The AT Battlefield 4 F.A.Q., News, and Discussion thread

[Paul98]

Just picked it up, looks sooooo much better than it did in beta. I seem to have better hit reg also.

 

[DeadFred]

so some initial impressions



the maps are too small

the only ones that feel right to me are golmud and locker


paracel is way smaller than it should be, we already knew shanghai was too small


I like the layout of most of the, esp resort and lancaum damn, they just need to be bigger

like 1.5 times the size they are now

i havent played on dawnbreaker yet, but it looks tiny

Dawnbreaker is tiny and the one I like the least. They barely gave us enough airspace to even turn a jet without going out of bounds!

Golmud, Transmission, and Resort are my favs. Resort is really small but I love the layout, Ive had some epic gunfights on that map.

 

[Canbacon]

Stupidly weak. Most of the time I get 3 stinger hits on a chopper before tehy fly out of range and heal. Today I helped Bacon take one down playing while playing Rush, I saw him blasting away at one while in deplyoment so I changed to stingers and spawned on him to help. I dunno how many times he had already hit it but I hit it twice more before it went down.

Ive taken a lot of hits from stingers while flying the scout helos with very little damage at all, and I dont even use the maintenance upgrade!

I was using the IGLA (constant lock on version). It is a bit OP as it is an instant mobility hit. So if the helicopter is flying too low or close to the building it is going to crash. 1 hit = mobility hit, 2 = mobility hit + smoking, 3 = death. I think I was carrying 4+1 rockets.

 

[raasco]

I really enjoy Dawnbreaker on conquest. I tend to bounce between two flags racking up many points. It's the best map to be a foot soldier on IMO.

 

[Childs]

I really enjoy Dawnbreaker on conquest. I tend to bounce between two flags racking up many points. It's the best map to be a foot soldier on IMO.

We had a couple of good rounds on Dawnbreaker on foot.

 

[raasco]

We had a couple of good rounds on Dawnbreaker on foot.

Yes, that was fun. I just wish squad leaders would call objectives more often. More points for everyone!

 

[imaheadcase]

I'm waiting to get my 780 TI card before I use all the exp boosts, but lost of people already hit 100 rank with them. BF4 is really easy to rank up in. Friend already is rank 75. lol

 

[smackababy]

Yes, that was fun. I just wish squad leaders would call objectives more often. More points for everyone!

I played in a squad with a guy who was really good at that. He would call an objective, and we'd all go take it (sometimes in our own separate paths, but we'd all meet up on it). It was incredibly fun. It helped he was like 48-10 at the end of the match; but, that did kind of annoy me, as it showed up my 35-15. =(

 

[LtMikePowelll]

I think Dawnbreaker is good enough with all three types of helicopter, map is too small or too many highrises for either jet types to function properly. Also, the RCB or the DV-15 is really tough to beat if the driver, 2 gunners and the last seat with engineer know what to do, I was in one battle and my driver got 36-0 by drive the RCB around Paracel Storm..

 

[Zargon]

They nerfed the AA and AT weapons so much. I've hit two helicopters with the RPG (yes, with no lock on; I've had my Carl Gustav practice) and each time, they lived. I hit a tank with 3 before it killed me, and it still had around 15 health.

frontal hits are like 18% damage now? back is like 35 though



Ive been 1HK by a rocket launcher in the chopper though

 

[moonbogg]

I just want to get home to play with my super windows 8.1 BF4 rig from the future. It runs like my CPU is at 6ghz and I have dual Geforce GTX 880 Ultras. Windows 8.1! Go get it! Windows 7 hates BF4! Windows 7 hates you!

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I think Dawnbreaker is good enough with all three types of helicopter, map is too small or too many highrises for either jet types to function properly. Also, the RCB or the DV-15 is really tough to beat if the driver, 2 gunners and the last seat with engineer know what to do, I was in one battle and my driver got 36-0 by drive the RCB around Paracel Storm..

I can understand putting one jet in as a shitty counter to the helicopters. IDK why they put 2 on that map though. DV-15 is amazing. I made it almost an entire Paracel Storm map without dying. Got 90% of my unlocks in that one round hahaha.

 

[Childs]

I just want to get home to play with my super windows 8.1 BF4 rig from the future. It runs like my CPU is at 6ghz and I have dual Geforce GTX 880 Ultras. Windows 8.1! Go get it! Windows 7 hates BF4! Windows 7 hates you!

The core parking fix is making the rounds. A dice employee commented on the reddit thread saying that Windows 8 handles the dynamic parking better and they are investigating. It might be the only reason Windows 8 is better, but if you turn off all parking there shouldn't be a difference between Windows 7 and 8.

http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield...pu_lag_in_battlefield_4_i_found_a_fix/cd6nuha

Anyways, I checked using this utility

http://www.coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility

and 3 of my cores were parked, so its conceivable that this would make a difference if Windows is constantly trying to throttle your cpu usage in the name of energy efficiency. I didnt have time to check it out this morning, but other people in the reddit thread are reporting positive results.

 

[smackababy]

frontal hits are like 18% damage now? back is like 35 though



Ive been 1HK by a rocket launcher in the chopper though

I've hit 2 choppers with RPGs and neither blew up; however, I've hit a few others that have. I've also put in a side hit on a tank and died immediately afterwards, they had 71 health. That is 4 RPGs per tank. It wasn't even a tank, but an armored truck thing.

The RPG needs a big damage boost. I don't mind the Stinger being a bit weak (because it is fire and forget), but any other launcher that requires constant lock should, at most, 2 hit a helicopter. Complete BS otherwise. That means it should take 3 rockets to take one down, if they pop flares.

It wouldn't be such a problem if other people actually tried to take down vehicles though. Sadly, it is like I'm the only person ever shooting at air or ground vehicles.

