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Stg-Flame

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Sounds genius. This has never been done before in turn based games?
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm, but there have been quite a few turn-based games that added QTEs for added effects. Super Mario RPG and Final Fantasy 8 just off the top of my head featured perfect timed additional button presses for extra effect/damage and the whole battle concept behind Legend of Dragoon was QTEs.
 
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I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm
I didn't know honestly because the concept of turn based gameplay seems like a turn off to me due to the lack of interactivity and not being able to do much to affect the outcome. But it's all in my head. Have never really played any turn based game.
 
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MoragaBlue

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I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm, but there have been quite a few turn-based games that added QTEs for added effects. Super Mario RPG and Final Fantasy 8 just off the top of my head featured perfect timed additional button presses for extra effect/damage and the whole battle concept behind Legend of Dragoon was QTEs.

I had no idea either! I had thought turn based games were out of fashion, a remnant from the BG2 days several decades ago.

Good to see the genre is alive and well, since I did enjoy turn based games quite a bit, albeit 20+ years ago.
 

mikeymikec

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XCom Chimera Squad

I'm a huge XCOM fan and from what I read about Chimera Squad, it just seemed like a weird 'not really XCOM' thing. It also reminded me of what I think XCOM2 calls 'arcade mode': a separate internal game that works on completely different mechanics to the main game, almost like a 'quick battle' option but weirdly specific and it departs from the main storyline in incompatible ways which annoys me. Maybe its weirdly linear nature is part of the problem.

XCOM2 / XCOM2 WOTC is definitely a worthy addition to the set, I think I've clocked something like 897 hours on it (Steam shows both as a single game all-in-one), IMO play XCOM2 without WOTC then play it with WOTC, and then you probably won't go back to the vanilla version. I wonder if they thought that XCOM2WOTC would be stuffing too much into one game. If I get a hankering for XCOM, then XCOM2WOTC is the somewhat more likely version of the game I'll play (over XCOM2012 EU / EW, or UFO: Enemy Unknown through OpenXCOM and switching off enemy psionics), but I do still play the older games from time to time.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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I'm a huge XCOM fan and from what I read about Chimera Squad, it just seemed like a weird 'not really XCOM' thing. It also reminded me of what I think XCOM2 calls 'arcade mode': a separate internal game that works on completely different mechanics to the main game, almost like a 'quick battle' option but weirdly specific and it departs from the main storyline in incompatible ways which annoys me. Maybe its weirdly linear nature is part of the problem.

- I'm having a great time with the game.

It's like a snackable version of XCOM and is absolutely a spin-off with its own mechanics vs the mainline games of the series.

Base building is gone, characters are pre-set personalities with unique individual upgrade trees (unlike the class trees in the main game), no character deaths (If characters bleed out during a mission you simply have to restart no hobbling forward with half your squad wiped), missions are entirely contained battle encounters with either 1/2/3 rooms per encounter with no moving forward until the objectives in the current room have been achieved, rather than pod initiative the game has an individual character initiative structure.

The meta game revolves around managing city anarchy levels, the economy involves intel for overarching perks, elerium for research. and credits to purchase supplies.

Its very very easy to drop in, play a few missions for 30 minutes, then drop out. Frankly I'm loving the gameplay, but I completely understand how someone who wanted XCOM 3 would be deeply disappointed but its not a numbered entry into the series so not sure what people were thinking...

The game's biggest failing IMO is despite having a great premise (a police squad that has humans and the remnants of the advent races having to make peace working together to police an experimental human/advent city) the game's plot and characters don't really do anything with it. The characters are all Gen Alpha type rounded edges foam padded super considerate mushpiles despite half the squad having tried to actively genocide the otherhalf during the events of XCOM 2 (yeah yeah mind control), and the story is a pretty ho-hum "forces working against unity of the species" boilerplate.

Also, getting railroaded into completing one investigation at a time unnecessarily limits enemy variety over the course of the game.

XCOM2 / XCOM2 WOTC is definitely a worthy addition to the set, I think I've clocked something like 897 hours on it (Steam shows both as a single game all-in-one), IMO play XCOM2 without WOTC then play it with WOTC, and then you probably won't go back to the vanilla version. I wonder if they thought that XCOM2WOTC would be stuffing too much into one game. If I get a hankering for XCOM, then XCOM2WOTC is the somewhat more likely version of the game I'll play (over XCOM2012 EU / EW, or UFO: Enemy Unknown through OpenXCOM and switching off enemy psionics), but I do still play the older games from time to time.

- Still haven't played XCOM 2 because the idea of using my limited gaming time to get deeply invested into potential failed/zombie runs etc doesn't seem appealing to me right now, but I have the complete edition of XCOM2 (including WOTC) and I still haven't played through XCOM with EW activated, so plenty of Xcom left for me to discover.
 
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mikeymikec

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@GodisanAtheist

XCOM2WOTC certainly has some time-consuming missions (especially if you enable the long play options in second wave settings), but you can save whenever.

XCOM 2012 EW is pretty good. The base defence mission is pretty chaotic! It looks like I haven't played XCOM2012EU (vanilla) for some time, so I probably prefer to play EW instead.

There's another expansion for XCOM2012 called 'Slingshot' IIRC, it's worth paying a pittance for at most IMO, they've done so little with it.
 

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It's weird that the games I am currently playing were movies from my yoot. I have not finished either yet.

I am enjoying Indy Jones. Baker's impression is damned good.

Robocop continues to make me laugh. I keep having to do the most mundane tasks. A day in the life of Robocop. It ain't all epic combat and super serial stakes. Had they spent the money on MOCAP it would have taken this game from good to great. I think Half Life 2 has as good or better facial animations.

I was getting a bit bent about low level thugs hurting me with small arms fire at first. I'm like "Robocop tanked that 💩 in the move!" But as I get the points to buy the upgrades, it's getting there now. Cool mechanic of using circuit boards to upgrade the sidearm. I have extra gore and full auto among other upgrades.
 
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JujuFish

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I played Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 up through the first boss yesterday. I quite enjoyed the addition of a parry mechanic to a turn based game. The story is an interesting set up and it's a good looking game to boot.
 
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