The Aliens. Are we gonna talk about it?

[cytg111]

So some credible whistleblower is blowing everything up. I cant even. Every time I begin reading one of these articles I begin chuckling, its not a good look on a grown man.

I dont even know where to start, read the first page here, and at the end he is listing all the (credible?) publications on the subject matter. There is a-lot.

BREAKING NEWS: Federal Whistleblower Called “Credible” by Intelligence Community Inspector General Says U.S. Military Has “Quite a Number” of Spacecraft in Custody of “Non-Human” Origin

Allegation by whistleblower—a former top intel official in the U.S. government—would establish, for the first time in history, the existence of other highly advanced intelligent life in the universe.

sethabramson.substack.com

I have two explanations for this, one mass hoax hysteria and psychedelics OR a military psyops campaign. If you can convince the Chinese that you got alien space lasers ready to go they might think twice about... everything. If I recall my history correct it wouldnt be the first time a nation tried to pull one of these "crazies" (and it worked).

 

[hal2kilo]

So some credible whistleblower is blowing everything up. I cant even. Every time I begin reading one of these articles I begin chuckling, its not a good look on a grown man.

I dont even know where to start, read the first page here, and at the end he is listing all the (credible?) publications on the subject matter. There is a-lot.

BREAKING NEWS: Federal Whistleblower Called “Credible” by Intelligence Community Inspector General Says U.S. Military Has “Quite a Number” of Spacecraft in Custody of “Non-Human” Origin

Allegation by whistleblower—a former top intel official in the U.S. government—would establish, for the first time in history, the existence of other highly advanced intelligent life in the universe.

sethabramson.substack.com

I have two explanations for this, one mass hoax hysteria and psychedelics OR a military psyops campaign. If you can convince the Chinese that you got alien space lasers ready to go they might think twice about... everything. If I recall my history correct it wouldnt be the first time a nation tried to pull one of these "crazies" (and it worked).

NM can't find delete draft anymore. Keep on chang'n just to change.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Nope. Nothing to really talk about. One person claims he has seen alien spaceships. That is it. That is all there is to say.

 

[hal2kilo]

An interesting take on all of this, is that deeply religious military people, don't want us to know about the devil.
It would be unbelievably arrogant to not think that billions of planets with billions of years of evolution would not have created multiple intelligent species throughout the universe.

 

[Roger Wilco]

NASA will publish their first report sometime in early July.

“A team of 16 experts and scientists assembled by NASA aims to publish its first report on unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as unidentified flying objects, or UFOS, by midsummer.

“Unidentified anomalous phenomena has truly captured the attention of the public, of the scientific community and nowadays, the US government as well, and we at NASA strongly believe that it’s our responsibility all working together to investigate these with the scientific scrutiny that NASA is well known for,” said Dan Evans, assistant deputy associate administrator for research, NASA’s Science Mission Directorate.

“We’ve tasked (the team) with helping NASA produce a roadmap, a roadmap that doesn’t necessarily look back at previous grainy footage, sort of acknowledges that many UAPs historically we’ll never be able to get to the bottom because the data are of such poor quality,” Evans said on Wednesday.

NASA team to issue report on UFOs in July | CNN

An independent team assembled by NASA will publish its first report on unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as unidentified flying objects, or UFOs, by the end of July.

amp.cnn.com

 

[SMOGZINN]

An interesting take on all of this, is that deeply religious military people, don't want us to know about the devil.
It would be unbelievably arrogant to not think that billions of planets with billions of years of evolution would not have created multiple intelligent species throughout the universe.

Of course it seems ridiculous. But, to paraphrase Fermi, then where are they?
Anyway the question is not if there is other life out there, it is can they cross the great expanse that is interstellar space to visit other solar systems. That seems unlikely.

