Patrickz0rs
Senior member
If someone is your friend and they join your game, they should be on your team.
MW2 did a nice job with this...BFBC2 not so much.
MW2 did a nice job with this...BFBC2 not so much.
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bunnyfubbles
Lifer
I find the game not only does an excellent job not only placing my friends and I together, but also placing us into the same squad.
Granted, this is only when teams are being properly balanced, otherwise the game will split up friends as opposed to purposefully stacking the teams to create not only lopsided skill balance, but lopsided numbers on top of that...which is what you seem to be advocating, which is ridiculous
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Termie
Diamond Member
Just to lighten up the conversation a bit, I thought I'd mention that I played against "Jschmuck" today. I called out to him when he nailed me, but he didn't say much back. It was only after the game that I realized that this wasn't our own Jschmuck2, but the original Jschmuck! Jschmuck2, wherever you are, you've got to get back in the game so you can go toe-to-toe with your alter ego!
(For everyone new to this thread, Jschmuck2 set up the first AT BC2 server and ran it for a couple of months...it was how many of us got into the game in the first place.)
(For everyone new to this thread, Jschmuck2 set up the first AT BC2 server and ran it for a couple of months...it was how many of us got into the game in the first place.)
Well tonight was really wierd. Started out with SCAR-L + 4x scope again and was doing well but got bored so I switched to shotty+slug+magnum. I had tried this once before with the 870 and USAS but just couldn't get the hang of it after reading how people can kill long range with this combo.
But tonight for kicks I tried this with the SPAS-12 shotty and mopped up. Got 46 kills in two games. It was crazy, I just couldn't miss with the thing. Guys that I thought were surely out of range I shot for kicks and *boom* dead. That slug is wierd though, too close to an enemy and I miss badly. So then I switch back to the USAS and 870 and failed miserably. Don't know what it was about that SPAS but it just felt right. Can't wait to try again tomorrow 😉
But tonight for kicks I tried this with the SPAS-12 shotty and mopped up. Got 46 kills in two games. It was crazy, I just couldn't miss with the thing. Guys that I thought were surely out of range I shot for kicks and *boom* dead. That slug is wierd though, too close to an enemy and I miss badly. So then I switch back to the USAS and 870 and failed miserably. Don't know what it was about that SPAS but it just felt right. Can't wait to try again tomorrow 😉
it will unless the a) squad is full
then you can be on the same team but diff squad, or if the team balance would get dicked it toss you on the other side
you cant join MW2 matches in progress(correct?) so theres not really a valid comparison
GullyFoyle
Diamond Member
TraumaRN
Diamond Member
Damn I'm like the cheating magnet or something. Really had a bad experience with 2 cheaters tonight. Ruined it so bad I quit for the night.
First was a level 6 guy with an AEK-971 using ironsights and picking people off from ridiculous accross the map so far I can barely see him with the 12X scope. So I switched servers, only to find a level 30ish guy brandishing a SPAS-12 and again literally picking people off from again insane distances one/two shots without magnum or slugs equipped. I'll try again tomorrow. Yeesh.
First was a level 6 guy with an AEK-971 using ironsights and picking people off from ridiculous accross the map so far I can barely see him with the 12X scope. So I switched servers, only to find a level 30ish guy brandishing a SPAS-12 and again literally picking people off from again insane distances one/two shots without magnum or slugs equipped. I'll try again tomorrow. Yeesh.
bunnyfubbles
Lifer
It only takes 4 bullets/two bursts at close range with the AN-94 + magnum. All the other ARs will take 5-6+ bullets or a good 3 solid bursts unless the target really is close enough to go ahead and just hold the trigger down (which is rare). If you're not succeeding with the AN-94 at close range, my wager is that its you being too slow, not the AN-94.
I finally got the platinum on the AUG and I have to say its probably my least favorite AR, its cool that you somehow love it, but to me it felt like a chore getting it to platinum whereas all the other ARs had some significant advantages over it for me that made them far more enjoyable to use. Its just too ineffective at longer ranges (easily the worst AR at longer ranges) and doesn't really excel anywhere else...not really bad, but not really excelling anywhere either to make me want to choose it over any other AR for any reason. To me it just feels neglected whereas all the other ARs have some sort of strength or uniqueness to set them apart, the AUG just reeks mediocrity on the whole and it makes me wish they'd buff it, make it even better and a true stand out at close range or something.
bunnyfubbles
Lifer
Going for medals is one of the fastest ways to level up (particularly when playing medic, as medic is far and away one of the easiest classes to whore points on with heals and revives).
Its also one of the best ways to learn the strengths and weaknesses of all the weapons as it helps to force you to possibly change the way you're using it in order to find success with it.
For instance I would have never figured out that the engie SMGs are often much more effective when wielded from the hip if I hadn't forced myself to start using them more often.
Or the bolt action sniper rifles for instance, a clever way to use them is to exploit their ability to one-shot-kill anywhere on the body if you're close enough to your target. Throw red-dot or even 4x sights on those rifles and play as more of an assault rather than a sniper. Of course you'll quickly learn that the SV98 excels in this role because it has 10 rounds in its mag and it means you'll be reloading less, something that is far more important when you're in the thick of the action and can't afford a lengthy reload typical of the bolt action rifles.
I'm also not going out of my way to platinum everything. The boats for instance are too useless and rare for me to really try and bother with that, I don't think I even have the 10 kills required for bronze on those yet 😛
Tank mines is another I'm not going out of my way for, I'd much rather have rockets, although I'll use tank mines to blow up MCOMs from time to time and get kills that way, as well as sometimes deploy tank mines on my first spawn and then switch to rockets, but it'll take forever to get to plat for how I use them.
