The bible, fact or myth?

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ProviaFan

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<< 21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
- Ephesians 5:21-25
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Skyclad1uhm1

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<< 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. >>



[flamemode]
OMG! The Lord is screwing our wifes too!
[/flamemode]
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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<< just leaving it at this...people going to heaven will be there to worship and serve God, just as the angels do now...if you don't want to do that for eternity, then heaven is not for those people (and those will be tortured for all eternity instead)

heaven is NOT your own personal imagined paradise.
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Just out of curiosity... What about the other religious "bibles" that predate what the christians use. These people lead just lives, are kind and upstanding, may not believe in "heaven" but do have some religious payoff.
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Gimme a forinstance
 

Mephistopheles

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When I was growing up, I was a God-fearing, church-going Christian. It wasn't until I read the Bible that I lost my faith. If anybody ever takes the time to read the bible and try to comprehend what it is saying, I believe they will lose their faith also. Don't get me wrong, most of what it says is good, but not all. Here's a quote"



<< "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." >>

- Mattew 10:34

And have you ever considered that all three major religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) are all based on the Old Testament? And if you ever bother reading that, then you'll lose even more faith.

The bottom line is that the Bible doesn't have all they answers. Why the hell should I have to interpret? Usefull knowledge that can help mankind should not need to be interpreted. It should not be mystical, kept hidden by an old man on top of a mountain. It should be in plain text and it should actually have answers to our problems. The Bible, however virtuous it may be, does not have the answers. I will look elsewhere...
 

LeStEr

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Myth, the bible says the earth was created such and such an ammount of years back but dinosaurs were arround before that? Hmmmmm

I forget how many years exactly but its before the dinosaurs were arround. Its been scientifically proven they were arround way back then too.
 

Ornery

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WHAT IS THE BIBLE?
  • "...The Bible is in actual fact a collection of "books" or writings that were written over a period of some 1600 years, form the earliest Old Testament book (scroll) written in Hebrew to the last New Testament book, Revelation written in Greek."
Ironically, the Bible's books should lead to freedom from organized religion and it's shackles. Damn shame the way things have turned out!
 

NikPreviousAcct

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<< The bible, fact or myth? >>

The Bible can not be proven, so it's not fact. But it can't be disproven either. Also, it cannot be a myth since everyone knows it exists.

Try again CuteBunny :)

nik
 

b0mbrman

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I don't think too many people take every single word as fact...most Christians I know think it a mix of fact and fiction...but still, as a good guide to how you should live
 

dionx

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<< I forget how many years exactly but its before the dinosaurs were arround. Its been scientifically proven they were arround way back then too. >>



in science, nothing can be "proven" right. the best you can really say is "studies have shown...". And if you think logical proofs as seen in math are "proved", you are wrong. All it takes is one statement to prove something wrong but not all the statements in the world can prove something right.

 

gopunk

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<< WHAT IS THE BIBLE?
  • "...The Bible is in actual fact a collection of "books" or writings that were written over a period of some 1600 years, form the earliest Old Testament book (scroll) written in Hebrew to the last New Testament book, Revelation written in Greek."
Ironically, the Bible's books should lead to freedom from organized religion and it's shackles. Damn shame the way things have turned out!
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well, what'd you expect would happen when you have some powerful church picking and choosing what is and isn't the word of god? ;)

misc:

what's NART mean?

and yes, there are some freaky ass people who take the bible *literally*... remember petrek?
 

Josephus

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There is a subtle difference of perspective. The Bible is a fact, the stories within the Bible have formed "truths" for thousands of years for countless people.
The delima any rational mind is faced with is the variety of "truths" that can be discerned from the same written texts.

i been laughed at alot by majority because of my disbelief

I would have a difficult time believing the "truth" as represented by people that ridicule me, too.

The real power, or my "truth" of the Christian faith is not the elimination of evil in the world at this moment, but the promise of a peace within myself and the
power that that peace provides.
 

Ornery

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Welcome Josephus! :)

I think you've got a tough row to hoe around here, but have fun anyway!
 

StandardCell

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Cuteybunny et al, you'll get a better effect next time if you take several hundred liters of gasoline in a large wide pit and throw a match on it. Just an FYI.
 

Mikelh

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The Bible is not for the closed minded. It's a spiritual book, and understanding only comes when one is spiritually discerned. It's that simple.

Seek an authority on the Bible. Hint. There aren't many at AnandTech.

Michael
 

Netopia

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cuteybunny,

You've asked a reasonable question. I believe that most people who call themselves Christian and believe everything that the Bible says do so because that is what they were taught by others. Most of those people have probably done little or no investigation for themselves to see what the Bible actually says and whether or not it can stand on it's own merits. I have... and continue to do so, because I want to know what is true. One can win an argument and so be considered "right" even if they are factually wrong. I'd rather be factually correct even if it means admitting I've been wrong about something in order to be able to shed what is false and try to gain what is true.

That said, I can only tell you why I believe the Bible to be true. A reasonable person will judge a matter on its own merit. If you talk to historians and archeologists, more and more you will find that they ALL consider the Bible to be a VERY historically accurate. A couple of decades ago, the Biblical stories of Sodom and Gommorah were considered to be myths because they had never appeared in any text other than the Bible... then they found non-Biblical evidence that they were real. Until just a couple of years ago it was believed the King David of the Bible was just Jewish myth... until archeologists found evidence to the contrary. This continues to happen, that the Bible shows itself to be historically accurate to the point that it has recorded things that are recorded almost nowhere else... and yet they continue to be found and show that the Bible is true in these matters.

How about other things? Science tells us that first the Big Bang came and then the cosmic forces and matter congealed and we got stars and planets. The Bible basically agrees with that. The Bible says that the universe isn't eternal (as some religions purvey) but had a beginning... which is what science says. The Bible has a progression of life from plants to animals to man... so does science. The Bible says that the Earth just hangs in space (no Atlas or other mythological being holding it up...it just sits on nothing) and science agrees. The Bible says that there were great animals on the Earth whose tails were as large as trees.... no arguement from science there.

We could look at prophesies and other things? but I?ll have to wait until I have a little more time for that.

Joe