But, if they can, their technology would be nothing short of godlike and the odds that we 'recover' something like a interstellar craft from such an advanced civilization seems unlikely. One would assume that a race that advanced would have some sort of failsafe to prevent the primitive cultures they are studying from taking their tech.
Afterall they build something that could travel across the vast stretches of time and space, surely it is not going to be overcome by some apes with the technological equivalent of pointy sticks.

 

[cytg111]

Nope. Nothing to really talk about. One person claims he has seen alien spaceships. That is it. That is all there is to say.

Well, no. Its not just him, read the first page(s), Congress critters as well.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Well, no. Its not just him, read the first page(s), Congress critters as well.

A Congress Critter. One. The others that talked about basically said they had never heard anything about this before.
My impression is that that one is just playing to the conspiracy nuts in his party, which seem to be a significant voting block.

 

[trenchfoot]

An interesting take on all of this, is that deeply religious military people, don't want us to know about the devil.
It would be unbelievably arrogant to not think that billions of planets with billions of years of evolution would not have created multiple intelligent species throughout the universe.

I'm into astrophotography and every time I scan for deep space objects I get more convinced that us sentient late comers from earth believing that we are all alone in this huge unfathomable universe "of ours" is much more silly than the last time I took a look through the eyepiece.

And after perusing the thousands of images that the Hubble and James Webb Space Scopes have produced I wouldn't be surprised at all that in the near future they and its successors will break the myth of us lowly humans being the ONLY intelligent life forms in the vastness of the universe.

When it comes to the topic at hand, being close-minded is the last thing any of us should be.

edit - And yes, I contributed a lot of bandwidth in support of the SETI Project.

 

[Leeea]

Your cruising down the highway and your on 1/2 a tank of gas. You looking to pick up some h20, maybe stretch your legs, and their is a nice green jewel floating off in the distance.

You get a big closer and an abrupt flashes appear on the jewel. Seems some they are detonating dirty fission and fusion devices in the atmosphere. Only insane lunatics do that. Everyone knows radioactives shorten every-ones lives on the planet a little bit via cancer every nuke detonated.

You quietly shift into the far left lane, and press the accelerator down. There will be a better safer stop soon enough. No need to roll the dice with a bunch of insane crazies. Safe civilizations don't built the weapons of self destruction in the first place. Survival 101.

Let the anthropology types with their military grade systems study that planet if they feel like it. Another ph D. based on the self destruction of violent civilizations. Perhaps on spontaneous self suicide? or just cooking themselves to death in their own atmosphere with exponential greed. Either way, whoever writes the paper will likely need a millennia of psychiatric care to get over the horrors.

As for you and your family? Your winnebago has more then enough fuel to make clear to the next three galaxies. There will be a better stop.

 

[cytg111]

I'm into astrophotography and every time I scan for deep space objects I get more convinced that us sentient late comers from earth believing that we are all alone in this huge unfathomable universe "of ours" is much more silly than the last time I took a look through the eyepiece.

And after perusing the thousands of images that the Hubble and James Webb Space Scopes have produced I wouldn't be surprised at all that in the near future they and its successors will break the myth of us lowly humans being the ONLY intelligent life forms in the vastness of the universe.

When it comes to the topic at hand, being close-minded is the last thing any of us should be.

edit - And yes, I contributed a lot of bandwidth in support of the SETI Project.

So did I

 

[nOOky]

An interesting take on all of this, is that deeply religious military people, don't want us to know about the devil.
It would be unbelievably arrogant to not think that billions of planets with billions of years of evolution would not have created multiple intelligent species throughout the universe.

Even worse would be if we are indeed the only ones, and look at what we do with our chance. We're basically still just primitive beings, seeking out monetary or physical gratification because we know individually our time is limited.

And there is a great chance that we are it.

 

[WelshBloke]

Of course it seems ridiculous. But, to paraphrase Fermi, then where are they?

Our footprint in space and time is tiny and space is huge and has been there for a long time. Even if life is fairly common the odds on it being about at the same time as us and in an area that we can see and it being of a technological level that we can detect all at the same time is pretty small.

