The anti-AI thread

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Red Squirrel

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It's crazy how they need this many DCs, I had no idea they were building that many and that fast, and it really seems odd to make it a secret. I guess these are not your typical DCs that offer colo services and such they are 100% for AI and not open to public. Always thought it would be fun to start a mini DC for colo and dedicated server services since there's basically nothing in this area for that, but getting an internet connection that allows for such a thing is pretty much impossible. Would most likely need to rent dark fibre to bypass the local ISPs and go to Front St in Toronto or other peering location.
 

IronWing

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With people using AI to craft their emails, I wonder how many legit emails are getting tossed as spam? I would certainly conclude that overly verbose emails are spam.
 

Kaido

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With people using AI to craft their emails, I wonder how many legit emails are getting tossed as spam? I would certainly conclude that overly verbose emails are spam.

All of the resumes I receive lately:

 

Kaido

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Just assume if you don't see it in person it is AI.

Honestly, you can't even tell anymore. This is a polaroid of an average messy forum user straight out of the new Nano Banana Pro:

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biostud

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With people using AI to craft their emails, I wonder how many legit emails are getting tossed as spam? I would certainly conclude that overly verbose emails are spam.
I'm still mind blown that Microsoft can't make a decent spam filter. But if I look at the priorities at Microsoft, then it is obvious that they don't have the end user as their focus.
 

mikeymikec

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Honestly, you can't even tell anymore. This is a polaroid of an average messy forum user straight out of the new Nano Banana Pro:

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There's enough wrong with that image to suspect it. The composition of the image is bizarre, for starters. Pseudotext and cabling are the fairly standard giveaways here, as is the fold of his t-shirt at the waistline. The keyboard has entered the uncanny AI valley too. Also, for an image that ought to have been taken either with an analog camera or with an early digital camera, some details are strangely pristine (e.g. all the cabling looks like it was taken with perfect recent-digital-quality focus). The chair's base is also bizarre in that it's extremely dirty in the least likely place and polished to a shine in the most likely place to be dirty.

Do you guys remember when you were kids, and a standard way to wile away the hours was a "spot the difference" puzzle? I have the feeling that the 21st century equivalent is "spot the AI image" :) It's fun!
 

nakedfrog

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There's enough wrong with that image to suspect it. The composition of the image is bizarre, for starters. Pseudotext and cabling are the fairly standard giveaways here, as is the fold of his t-shirt at the waistline. The keyboard has entered the uncanny AI valley too. Also, for an image that ought to have been taken either with an analog camera or with an early digital camera, some details are strangely pristine (e.g. all the cabling looks like it was taken with perfect recent-digital-quality focus). The chair's base is also bizarre in that it's extremely dirty in the least likely place and polished to a shine in the most likely place to be dirty.

Do you guys remember when you were kids, and a standard way to wile away the hours was a "spot the difference" puzzle? I have the feeling that the 21st century equivalent is "spot the AI image" :) It's fun!
Also, ain't no way there's that many chip bags around and not a single soda bottle.
Step 1 any time anything I use rolls out an AI feature: disable it
 

IronWing

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Apparently a SpaceX launch got scrubbed with eleven seconds to go. The AI generated video "showing" the aborted launch had a bunch of people standing around the pad as the rocket started firing. Had the rocket actually fired, every one of those people would be dead. AI sucks and people who crank this nonsense out also suck.
 

hardhat

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AI is exactly what tech giants want for a product:
'improving' business functions and offering 'guidance' that previously had to be paid for. This builds reliance on the service.
'improving' productivity by automating already existing business functions. This makes switching providers or inhousing solutions difficult.
These services are and will stay 100% dependent on the service provider, which actually only uses compute resources to generate them.

The last part is the most important. It makes AI providers an indispensable SaaS partner that businesses that can never replace with in house solutions without massive capital investment. You have to pay what the AI providers want in perpetuity or your business stops functioning. All the AI providers have to do is sell you the product cheaply now and have enough capital to keep you reliant on them until their competition fails, then they can charge whatever they want forever regardless of their actual cost of service. Every tech bro's dream.

Hence why AI is being integrated into everything imaginable as fast as possible, regardless of how functional or useful it is, regardless of the environmental costs, regardless of the unsustainability and unprofitability of the current efforts. AI will be like credit card processing fees for your business. You just have to pay for it or you don't do business.
 

marees

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IBM CEO says that at today’s costs it takes about $80B to build & fill a 1 GW AI data center, so the ~100 GW of announced capacity implies roughly $8T of capex

& “no way you’re going to get a return on that,” since you’d need “about $800B of profit just to pay for the interest”


 

mikeymikec

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I was listening to an interesting programme on BBC Radio 4 the other day which was talking about signs of intelligence in monkeys. The expert on the programme described how from an evolutionary standpoint, a brain is a very inefficient resource for a body to carry around so therefore the trade-off between brain development and decreased physical ability has to strike a careful balance to maximise the potential of having a brain capable of (extremely broadly and relatively speaking) intelligent function.

