nakedfrog
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Kaido
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Nestlé to cut 16,000 jobs globally amid cost reductions and AI concerns:
Kaido
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Nvidia at the centre of the circle jerk
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Nvidia to Finance Musk’s xAI Chips as Part of $20 Billion Deal
Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence startup xAI is raising more financing than initially planned, tapping backers including Nvidia Corp. to lift its ongoing funding round to $20 billion, according to people with knowledge of the matter.www.bloomberg.com
Kaido
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AI Is Killing Wikipedia’s Human Traffic:
gizmodo.com
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AI Is Killing Wikipedia’s Human Traffic
Wikipedia’s human traffic is declining as more people rely on AI tools for answers.
gizmodo.com
New User Trends on Wikipedia
Isiwal, CC BY-SA 4.0 via Wikimedia Commons In March, the Wikimedia Foundation shared about the global trends that are impacting our movement. These trends have continued to shape not only the Wikim…
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mikeymikec
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AI Is Killing Wikipedia’s Human Traffic:
AI Is Killing Wikipedia’s Human Traffic
Wikipedia’s human traffic is declining as more people rely on AI tools for answers.
New User Trends on Wikipedia
Isiwal, CC BY-SA 4.0 via Wikimedia Commons In March, the Wikimedia Foundation shared about the global trends that are impacting our movement. These trends have continued to shape not only the Wikim…
All part of the plan. In future, please insert money into AI for answers.
marees
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Money quote
The value of the gold being dug out is LESS than the cost of the shovels being used to dig that gold !!!
marees
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I asked grok
It says that this "AI bubble" is the outcome of an arms race fuelled by cash rich Microsoft/satya nadella (vs Google et al)
Now we know who to blame for our future apocalypse
It says that this "AI bubble" is the outcome of an arms race fuelled by cash rich Microsoft/satya nadella (vs Google et al)
Now we know who to blame for our future apocalypse
mikeymikec
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I'm generally of the opinion that AI in its current form (aside from some very niche applications) is going to fail hard, I'm in agreement with the market suspicion that it's a bubble that's going to burst (and IMO that burst is a good thing because the entire premise was flawed), however I'm increasingly of the opinion that those in the market driving for this sort of AI are doing so on a premise that makes sense: People want easy* answers, and AI can deliver on that.
* - please note I just used the word "easy", this does not imply a trifecta of say: easy, quick and accurate.
There's a quote from Incredibles 2 that I think is very appropriate:
"People want ease. People will trade quality for ease every time. It may be crap, but it's convenient!"
* - please note I just used the word "easy", this does not imply a trifecta of say: easy, quick and accurate.
There's a quote from Incredibles 2 that I think is very appropriate:
"People want ease. People will trade quality for ease every time. It may be crap, but it's convenient!"
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Kaido
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I agree with you that there is a hype bubble surrounding AI. It's also true though that it's not going away. Inside that bubble is a core of molten iron, I don't know how big it is compared to the entire bubble but you aren't dislodging it at this point.
Large swathes of human productivity will be run by AI very soon (depending on your version of very).
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The below is my opinion too
Nightcap: What about the argument that ChatGPT, while not perfect, is capable of doing some low-level grunt work could increase productivity?
Garran: There are certain bullsh*t jobs out there — some parts of management, consultancy, jobs where people don’t check if you’re getting it right or don’t know if you’ve got it right. So you can argue that you can replace bullsh*t with bullsh*t, and, yes, OK, I’m prepared to accept that you probably can, but that doesn’t really make it more broadly useful.
