The 2004 Lemon List

[UNCjigga]

I bet half of the TL complaints are idiots trying to get a non-bluetooth phone working with the bluetooth handsfree. I went to take my dad's MDX in for service and there was a woman there very angry with one of the service techs. She brought in her brand-new TL and DEMANDED that they make it work with her phone!! They tried to explain to her that she needs to buy a new phone and that it isn't a universal handsfree kit but she just didn't get it.

I asked my service tech and he says he gets complaints about the handsfree with nearly every TL he sells...people don't understand what it needs to work.

 

[PanzerIV]

I was surprised to see Land Rover on the list.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: jntdesign
is there an archive somewhere of the last couple years' lemon lists?

Yeah, that would be nice for buying used.

 

[Slikkster]

This is another case of sheer numbers of complaints not telling a complete picture.
For example, and this is only an example, if a certain brand of auto came without
some decorative doo dad and lots of people complained, it would move this model to the
top of the list.

I want to know the severity of the problems/complaints, vs. just the numbers.

 

[Vic]

http://www.nhtsa.gov/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/defectsearch.cfm

 

[SWScorch]

mwahaha, no Saturns on the list

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
I was surprised to see Land Rover on the list.

HUH? Land Rovers are sh!t

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: fyleow

Originally posted by: NFS4
Where's Toyota? Nowhere to be found

Where's Kia or Hyundai? Nowhere!

Time to buy a new Kia or Hyundai. Better reliability than Honda and Acura. w00t

:thumbsup:

No Chryslers either, I guess that means they're leagues above Dodge, which has two vehicles on there too

 

[MrScott81]

Originally posted by: Slikkster
This is another case of sheer numbers of complaints not telling a complete picture.
For example, and this is only an example, if a certain brand of auto came without
some decorative doo dad and lots of people complained, it would move this model to the
top of the list.

I want to know the severity of the problems/complaints, vs. just the numbers.

that is true, numbers don't mean anything....especially if they're all complaining about a cupholder

but the fact that no Hyundai, especially not the Tiburon, is not on that list makes me happy

 

[ndee]

I think you really can't make a list like that. A Sports car(Impreza) is in average driven a lot harder than a Suzuki Vitara or a Dodge Caravan, same goes for a Corvette, etc.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CPA
Makes me feel good that I bought a Mazda. None on the list.

:beer:


Fewer Chryslers on there...the standard Dodge Caravan/Jeep Grand Cherokee/Dodge Neon

 

[Bassyhead]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: deftron
I wonder if the Aztec is one there because people
called up to complain that it's butt ugly.

LMAO!

lol

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
I was surprised to see Land Rover on the list.

HUH? Land Rovers are sh!t

I wasn't aware they were crappy but I was actually thinking Range Rover. That was what threw me for a loop. I thought of all the times I've seen footage of Rovers chugging through some jungle or desert somewhere...lol. A simple mix up of vehicles.

 

[GasX]

based on the methodolgy used, all this proves is that Subarau owners are a bunch of whiny bitches...

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Where's Toyota? Nowhere to be found

No Hyundai either.

I'd like to compare this list with #'s sold.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CombatChuk
It's nice to know that my people have more problems with their Acura RSXs, and TLs, Audi A4. Than my Neon (Which is a 2003 and has been problem free for 31K miles)

I wouldn't count on that lasting too much longer. Has the paint started to fly off your Neon yet?

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: CombatChuk
It's nice to know that my people have more problems with their Acura RSXs, and TLs, Audi A4. Than my Neon (Which is a 2003 and has been problem free for 31K miles)

I wouldn't count on that lasting too much longer. Has the paint started to fly off your Neon yet?

No, because he can't get it to go fast enough for the wind to blow it off...

 

[Platypus]

Is that list current? I didn't know Infinity still produced the I35?

 

[Mermaidman]

Most of the complaints were legitimate. Some are really stupid. For example:

"WHEN THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS PRESSED SLIGHTLY THE VEHICLE SURGED FORWARD FROM 0-10 MPH." (OMG 10 MPH!!!!111)

"THE BRAKE AND ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DESIGNED TO CLOSE TOGETHER, WHICH CAUSED CONSUMER TO PRESS THE ACCELERATOR WHEN THE BRAKE WAS BEING APPLIED."

Search for specific vehicle's complaints

 

[Nitemare]

LOL, no Hyundai or Kia

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
based on the methodolgy used, all this proves is that Subarau owners are a bunch of whiny bitches...

You have no idea. I hang out over on Nasioc and I-club. If I had known, I might never have bought one.

My favorites are on Nasioc's warranty board. Amazing stuff. Things like, "My 300whp stage 4 WRX has only light mods and I never abuse it. While street-racing stoplight-to-stoplight runs against a Mustang and doing high-rpm clutch-dump AWD launches, my tranny suddenly blew up. My prick dealer refused to cover it under warranty. Subaru sucks!" :roll:

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Maybe the Corvette buyers are calling to complain about getting smoked by pocket rockets like the WRx STi or Evo

MAYBE off the line because of the AWD, but z06 'vette > * (well, except for Ligenfelter vette )

 

[scauffiel]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Acanthus
That list is nowhere near accurate... some of those cars (the Acura TL and RSX) are award-winning.

What does winning awards have to do with having problems with the vehicles? A car can drive nicely and perform admirably but have niggling issues.

I'm not sure the word 'niggling' is allowed in public discourse anymore.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
I was surprised to see Land Rover on the list.

HUH? Land Rovers are sh!t

Really? I had a friend who bought a new 1997 Discovery that ran without any problem whatsoever until last year, when he ran over a Saturn. It messed up the front end of his Land Rover, but let me tell you, that Saturn needs rape resistant panels.

 

[Cooljt1]

that list means absolutely crap.