 

[moonbogg]

The core parking fix is making the rounds. A dice employee commented on the reddit thread saying that Windows 8 handles the dynamic parking better and they are investigating. It might be the only reason Windows 8 is better, but if you turn off all parking there shouldn't be a difference between Windows 7 and 8.

http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield...pu_lag_in_battlefield_4_i_found_a_fix/cd6nuha

Anyways, I checked using this utility

http://www.coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility

and 3 of my cores were parked, so its conceivable that this would make a difference if Windows is constantly trying to throttle your cpu usage in the name of energy efficiency. I didnt have time to check it out this morning, but other people in the reddit thread are reporting positive results.

It would be easy to test for someone with windows 7. A simple test with parking on and then off should produce results that are very obvious and easy to see. Do you have windows 7? Willing to do a quick test?
I have played with core parking before in windows 7 and it did nothing. Maybe BF4 is affected in a unique way by it. All I know is that I got a performance boost that I would have never suspected possible from an OS change. I figured maybe 5-10 FPS at best, but instead I got about a 40% increase and no more stuttering panning and glitchy movement. I'll continue to be shocked for at least a full week.

 

[Triglet]

I just want to get home to play with my super windows 8.1 BF4 rig from the future. It runs like my CPU is at 6ghz and I have dual Geforce GTX 880 Ultras. Windows 8.1! Go get it! Windows 7 hates BF4! Windows 7 hates you!

I want to see a real review that shows this in the retail release -- a few percent maybe, but 10%+? I'm having a hard time believing that. The beta ran like ass on my rig in W7 -- low GPU/high CPU usage. Retail has been the opposite, similar to BF3. 99% GPU usage and ≈70% CPU.

10% I'd probably upgrade, 2-3%? Pass.

 

[moonbogg]

I want to see a real review that shows this in the retail release -- a few percent maybe, but 10%+? I'm having a hard time believing that. The beta ran like ass on my rig in W7 -- low GPU/high CPU usage. Retail has been the opposite, similar to BF3. 99% GPU usage and ≈70% CPU.

10% I'd probably upgrade, 2-3%? Pass.

I did a test in two particular spots. The first was on shanghai. Across from the main tower, the one that falls down, there is a small building that is curved in the front and people tend to snipe from there. Standing on it and just looking toward the huge tower, in windows 7 I had about 50fps, sometimes a bit lower, and the panning was very rough and movement was choppy, sluggish and crappy.
I went back after installing 8.1, and the FPS was about 80-90, maybe as low as 75 or so. Perfectly smooth panning and movement. Very responsive and fluid. I don't know why 8.1 works better for me to such a ridiculous degree, and I honestly am not too worried about why. I am STOKED!

 

[Childs]

It would be easy to test for someone with windows 7. A simple test with parking on and then off should produce results that are very obvious and easy to see. Do you have windows 7? Willing to do a quick test?
I have played with core parking before in windows 7 and it did nothing. Maybe BF4 is affected in a unique way by it. All I know is that I got a performance boost that I would have never suspected possible from an OS change. I figured maybe 5-10 FPS at best, but instead I got about a 40% increase and no more stuttering panning and glitchy movement. I'll continue to be shocked for at least a full week.

I didn't have time before I went into work, and I know if I started to look at it next thing I know I'll be playing and have to use a vacation day. I'll check it out tonight though. 40% increase by using Windows 8 seems strange though, although people in the thread reported 15-25% fps increase while also moving from Med/High to Ultra settings.

 

[moonbogg]

I didn't have time before I went into work, and I know if I started to look at it next thing I know I'll be playing and have to use a vacation day. I'll check it out tonight though. 40% increase by using Windows 8 seems strange though, although people in the thread reported 15-25% fps increase while also moving from Med/High to Ultra settings.

Its possible something was jacked up with my windows 7 installation I suppose. It wasn't that old, but still you never know. Maybe it really is down to core parking, plus a little windows 8 optimization and combined together would have given a large increase. I may never know.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Its possible something was jacked up with my windows 7 installation I suppose. It wasn't that old, but still you never know. Maybe it really is down to core parking, plus a little windows 8 optimization and combined together would have given a large increase. I may never know.

All this talk about Win8 made me think about upgrading. Then I saw the prices and all the hassle of migrating and I'm like meeeeh.

 

[DeadFred]

I just want to get home to play with my super windows 8.1 BF4 rig from the future. It runs like my CPU is at 6ghz and I have dual Geforce GTX 880 Ultras. Windows 8.1! Go get it! Windows 7 hates BF4! Windows 7 hates you!

Woopty-Freakin'-Doo!!!!

My Windows 7 rig has run the game like that since Oct 29th. The beta ran like ass untile the last patch but the retail game is phenomonal......other than the server crashes.

 

[Kev]

It would be easy to test for someone with windows 7. A simple test with parking on and then off should produce results that are very obvious and easy to see. Do you have windows 7? Willing to do a quick test?
I have played with core parking before in windows 7 and it did nothing. Maybe BF4 is affected in a unique way by it. All I know is that I got a performance boost that I would have never suspected possible from an OS change. I figured maybe 5-10 FPS at best, but instead I got about a 40% increase and no more stuttering panning and glitchy movement. I'll continue to be shocked for at least a full week.

Yes it works. I've already posted this twice in this very thread. Read the thread people!!!

 

[LtMikePowelll]

My fps in any map is always fluctuate around 80-130 on Ultra 1080p but I don't use MSAA, cause smooth game play come first.

 

[Kev]

Now the game crashes within 2 minutes of joining a game every time. Different bullshit error message every time. I'm thinking about just getting a refund.

 

[DeadFred]

They'll get it fixed eventually, it took them a few weeks to get all the major bugs out of BF3.