However I think in order to recover the sunk costs, everything in this world will be enshittified so that AI can replace them then
Kaido
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The reason for this is simple:
* The brain is an energy gatekeeper
We all live with an internal 2-party system:
1. Our mind (conscious choices)
2. Our brain (energy manager)
Our mind works off iteration (step execution, ie. actually doing things), whereas our brain works off ideas. Those ideas are subject to being controlled by our "energy perspective" (i.e. how much energy we have available at the time to cope with imagining doing them). That's why we'll put off doing the laundry all week (idea), when in reality it's a simple 10-minute job: (steps)
1. Dump dirty clothes in washer & run (2 minutes)
2. Swap washer to dryer an hour later (1 minute)
3. Fold one batch of laundry (~7 minutes max for a large load)
This is called the HCEG (Hot-Cold Empathy Gap). Basically:
1. In our cold logical state, we make confident plans
2. Later, in our hot emotional state, those plans fall apart, because we failed to take into account the variable energy states that drive mood
This applies to literally everything:
* Signing up for a gym membership & then not wanting to go
* Trying to quit addictions like smoking, but then caving when the urge hits
* Buying salads at the grocery store, but then getting drive-thru fast food on the way home
As an energy filter, the brain does the following behavior by default:
* Takes the path of least resistance
This, however, is misunderstood! There are 2 key factors in understanding that reality:
1. The brain is an energy scrooge...but not across the board! It will allocate unlimited energy for things you WANT to do (such as play video game for 6 hours straight until midnight), but then zap your energy to do the dishes lol.
2. The path of least resistance is NOT the most simple path, unlike Occam's Razor! It is the path that requires the LEAST amount of energy expenditure, which means taking the path we already know because it requires ZERO energy to figure out! This is why habits & addictions rule our lives & why it's so hard to actually change! It's not about desire, but rather, ENERGY!
This is what makes what I call the "lull of complacency" so dangerous: when things are "good enough", we tend to buy in & quit! Sample situations:
1. Getting to a point where we are comfortable in life. 85% of people hate their job
2. Tesla Full-Self-Driving has been responsible for hundreds of crashes. The system is VERY good for what it is , but requires constant driver vigilance because it's just good enough to lull people into that complacency trap. Without exception, every single Tesla driver I know plays on their phone in FSD mode.
3. I personally consider food to be the #1 preventatable killer in America. We are 40%obese, 50% diabetic, and 73% overweight. 73% of the American supply chain is ultra-processed food!
4. ChatGPT hallucinates...but, like fast food, it is "good enough" for most people!
There will ALWAYS be a HUGE market for convenience because human beings operate off emotion-based motivation (tactical living, based on mood) instead of commitment-based motivation (strategic living, based on systems). This means that there are ENORMOUS opportunities for those who are willing to design & sell convenience! For example, supermarket checkout aisle impulse purchases like gum, mints, and candy bars is a $6 BILLION dollar market:
Nearly nine out of ten American households visited a McDonald's in the past year. They do $26 BILLION in sales worldwide annually:
McDonald's Revenue 2011-2025 | MCD
McDonald's annual/quarterly revenue history and growth rate from 2011 to 2025. Revenue can be defined as the amount of money a company receives from its customers in exchange for the sales of goods or services. Revenue is the top line item on an income statement from which all costs and...
www.macrotrends.net
Just look at their effort-reduction tactics:
1. Can get food from walking in, the rive-thru, parking lot delivery via the app, and courier delivery
2. Same reliable flavor every time, which appeals to our automaticity (you never know how homemade dinner will turn out!)
3. Affordable to the majority of Americans, despite recent inflation
3. No effort to cook required
4. No effort to clean required (no dishes!)
5. Decision fatigue reduction (3 entree options: beef, chicken, fish. 3 dessert options: ice cream, pies, cookies).
ChatGPT is used by more than 750 million people, which is nearly 10% of the world’s population! At the current growth rate, it will surpass Google for the number of daily searches by next year:
I have NEVER seen a technology adopted so fast by the average non-technical consumer, not even smartphones! Here's some Internet nostaglia for you:
And today, 17 years later:
nakedfrog
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Why the fuck do we need AI to verify a picture a human is taking of another human at the DMV? What's the point?
futurism.com
(That article is mostly just repackaging part of a Wired article, which takes a subscription, it describes the difficulties some other folks have with facial recognition as well)
www.wired.com
DMV's AI System Says Woman Doesn't Have a Human Face
AI deployments have a problem: they can humiliate people who don't look the way the AI expects them to look.
futurism.com
(That article is mostly just repackaging part of a Wired article, which takes a subscription, it describes the difficulties some other folks have with facial recognition as well)
When Face Recognition Doesn’t Know Your Face Is a Face
An estimated 100 million people live with facial differences. As face recognition tech becomes widespread, some say they’re getting blocked from accessing essential systems and services.