Otherwise I think most all the weapons have been excellently balanced and have their strengths that make them worthwhile, and I don't think any one is too terrible...the only ones I really am not looking forward to getting medals for would be:
M1 Garand - but only because I don't have direct access to it, I'm not a vet 😛 I technically have bronze on it but only because I've gone out of my way to steal it off a dead body and use it enough to get 25 kills 😀
M14 - I actually kind of like this weapon but really I'd much rather use the class specific weapons than this, and its mostly because I think its iron sights are terrible, they're just too much of a mess and too obstructive/distracting IMO. Thus it really only plays a role for me when I'm playing engie and want a weapon with far better punch at range than the SMGs, and this requires a pretty open map to justify.
G3 - I think its just too underpowered/ineffective and I'd really rather use the class specific weapons or the M14, which I'm not crazy about either.
M93R - easily the most niche pistol, maybe I'll come around to it, this pistol is actually one I might have had fun using before they broke the knife as I'd often just run around using only the knife and pistol. I've come to realize this pistol makes a great cleanup weapon, and it really rapes in close quarters, however I've always used my pistols in a variety of ways which includes longer ranges where this one is very impotent.
Its also one of the best ways to learn the strengths and weaknesses of all the weapons as it helps to force you to possibly change the way you're using it in order to find success with it.
For instance I would have never figured out that the engie SMGs are often much more effective when wielded from the hip if I hadn't forced myself to start using them more often.
Or the bolt action sniper rifles for instance, a clever way to use them is to exploit their ability to one-shot-kill anywhere on the body if you're close enough to your target. Throw red-dot or even 4x sights on those rifles and play as more of an assault rather than a sniper. Of course you'll quickly learn that the SV98 excels in this role because it has 10 rounds in its mag and it means you'll be reloading less, something that is far more important when you're in the thick of the action and can't afford a lengthy reload typical of the bolt action rifles.
I'm also not going out of my way to platinum everything. The boats for instance are too useless and rare for me to really try and bother with that, I don't think I even have the 10 kills required for bronze on those yet 😛
Tank mines is another I'm not going out of my way for, I'd much rather have rockets, although I'll use tank mines to blow up MCOMs from time to time and get kills that way, as well as sometimes deploy tank mines on my first spawn and then switch to rockets, but it'll take forever to get to plat for how I use them.
Otherwise I think most all the weapons have been excellently balanced and have their strengths that make them worthwhile, and I don't think any one is too terrible...the only ones I really am not looking forward to getting medals for would be:
M1 Garand - but only because I don't have direct access to it, I'm not a vet 😛 I technically have bronze on it but only because I've gone out of my way to steal it off a dead body and use it enough to get 25 kills 😀
M14 - I actually kind of like this weapon but really I'd much rather use the class specific weapons than this, and its mostly because I think its iron sights are terrible, they're just too much of a mess and too obstructive/distracting IMO. Thus it really only plays a role for me when I'm playing engie and want a weapon with far better punch at range than the SMGs, and this requires a pretty open map to justify.
G3 - I think its just too underpowered/ineffective and I'd really rather use the class specific weapons or the M14, which I'm not crazy about either.
M93R - easily the most niche pistol, maybe I'll come around to it, this pistol is actually one I might have had fun using before they broke the knife as I'd often just run around using only the knife and pistol. I've come to realize this pistol makes a great cleanup weapon, and it really rapes in close quarters, however I've always used my pistols in a variety of ways which includes longer ranges where this one is very impotent.
Patrickz0rs
Senior member
Medic + M60 + Magnum Ammo = Biggest Noob In The Server
smackababy
Lifer
How far range? Because if you just single click the MG3 it isn't hard to aim. The G36 is a even easier to do that with.
As opposed to engy + CG? 🙂
All classes are pretty deadly with the right combo.
medic+m60+magnum
engy+CG+EXPLMK2
assault+AN-94+magnum
recon+shotgun+magnum
I still prefer my engy + UMP-45 + RPG + 4x scope + EXPLMK2 over anything for the variety and novelty. I rarely see anyone kill me with the SMG + 4x scope combo. And even though I had put away the CG for a while I now bring it out once in a while when there are too many CGers on the other team to counter them.
The coolest thing about the 4x scope on the SMG is for spotting snipers and maybe send a few bullets their way to scratch them but also for reconing an area before advancing. It kind of sucks giving that slot up over extra rockets but once you get used to it you don't miss the rockets much.
At close range yea but that becomes so much more inaccurate at the top end of the short to low end of the medium range and will use my iron/red/4x sight over it. Using sights on the low recoil SMGs are wonderful for headshots 🙂 Especially on the UMP-45 where you have to make each bullet count.
scooterlibby
Senior member
It would be great if they made the amphibious vehicles much, much more lethal and the weapons easy to use. They are almost entirely useless for getting kills.
GullyFoyle
Diamond Member
Fixed that for you...
GullyFoyle
Diamond Member
New Battlefield Blog Post: Community Wednesday #4
New Battlefield Blog Post: DICE going on Onslaught for Xbox 360
New Battlefield Blog Post: DICE going on Onslaught for Xbox 360
GullyFoyle
Diamond Member
DICE Asking for feedback on your biggest issues with BFBC2! Make your voice heard!
What are your biggest issues?
I'm in for VOIP and new maps...
What are your biggest issues?
Bazajaytee said:
I'm in for VOIP and new maps...
Termie
Diamond Member
Yup...VOIP is the only absolute need on that list, since it's a core feature of the game that doesn't work. Everything else is just a tweak or small bug.
Funny about the horn bug though...always wondered why people didn't get out of the way (or jump in) when I honked!
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