The Angry Rich

[CycloWizard]

Huh? So you want to tax folk who have so little now they are called the poor. You want to tax their lunch money, dinner money, child care money, etc. You want to take from those who already haven't enough to live a decent live? You aren't worried about this but you are worried about the rich? Oh but that's right. All these poor people are poor because the lack ambition and want to leach. How wonderful it must be to have an excuse for that kind of thinking. You'd really look like a piece of shit if you didn't have it.

I never said one word about taxing the poor. Illiterate prick.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Ahh, po' babies. If they don't like the dues, they're always free to leave the club. Awfully funny how few of them do, however. They want all the privileges and perks of living here -- including their fabulous wealth -- but they don't want to pay the tab when it comes due.

Wait, wh ydo they need to pay the tab for services they will never use?
That's a total crock of shit. If you want taxation to be fair, the poor should pay a higher percentage as they are the ones that use more government services.

Stop being a jealous bitch, which is what anyone that says "tax the rich more they can afford it", is.

 

[spidey07]

Never heard of this "anger" of the rich.

Seems the the author invents or exaggerates a notion (angry rich people), dissects it, and then looks like a hero.

Oh it's extremely prevalent. It's why business, executives and dual income white collar families hate obama.

 

[drebo]

I have a really hard time caring, to be honest. The rich have enjoyed accelerated growth of their wealth while the middle and lower have been stagnant, for years now.

Place blame where blame is due: inflation. That's what really stifles the growth of buying power in the lower and middle classes.

 

[Paratus]

Wait, wh ydo they need to pay the tab for services they will never use?
That's a total crock of shit. If you want taxation to be fair, the poor should pay a higher percentage as they are the ones that use more government services.

Stop being a jealous bitch, which is what anyone that says "tax the rich more they can afford it", is.

Are you actually suggesting that the " rich" don't use government services?

I'm fairly certain that virtually all "rich" derive enormous value from such government services as copyright protection, patents, diplomacy to protect copy rights and patents, the judicial system, etc.

Or do these not count as govt. services?

 

[IronWing]

I think this is all that needs to be pointed out about krugman and those who lap up his sort of drivel. To krugman and the slime that nod to his BS - it's not your money - it's the gov'ts.

The same system that bequeathed upon the rich the power to accumulate wealth based on the labor of others can also take it away. Capitalism and capitalists absolutely depend on government for survival.

 

[JMapleton]

Oh it's extremely prevalent. It's why business, executives and dual income white collar families hate obama.

You're being ridiculous. They do not "hate" Obama. They may disagree with him, but the author is making the article sound like people are rising their firsts in pure revolutionary anger against him.

I disagree with Obama 100%, but I do not hate him.

It's people who do who make political commentary in this country so ridiculous and unprofessional (everyone from Rush Limbaugh to Michael Moore or Bill Mayer).

 

[soulcougher73]

:thumbsup: Spot on.

 

[soulcougher73]

Never heard of this "anger" of the rich.

Seems the the author invents or exaggerates a notion (angry rich people), dissects it, and then looks like a hero.

That's because you are not rich nor hang out in their circles. If you did, as the politicians do then you would know what big cry babies they are.

I can haz whole pie?

 

[child of wonder]

Oh it's extremely prevalent. It's why business, executives and dual income white collar families hate obama.

There you are. I got to post #50 and didn't see your name yet and began to get worried something had happened to you.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nice try junior but it doesn't change anything. The point is - your types (krugman, bowfinger, the OP, socialists in general) think of money as the gov'ts(for society or whatever they want it for) instead of the earner.

Also, here we have yet another example of a leftist trying to claim the opposition wants a zero/no/zilch and then trying to argue against it. When you can be honest - please try to address the issue again.

You keep forgeting this part "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society."

Apparently you dont want a civilized society. You want a have and have not. Or kings and peasent version of society. Try to think not only of yourself for once. We are all in this together.

 

[Atreus21]

The same system that bequeathed upon the rich the power to accumulate wealth based on the labor of others can also take it away. Capitalism and capitalists absolutely depend on government for survival.

Just like everyone else.

 

[soulcougher73]

In that case we should increase taxes on the poor since they are the only people in the country not paying anything at all.

Yeah lets make the poor poorer. That should make you feel better.

Poor rich people. Whatever will they do with all their money. So civilized.

 

[drebo]

You keep forgeting this part "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society."