Kaido
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Watch out for the Meta Ban Wave:
Facebook and Instagram users complain of account bans
After Meta said some Facebook Groups were wrongly suspended, users tell the BBC the impact it is having - and say it's a wider problem.
www.bbc.com
Meta admits wrongly suspending Facebook Groups
Group administrators have reported receiving automated messages which incorrectly say they have violated the rules.
www.bbc.com
Angry, confused and worried about police – behind Instagram bans
Hundreds of people have contacted the BBC to say they have wrongly been shut out of their accounts.
www.bbc.com
Facebook started a ban for various good reasons over summer (harmful content etc.), but then businesses & non-offenders also got perma-banned...people with 15+ year old accounts, Instagram accounts, Quest headset accounts & all associated purposes, small biz pages, etc. For the past few weeks, there's been an appeal loop where people can NEVER get back in. It seems to be a mix of an overzealous AI auto-moderator, a faulty Meta update, and the AWS downtime that has gotten worse. There are rumors that millions of accounts are just completely gone:
Legally solve problems with Instagram and Facebook
Solving problems with your Instagram or Facebook account. We help you legally restore a disabled account, regain access to a hacked account, fix problems with advertising on Instagram or Facebook.
social-me.co.uk
It's easy to brush it of as "good, leave Facebook!"), but deplatforming can be HUGELY isolating for people, especially disabled people, as well as business-reducing for so many small businesses. I have friends who rely on FB & IG for selling their services like baking, nails, car detailing, etc. Cambodia in particular has so many bans that the government had to get involved due to the account-restore scams going on:
This is the future, right now, today:
1. Your whole life & business engrained on social media
2. AI ban with no human intervention
3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kaido
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Of ChatGPT's 800 million users, just 5% pay:
www.theregister.com
ChatGPT: so popular, hardly anyone will pay for it
: If you build it, they will come and expect the service to be free
Kaido
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Watch out for the Meta Ban Wave:
Facebook and Instagram users complain of account bans
After Meta said some Facebook Groups were wrongly suspended, users tell the BBC the impact it is having - and say it's a wider problem.
Meta admits wrongly suspending Facebook Groups
Group administrators have reported receiving automated messages which incorrectly say they have violated the rules.
Angry, confused and worried about police – behind Instagram bans
Hundreds of people have contacted the BBC to say they have wrongly been shut out of their accounts.
Facebook started a ban for various good reasons over summer (harmful content etc.), but then businesses & non-offenders also got perma-banned...people with 15+ year old accounts, Instagram accounts, Quest headset accounts & all associated purposes, small biz pages, etc. For the past few weeks, there's been an appeal loop where people can NEVER get back in. It seems to be a mix of an overzealous AI auto-moderator, a faulty Meta update, and the AWS downtime that has gotten worse. There are rumors that millions of accounts are just completely gone:
Legally solve problems with Instagram and Facebook
Solving problems with your Instagram or Facebook account. We help you legally restore a disabled account, regain access to a hacked account, fix problems with advertising on Instagram or Facebook.
It's easy to brush it of as "good, leave Facebook!"), but deplatforming can be HUGELY isolating for people, especially disabled people, as well as business-reducing for so many small businesses. I have friends who rely on FB & IG for selling their services like baking, nails, car detailing, etc. Cambodia in particular has so many bans that the government had to get involved due to the account-restore scams going on:
This is the future, right now, today:
1. Your whole life & business engrained on social media
2. AI ban with no human intervention
3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Medical support & automatic AI moderation:
AI moderation of online health communities
AI moderation threatens caregiver support in online health communities. These groups are vital public health infrastructure and need engagement, not censorship.
kevinmd.com
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