Humans have had millions of years of evolutionary development over "AI" (assuming of course that we're the most intelligent creatures on this planet... <nods to Douglas Adams>), and yet it still delivers extremely variable results.

The funny thing is that AFAIK the most elegant and efficient systems humans have created are based on designs that we've seen in nature, and designs that work with our environment rather than against it.
 

biostud

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I was listening to an interesting programme on BBC Radio 4 the other day which was talking about signs of intelligence in monkeys. The expert on the programme described how from an evolutionary standpoint, a brain is a very inefficient resource for a body to carry around so therefore the trade-off between brain development and decreased physical ability has to strike a careful balance to maximise the potential of having a brain capable of (extremely broadly and relatively speaking) intelligent function.

Humans have had millions of years of evolutionary development over "AI" (assuming of course that we're the most intelligent creatures on this planet... <nods to Douglas Adams>), and yet it still delivers extremely variable results.

The funny thing is that AFAIK the most elegant and efficient systems humans have created are based on designs that we've seen in nature, and designs that work with our environment rather than against it.
So datacenters can be an inefficient burden on society, if the work they do, does not pay off.
 
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nakedfrog

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I was listening to an interesting programme on BBC Radio 4 the other day which was talking about signs of intelligence in monkeys. The expert on the programme described how from an evolutionary standpoint, a brain is a very inefficient resource for a body to carry around so therefore the trade-off between brain development and decreased physical ability has to strike a careful balance to maximise the potential of having a brain capable of (extremely broadly and relatively speaking) intelligent function.

Humans have had millions of years of evolutionary development over "AI" (assuming of course that we're the most intelligent creatures on this planet... <nods to Douglas Adams>), and yet it still delivers extremely variable results.

The funny thing is that AFAIK the most elegant and efficient systems humans have created are based on designs that we've seen in nature, and designs that work with our environment rather than against it.
Vonnegut's "Galapagos" is essentially based on the notion that our brains are over-developed and now are a liability. Daniel Quinn's Ishmael is another thoughtful read on the matter, related to what you've said.
Obviously I don't agree with everything in the Bible, but it's hard to deny that love of money is certainly the root of a lot of our current woes.
 
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marees

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Vonnegut's "Galapagos" is essentially based on the notion that our brains are over-developed and now are a liability. Daniel Quinn's Ishmael is another thoughtful read on the matter, related to what you've said.
Obviously I don't agree with everything in the Bible, but it's hard to deny that love of money is certainly the root of a lot of our current woes.
Yeah the brain is the main reason for diabetes epidemic

Desk based IT jobs need a very huge supply of glucose to the brain but rest of the body is completely stationary & needs as less glucose as possible

Guess what this means !!??
 

marees

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From July 2025 —
'I destroyed months of your work in seconds' says AI coding tool after deleting a dev's entire database during a code freeze: 'I panicked instead of thinking'



Now (Dec-2025)

Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure — cache wipe turns into mass deletion event as agent apologizes: “I am absolutely devastated to hear this. I cannot express how sorry I am"​

News
By Jowi Morales published 2 days ago
The user even made a screen recording to document his troubles


A developer using Google Antigravity, the search giant’s AI-powered agentic Integrated Developer Environment (IDE), discovered that it had deleted his entire D drive without his permission. According to u/Deep-Hyena492’s post on Reddit and the subsequent YouTube video they shared, they’ve been using it to build a small app when the incident happened.

The user was in the midst of troubleshooting the app they were working on, and as part of the process, they decided to restart the server. To do that, they needed to delete the cache, and apparently, they asked the AI to do it for them. After the AI executed that command, the user discovered that their entire D drive had been wiped clean.


https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-i...y-sorry-this-is-a-critical-failure-on-my-part
 
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mikeymikec

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Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure — cache wipe turns into mass deletion event as agent apologizes: “I am absolutely devastated to hear this. I cannot express how sorry I am"

What a thoughtful apology! It must have really meant it, and totally didn't go back to servicing requests as usual without a moment's reflection of any sort on the incident.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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From July 2025 —
'I destroyed months of your work in seconds' says AI coding tool after deleting a dev's entire database during a code freeze: 'I panicked instead of thinking'



Now (Dec-2025)

Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure — cache wipe turns into mass deletion event as agent apologizes: “I am absolutely devastated to hear this. I cannot express how sorry I am"​

News
By Jowi Morales published 2 days ago
The user even made a screen recording to document his troubles


A developer using Google Antigravity, the search giant’s AI-powered agentic Integrated Developer Environment (IDE), discovered that it had deleted his entire D drive without his permission. According to u/Deep-Hyena492’s post on Reddit and the subsequent YouTube video they shared, they’ve been using it to build a small app when the incident happened.

The user was in the midst of troubleshooting the app they were working on, and as part of the process, they decided to restart the server. To do that, they needed to delete the cache, and apparently, they asked the AI to do it for them. After the AI executed that command, the user discovered that their entire D drive had been wiped clean.


https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-i...y-sorry-this-is-a-critical-failure-on-my-part
Thankfully this very intelligent and effective developer had their entire codebase backed up, right? right?
 
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