The anti-AI thread

[lxskllr]

Careful, that's a fun rabbit hole lol:

* AGT H12 baby home excavator
* $8k delivered
* 7-week delivery time from China

Or a bigger 1.8-ton class HT18 mini excavator:

* $13k delivered
* 1-week lead-time from a U.S. importer
* Towable on a 7k trailer

This is the sweet spot as smallest "real" excavator. You get 80% of a $25k Kubota for half the price!

What I'd love to do is get an HT18 & a Kei truck-style dump truck with a lift kit for farm use:

https://youtu.be/c2XMOKlx0EY?t=115

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I've heard fairly positive comments on the Chinese equipment. It isn't something I've looked into, but a concern of mine would be parts availability going forward. Equipment is a long term investment, and the possibility of losing the parts supply would make it less attractive. Ideal situation is they're Kubota clones, and Kubota OEM would fit. That's a good way to upgrade problematic parts also, but that compatibility is a big "if". I'd want to research thoroughly before making a purchase. A used big name might be the better long term deal.

 

[lxskllr]

Pretty sure this is old news, but counterfeit music on spotify...

Is Spotify Enabling Massive Impersonation of Famous Jazz Musicians?

How did trumpet legend Nat Adderley become a white guy playing with a three-handed bassist?

www.honest-broker.com

I don't have first hand understanding of the scale cause I don't do streaming aside from "radio", and the "radio" I listen to is all top quality.

 

[Steltek]

Get a used HP Z8 G4 barebones! That's my favorite refurb tower for mega-builds!

* If you're not in a rush, basic chassis go for $800 on eBay
* SUPER easy to work on!
* Up to 3 TERABYTES of RAM
* 7x PCIe slots = up to 4x double-slot GPU's
* Can run modern 5090's
* 1125, 1450, and 1700 watt power supplies
* Max = dual 28-core Xeon Platinum 8280 = 56 cores @ 112 threads total (2.7 GHz base & ~4.0 GHz turbo)
* These go for as low as $350 on eBay, if you're in no rush!
* Fastest = dual 16-core Xeon Gold 6246R = 32 cores @ 64 threads total (3.4 GHz base & ~4.1 GHz turbo)

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I literally had a Z8 G4 at checkout on eBay three times in August of last year along with a load of (then, very much cheaper) compatible DDR4 memory. Like an idiot, I talked myself out of buying it all three times and have regretted it every day since.

Being a fiscally responsible retiree just sucks beyond the telling sometimes.

We'll see what happens when I finally get my taxes filed this year --- may just have to start piecing one together over a few months.

 

[nakedfrog]

Pretty sure this is old news, but counterfeit music on spotify...

Is Spotify Enabling Massive Impersonation of Famous Jazz Musicians?

How did trumpet legend Nat Adderley become a white guy playing with a three-handed bassist?

www.honest-broker.com

I don't have first hand understanding of the scale cause I don't do streaming aside from "radio", and the "radio" I listen to is all top quality.

It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.

 

[jpiniero]

It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.

Funny thing is I think normies wouldn't even care if Spotify used fake artist names for AI music.

 

[Kaido]

I literally had a Z8 G4 at checkout on eBay three times in August of last year along with a load of (then, very much cheaper) compatible DDR4 memory. Like an idiot, I talked myself out of buying it all three times and have regretted it every day since.

Being a fiscally responsible retiree just sucks beyond the telling sometimes.

We'll see what happens when I finally get my taxes filed this year --- may just have to start piecing one together over a few months.

Yeah, they've been "discovered", so now bare-minimum bootable ones go $1,000 to $1,500. Still a good deal over $20,000 new!!

 

[Kaido]

It's a pretty large scale issue I think, in various genres I've seen people asking why various long defunct bands suddenly have new music out, and it often doesn't even sound like the original band. Been seeing it for months, maybe a year now even. Spotify is slow to act because they DGAF and are pro-AI music to pad their own pockets. I don't really spend time in jazz spaces other than playing it IRL with people, but I'm not surprised it's hitting them too.

Oh it's crazy out there

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