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The battle to save Hubble have begun!

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SirUlli

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i dont know this was posting before

Please sign this online petition at the SaveTheHubble.org Website

It seems this is only intended for US residents... but just select a state and make up a zip code then it should work. Hubble belongs to the World not just USA.

i get this answer after sign up


Dear Fellow Petitioner,

Our movement continues to gain momentum. Since NASA's announcement canceling the shuttle servicing mission to Hubble, the daily signature count has increased to 300 per day, which puts us at ~3000 strong and counting. So keep doing what you are doing--emailing, linking, blogging, etc. To start bringing pressure to bare on the government, I believe we will need a base of 100,000 signatures. At that point, we will have the credibility to deliver our message to the powers that be.

I see hope in the fact that President Bush did not even mention NASA's agenda for manned space flights to the Moon and beyond in the State of the Union Address--perhaps the administration is not all that committed to its current plan, and open to some good ol' fashioned political pressure. Let's bring it on.

Best regards,


Michael Paolucci
president
www.slooh.com
www.savethehubble.org,
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Sir Ulli
 
It's better if they declare it as junk so that the Private Space operations such as the X Project can go up and save it.

The only logistical problem would be in the hand over of the Telemetry links so that the Hubble sends back useable imagary again. Of course the Military would still want oversight of it especially for it's pinpoint ability.
 
There is a better Telescope in the works let it falll....


I love the hubble too but in with the new and out with the old. My desktop background is even the 3000+ galaxy picture it took.

😀
 
That's all very well but the new 1 isn't due until 2011 & the hubble is expected to last only until 2007-2008🙁,so in the meantime it would make sense to give hubble a little more life.

I would certainly sign to save the hubble but I'm not in the US 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Assimilator1
That's all very well but the new 1 isn't due until 2011 & the hubble is expected to last only until 2007-2008🙁,so in the meantime it would make sense to give hubble a little more life.

I would certainly sign to save the hubble but I'm not in the US 🙁
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That's okay Assim, I agree with your thinking and I signed it so we'll count mine as a 1/2 each! 😛

 
I think the Hubble should be fine. If Bush is re-elected, he'll likely "forget" many of his campaign promises here. Nasa will probably get their usual budget, and be put on the back burner until 4 years from now, when Bush declares himself dictator for life.
Oh, sorry, thought I was in the Politics forum. 😀

It'd be nice to see the Hubble get at least just one more servicing mission. It is to be retired anyway - I think the John Webb telescope is in the works, if I remembered the name right. The little blurb I read about it said that it'd be able to put the Hubble to shame. Still, it'd be nice if they could really try to get their money's (or rather, OUR money's) worth out of Hubble, while it's still in orbit.
 
There are plenty of grass-roots organizations that would kill(figurative term for some - not so figurative for others) for the opportunity to operate the Hubble and take over responsibility for it. 😉
 
Assuming there will be another shuttle mission before its decomission date, why not just bring it back???

Would make a great museum piece.
 
Originally posted by: vss1980
Assuming there will be another shuttle mission before its decomission date, why not just bring it back???

Would make a great museum piece.
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That would be cool but would it be possible? Isn't it the size of a school bus? Could the shuttle safely land with that much in payload?

 
Well, its more momentum that has to be decelerated, but I dont think the hubble itself is that big.... I mean there are some parts they could take off and fold away or junk like the solar panels, antennas, etc. Just keep the main body, the rest can be fudged back together back on earth with spares/immitations.

As for the shuttle landing safely, well, they would have to do the maths, however as long as the shuttle's atmospheric protection holds together, I can't see why it would be a problem.
 
Hmm,that would cost a stack load of money & they'd get nearly nothing in return!😉 ,nice but not practicle🙁 ,they'd be better off doing 1 more service mission......or selling it to someone else whilst it's healthy.
 
I don't see it as that impracticle..... lets say they leave it floating for a few years while the replacement is readied.... they could go up, dump one satellite in space, and bring the other back - and who says it even has to be then, they could coincide the pick-up on other missions. Wishful thinking.... maybe, but I wouldn't say its completely impractical or overly expensive if they pick it up whilst on another mission anyway.

I don't agree with the selling it to someone else while its healthy..... because then it becomes their problem and if something goes wrong it will be all to easy to just abandon it or let it start a re-entry burn-up to destroy it.
 
Good point ,if they did it whilst on route from another mission cost difference would be much smaller.
I still think it'd be better to keep it working though🙂
 
I'd agree to keep it working, but if they got something better in the works..... 😀

Besides it ain't getting any younger, and after a troubled start I doubt NASA wanna leave it up there to become an embarassment some time later.
 