 

[Pens1566]

So did I

My PS3 was always on and running the plugin ...

Having said that, Fermi Paradox seems appropriate.

 

[Vic]

I actually have one of these. Very comfy, fits well.

It's Never Aliens Tee | Space Time

• 100% ring-spun cotton• Pre-shrunk

www.pbsspacetime.com

 

[Indus]

Is it okay to have a dose of reality with conspiracy theories???

The US is what 6% of the world's landmass and 3% of the population.

How come UFO's don't show up in 94% of the world or reveal themselves to 97% of the population?

Why is it UFO's only like to poke their presence at Americans?

 

[UNCjigga]

There’s something I found oddly unsettling about the prospect of a technologically advanced alien spacecraft landing on Earth, AND less intelligent government agencies successfully hiding its existence from the rest of us, with no one talking. I’m especially dubious when someone contends that this has happened multiple times, with numerous craft, over a period of several decades. Like—the existence of these UAPs and successful coverups should be mutually exclusive, otherwise one of them isn’t real.

 

[Racan]

And how did they come by "Quite a Number” of Spacecraft in Custody?

How did these aliens manage to cross the vast distances of interstellar space only to crash-land on Earth?

 

[Paratus]

It’s never aliens. And if it is then the evidence has to be overwhelming. Grainy camera footage doesn’t cut it.

The first real evidence of extraterrestrial life will either come from probes in our solar system finding single cell or simple multicellular life on Mars or an ice ball moon like Europa and it’ll be related to life on Earth since bits of Earth have blasted all over the solar system from asteroid impacts.

OR

James Webb or its successor will find an extrasolar planet with an atmosphere similar to ours.

 

[fskimospy]

It’s never aliens. And if it is then the evidence has to be overwhelming. Grainy camera footage doesn’t cut it.

The first real evidence of extraterrestrial life will either come from probes in our solar system finding single cell or simple multicellular life on Mars or an ice ball moon like Europa and it’ll be related to life on Earth since bits of Earth have blasted all over the solar system from asteroid impacts.

OR

James Webb or its successor will find an extrasolar planet with an atmosphere similar to ours.

I did find it interesting that alien visits seem to have declined dramatically right about the time when most people got a relatively high quality camera they could take everywhere with them.

 

[Pens1566]

I did find it interesting that alien visits seem to have declined dramatically right about the time when most people got a relatively high quality camera they could take everywhere with them.

And bigfoot. And ghots. And Nessie.

 

[Indus]

And bigfoot. And ghots. And Nessie.

Actually have a better chance of explaining sasquatch, ghosts than aliens.

 

[Muse]

Am reading Carl Sagan's The Demon Haunted World, in which he tackles all manner of pseudo-science, superstition, etc. I'm in the "Aliens" chapter right now. Suffice to say, Sagan was quite the scientist and his approach is to be properly skeptical of all this unsubstantiated rigmarole. Really good read, but I'm finding some portions a lot more interesting than others. I've never paid much attention to a lot of stuff that he debunks because I have known all along that it's poppycock. Last chapter was man in the moon, man on mars stuff. I was eh.

 

[fskimospy]

Actually have a better chance of explaining sasquatch, ghosts than aliens.

Yeah although there’s no evidence for it existing Bigfoot as an idea isn’t totally insane.

I find no plausible set of circumstances where a technologically advanced alien species routinely visits earth, this is known to the government, and nothing has gotten out and no quality evidence ever caught by anyone else. Governments aren’t that competent. Also you know if it had been true Trump would have tweeted it out five minutes after he found out.

 

[woolfe9998]

I can't see a plausible explanation for how any alien species even arrives here. Unfortunately we live in a universe where your top end speed is just under the speed of light so good luck with that. Also, if any advanced species exists anywhere in our galaxy, we would have picked up their radio waves by now. I'm with Fermi's Paradox on this one - intelligent life in the universe is likely quite scarce.