapiens. As for religion, sorry, It's tough to scientifically study religion.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Was Noah really the father of all races? I've heard it said before his offspring were the forefathers of the different races. If you believe in the bible then naturally you agree that all mankind had its beginning from Adam and Eve who were likely jewish. Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

Whats interesting is how different races are today, its almost as if they were created differently. But assuming that the great flood destroyed all human life with the exception of Noah and his family then the human race began again from his offspring. Likely after the flood Noah's children may have each went their own seperate way and as the years went by and their children married one another they eventually must have taken on characterstics and traits that were different from their cousins. Evidently after decades and centuries of breeding there were extremely pronounced differences in skin tone, facial features and even in body size that these distant relatives became the various races we have today.


What does this say about selective breeding?
Are the different races really a form of evolution?
What makes some races more atheletically inclined or natural conquerors?
Or are those descriptions just stereotypes??

well in this case - they were "perfect" and lived in "perfect" conditions not too hot not too cold. i dont think you really mean jewish, BUT the oldes jews were from ethiopia and are african so it is believed. Some people think the garden of eden is mesopitamia close to modern IRAQ. SOOOOOO according to that climate, and location they were probably looking just like modern day people of arab decent look now? i dont know but ti think its a good question.

 

[Luagsch]

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Was Noah really the father of all races? I've heard it said before his offspring were the forefathers of the different races. If you believe in the bible then naturally you agree that all mankind had its beginning from Adam and Eve who were likely jewish. Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

....

so because we're all decendents from adam & eve we're all jews... 😕

your assumption is worth some beating... :evil:

(i'm not a racist and i don't believe in creation. those logical flaws are what drive me nuts) :beer:

 

[conjur]

Noah the father of all races?!?!

Great flood destroying all humans except Noah and his family?!?!


BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH AHA


I always love a good laugh thanks to fundamentalists!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Luagsch

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Was Noah really the father of all races? I've heard it said before his offspring were the forefathers of the different races. If you believe in the bible then naturally you agree that all mankind had its beginning from Adam and Eve who were likely jewish. Since God's chosen people in the bible were Israelites and they can directly trace their lineage back to Adam its probably a safe bet to assume that Adam and Eve were jews.

....

so because we're all decendents from adam & eve we're all jews... 😕

your assumption is worth some beating... :evil:

(i'm not a racist and i don't believe in creation. those logical flaws are what drive me nuts) :beer:

at least ONE other person saw how RIDICULOUS his logic was. i guess everyone else just found it so annoying they didn't comment on it.

Yo Arkitech

If Adam = Alphabet = Gene pool

Jews of biblical times = Vowels = Part of Gene pool

You could NOT conclude that because Jews had DIRECT lineage to adam that Adam = Jew, that would be like claiming Vowels = Alphabet in my analogy.

if you don't understand that, well, i just give up.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Noah was found to be an inhabitant of the region around a lake that was 425' below sea level. Currently that region is known as the Black Sea, and it at sea level.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Noah was found to be an inhabitant of the region around a lake that was 425' below sea level. Currently that region is known as the Black Sea, and it at sea level.

Links to support this claim?

BTW, I'm aware of those findings in 1997 that showed an older coastline now underwater. That's simply due to the natural warming/cooling periods. In this case, an ending Ice Age melted glaciers and that increased the depth of the Black Sea. Noah was, most likely, a fictional character but meant to represent a certain village or civilization at the time.

 

[slackerinabox]

Adam and eve weren't jewish.. Judaism is not a race it's a culture and a religion..It's not the same as say "Catholic" but jews can be eastern european, middle eastern, even Argentinian (there's a huge spanish jewish population).. So, since Adam and Eve were around before the term JEW existed, they can not be called jews... Though I do find it funny that we're discussing the races of fictional characters.. Were the three bears columbian?

 

[slackerinabox]

Also, if Noah's story WAS true the human race would have probably died out due to rampant inbreeding... Or perhaps people were once able to read minds and telepathically communicate but we're not the inbred results of noah's journey..


EDIT: sorry for my spelling errors- didn't get any sleep!

 

[Luagsch]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Also, if Noah's story WAS true the human raise would have probably died out due to rampant inbreeding... Or perhaps people were once able to read minds and telepathically communicate but we're not the inbred results of noah's journey..

so noah the redneck...
... and he had a lot of animals... :Q

 

[PlatinumGold]

archeology and history however seem to indicate 3 Cradles of civilization. Yellow river in China, Euphrates in the Mid east and one in Africa.

evolutionary theory would seem to support "different" races better than Creation theory as it was possible for the human species to evolve in 3 different locations.

but if so, how come they are soo genetically close? was that PURELY by chance?

i personally don't believe in a literal biblical creation account, but a purely evolutionary theory has holes for me too.