Congrats to all those that "Bombarded" Nasa to save the Hubble 🙂

1-29-2004 NASA to Review Plan to Phase Out Hubble

BALTIMORE - NASA's chief agreed Thursday to review his decision to cancel the Hubble Space Telescope's final servicing mission and let it deteriorate and go out of operation. The decision comes after the space agency was bombarded by pleas to save the craft.

E-mails have poured in to the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, which coordinates the use of Hubble's instruments.

"It's been overwhelming. My e-mail is overflowing," said Steve Beckwith, director of the Space Telescope Science Institute.

"Every day, we've had offers of ideas, political support and even money. Every day, I get people who want to know how they can contribute to keeping Hubble alive."

"My view is when someone is told they need major surgery, any prudent person would get a second opinion," Mikulski said. "That's what I told Administrator O'Keefe and that's what he has agreed to do.
 
Robert Zubrin
President, Mars Society
February 1, 2004
For further information about the Mars Society, visit our website at www.marssociety.org

Last week, the Steering Committee of the Mars Society released a statement supporting the new Bush space initiative, but taking strong exception to the decision by NASA Administrator O'Keefe to cancel all future Space Shuttle missions to the Hubble Space Telescope, including SM4, the nearly-ready-to-go flight that would have installed the new Cosmic Origins Spectrograph and Widefield Camera 3 instruments.

Since the release of that statement, I have received many communications congratulating the Mars Society for this stand, which several in the non-Mars science community characterized with words such as "unexpected but very welcome." A few space advocates, however, have written me, questioning why those whose primary concern is to further the human exploration and settlement of space should fight to save an astronomy project.

The answer to this is straightforward. We must defend Hubble because the abortion of the Hubble program is a crime against science. Furthermore, the grounds given for deserting Hubble are irrational, and constitute a form of moral cowardice that if accepted as the basis of space policy, would absolutely prevent any human missions to the Moon, Mars, or anywhere else. /Q]

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Sir Ulli
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Originally posted by: SirUlli
Robert Zubrin
President, Mars Society
February 1, 2004
For further information about the Mars Society, visit our website at www.marssociety.org

Last week, the Steering Committee of the Mars Society released a statement supporting the new Bush space initiative, but taking strong exception to the decision by NASA Administrator O'Keefe to cancel all future Space Shuttle missions to the Hubble Space Telescope, including SM4, the nearly-ready-to-go flight that would have installed the new Cosmic Origins Spectrograph and Widefield Camera 3 instruments.

Since the release of that statement, I have received many communications congratulating the Mars Society for this stand, which several in the non-Mars science community characterized with words such as "unexpected but very welcome." A few space advocates, however, have written me, questioning why those whose primary concern is to further the human exploration and settlement of space should fight to save an astronomy project.

The answer to this is straightforward. We must defend Hubble because the abortion of the Hubble program is a crime against science. Furthermore, the grounds given for deserting Hubble are irrational, and constitute a form of moral cowardice that if accepted as the basis of space policy, would absolutely prevent any human missions to the Moon, Mars, or anywhere else. /Q]

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Sir Ulli
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Isn't that the truth! Don't put human life in peril to keep the Hubble up and running, but do it to put a man on the Moon again...... or Mars for that matter.😕
I'm sooooo confused!!!!!
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I agree that Hubble should have the next servicing mission... Those upgrades (in Hubble's case) really _have_ helped - it's far better than it was when it first went up. One problem I think is that the timeframe for this clashes either with ISS construction (2004-7) which they think will keep the shuttles occupied until they retire. Then the 2007-2011 slot where we are threatened with "no telescope" clashes with the timeframe in which NASA have "no space vehicle" (crew exploration vehicle not ready yet). But in my view if the next Hubble upgrade detectors are already more-or-less built, they should just try and squeeze an extra flight between the ISS contruction. I would have said that perhaps the Russian space agency could help out, if I didn't suspect the upgrade required the shuttle's larger payload bay.
 
Update: They are still planning on just having the Hubble burn up in the atmosphere with the possibility of some of it hitting land.
 
Petitions are useless. If you could find a way for the hubble to actually make money, instead of being a financial burden, it would be saved. still a huge loss.
 
Petitions are not always useless ,if you get enough names on them 'they' (mainly referring to politicians) will start to take notice

stephenbrooks
Totally agree they shold do the upcoming service mission ,especially if they were already close to being ready!.
I doubt Russia could help much ,they are fairly poor & have the ISS to worry about already.
 
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