Apparently you dont want a civilized society. You want a have and have not. Or kings and peasent version of society. Try to think not only of yourself for once. We are all in this together.

Oh, no, we certainly want a "civilized society". We simply believe that it's possible for the federal government to provide one without a 50+% tax rate and without the government running massive deficits and without the government attempting to legislate every aspect of life.

 

[IronWing]

Just like everyone else.

Yes.

 

[JMapleton]

That's because you are not rich nor hang out in their circles. If you did, as the politicians do then you would know what big cry babies they are.

And you know this how? I deal with many wealthy clients and I live in the richest area of my city, which is one of the richest cities per capita in the country (more billioniares per capita than any city in the world). Most people in my part of town actually supported Obama and vote moderate Democrat. I live 1000ft away our Senator, who is a democrat. My apartment overlooks a $4m house.

 

[JeepinEd]

There are people who risk everything, including their health and home, to create a successful business. It's the American dream. Ironically, the more successful a person becomes, the more they are reviled by the left. They feel that a person who risked it all and busted his ass to get ahead should be punished for their success and the person who risked nothing should be rewarded.

This viewpoint is very evident in this thread.

 

[JMapleton]

There are people who risk everything, including their health and home, to create a successful business. It's the American dream. Ironically, the more successful a person becomes, the more they are reviled by the left. They feel that a person who risked it all and busted his ass to get ahead should be punished for their success and the person who risked nothing should be rewarded.

This viewpoint is very evident in this thread.

Well said.

I'm also a business owner. And I don't hate Obama. Although I disagree with his policies.

 

[dank69]

There are people who risk everything, including their health and home, to create a successful business. It's the American dream. Ironically, the more successful a person becomes, the more they are reviled by the left. They feel that a person who risked it all and busted his ass to get ahead should be punished for their success and the person who risked nothing should be rewarded.

This viewpoint is very evident in this thread.

While building that business, did they fill the jobs they created with americans or did they offshore most of them? I don't think the successful business model can avoid offshoring as much as possible.

 

[JMapleton]

While building that business, did they fill the jobs they created with americans or did they offshore most of them? I don't think the successful business model can avoid offshoring as much as possible.

If they did offshore, what difference would it make?

You fail to understand the purpose America was built on was a completely free country. Even if that freedom meant self destruction.

I'll take freedom and all the negatives and positives that comes with it. I don't want people playing with the social and economy "knobs" trying to create some Utopia.

 

[woolfe9999]

Place blame where blame is due: inflation. That's what really stifles the growth of buying power in the lower and middle classes.

We haven't had any unusual amount of inflation during the time in which, as Stageleft put it, "the rich have enjoyed accelerated growth of their wealth while the middle and lower have been stagnant, for years now." Small inflation is only a problem when real wages do not go up, which has happened to the middle and lower income classes in this country. No, it clearly isn't inflation. Try again.

- wolf

 

[woolfe9999]

DP

 

[dank69]

If they did offshore, what difference would it make?

You fail to understand the purpose America was built on was a completely free country. Even if that freedom meant self destruction.

I'll take freedom and all the negatives and positives that comes with it. I don't want people playing with the social and economy "knobs" trying to create some Utopia.

Shouldn't we try to stop the destruction?

 

[JMapleton]

We haven't had any unusual amount of inflation during the time in which, as Stageleft put it, "the rich have enjoyed accelerated growth of their wealth while the middle and lower have been stagnant, for years now." Small inflation is only a problem when real wages do not go up, which has happened to the middle and lower income classes in this country. No, it clearly isn't inflation. Try again.

Incorrect. The true inflation rate, which is the cost of living, has rose quicker than wages, so it's both. Inflation and slagging wage growth.

The rich are invested in inflation fighting investments, while many of the middle class spend their last time on material goods. Meanwhile in China, the middle class and poor, despite living poor, still manage to save money and invest in businesses and industry.

The middle class cannot grow unless they invest. You don't grow the 1960s way, by unions and wage increases. You need to invest and compound your earnings.

 

[JMapleton]

Shouldn't we try to stop the destruction?

No. No destruction is permanent (look at Germany and Japan), countries can always rebuild. Give me all the negatives and positives of freedom.

I'll be crowned a king by capitalism or made a pauper. I'll take the risk as opposed to living in the chains of socialism which just makes everyone poor and the politicians and crony capitalists rich.

Despite this, I still don't "hate" Obama. I in fact respect him as someone who at least tries to be honest.