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The $20,154 Computer

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StuckMojo

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this is kindof stupid. probably 70% of the cost is for those displays. they're like 3K a piece if i remember right.
 

aidan

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im, surprised only rc5 picked up on the fact this $20k dream machine had a 56k modem...... not really much to dream about there !! ;)
 

dowxp

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<< that mac system sucks, check out my system:

Asus P4T i850 Motherboard
P4-1.7GHz 256k cache
2048MB of PC800 Samsung RDRAM (4x 512MB Rimm Modules)
3Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC w/3XP Processor
Elan Vital s-50 aegis server case with (11) 5.25&quot; drive bays
Leadtek Winfast GeForce3 64MB
Sony Multiscan GDM-FW900 24&quot; CRT
Turtle Beach Santra Cruz PCI soundcard
Klipsch Promedia 4.1 speakers
Mylex ExtremeRaid 2000 2 Channel SCSI Raid card 64MB Cache
Pioneer DVR-A03 DVD-R 2X recorder ATAPI
Teac 1.44MB 3.5&quot; FDD
(10) Seagate Cheetah X15 18.4GB Ultra160 SCSI in Raid 5 mode (161.6GB total HDD space)

Edit: Also forgot to mention that my Pioneer DVD-r recorder can also write CD-r and CD-RW only cost me $600, haha
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i seriously doubt you have 10 x15's in raid 5. unless you run a webserver like anandtech, i have no idea why you would spend so much for home and gaming use. your ranting:

&quot;and then use a digital spliter to split your output to 7 different panels, think about it, do you have 7 EYEBALLS to look at each one?[ what are you some mutated mac monkey with 7 eyeballs and throws poo around at other people when you realize you got a sucky system and paid 20k for it? Read it and weep loser, haha&quot;

doesnt convice me you are at all an experienced computer user nor very.. mature. also, its hard to believe anyone would spend 13k on a computer assuming that you have a job to support that mister. haha, dual monitors would be nice on my twin view..
 

TonyB

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really? MAC's can multitask as good as P4's, as long as they have the RAM! Get your facts straight buddy, OSX is not your typical MAC platform (though it has bugs, ala Windows 95)

Okay now you are assuming I use windows 95 and you are also trying to compare OS-X to Win95. Why dont YOU get your facts straight and realize that im using Windows 2000. Dont even try to compare those 2 OS's because we all know that OSX is buggy as hell compared to w2k. Dont forget I also have 2048 MB of PC800 RDRAM compared to the inferior 1500MB of SDRAM. The funny thing is you dont even need that much ram to run windows 2k, I know people who can run win2k with only 128MB of ram, lets see OS-X run with that much. nope i dont think it can, haha. I guess for OS-X to run, you need 1.5GB of ram, haha what a POS OS.

Who said anything about using it ONLY for gaming? and BTW, have you SEEN these new LCD displays? the good ones are pretty good for Gaming, and Movies!

Lets see, ghosting, static refresh rates, try to change resolutions when playing a game when using an LCD and then tell me what happens. Bet you dont even know so dont tell me that the gay mac LCD can be better than my cheaper yet far superior Sony 24&quot; CRT. Better yet, try PLAYING a game on a 16:9 ratio LCD and watch it either stretch into a weird rectangle or only use up 75% of the screen with 2 black bars on both sides.

ok, first please don't distort the English language, people won't understand you, and begin to ridicule you (lol, Hardware is the perfect example for that).

There is nothing to distort. What you should do is stop distorting everyone in believing that a MAC is better than a PC, which is not. People will not only think you're crazy, they'll ridicule you plus say you got suckered and jipped.

oh, and BTW, did you notice how much space that 24&quot; monster takes up? or how heavy it is? better make sure your desk is built really well if you're going to fit 4 of those on it.

First of all, I wouldnt want 4 LCD monitors and second I could care less how much space my 24&quot; CRT takes up let alone how much it weighs. Also I wouldnt want to skimp that low and get an LCD- let alone 4 -just so I can have more space.

7K MINUS what your computer is missing. lets see, 3 other monitors (I don't know what type). if these 3 monitors are LCD displays as well (say 15&quot;) that would be at LEAST $600 each. reduce that down to $5200. perhaps you need to learn to add?

You know the funny thing is my computer is $7000 cheaper than that crummy MAC system, YET it is also superior in every way shape or form. And dont even bring up the LCD display issue because its already settled that having more than 1 view screen is a waste of money. Hell i'll go buy 50,000 LCD monitors and claim that I have the best system in the world, what kind of logic is that? Perhaps I need to learn to add? what kind of kindergarden math are you trying to pull and where the hell did you get the $600 price figures? Let me clarify the math for you since you obviously never learned how to count. The $7,000 that I got from buying my system instead of that crummy MAC tincan translates into 7 Samsung 18&quot; LCD displays for $1000 each which id rather not get because its a *WASTE OF MONEY*. Get your facts straight buddy before you reply because it only makes you look stupid.

who said only one person would be watching the monitors?

Who else would be watching the monitors? if you wanted people to watch your monitor then they'll be looking over your shoulder, so what, you are trying to say that you spending thousands of dollars so that other people can have the luxury to look at what you're doing? What the hell you trying to prove? you might as well get a Big Screen projection system for a LOT LESS money and achieve a better result.
 

TonyB

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<< i seriously doubt you have 10 x15's in raid 5. unless you run a webserver like anandtech, i have no idea why you would spend so much for home and gaming use. >>



You can doubt all you want, just recognize that the price that ANYONE pays for a system like mines can outperform that MAC tincan piece of shiet anyday. Maybe you should be directing your comments to the sucker that spent $20,000 on that mac system and ask him why anandtech doesnt run their servers off that MAC. Hell if I was anandtech i'd run the webservers off my system instead of that MAC. You have no idea why I would spend so much money on home and gaming use? are you stupid? I guess im stupid too because I dont know why the hell anyone would spend $20,000 for that MAC shiet when my $13,000 system can do it better for less.



<< doesnt convice me you are at all an experienced computer user nor very.. mature. also, its hard to believe anyone would spend 13k on a computer assuming that you have a job to support that mister. haha, dual monitors would be nice on my twin view.. >>



I have over 20 years of computer experience; been working with them back in the days of MFM controller cards and ID/IO boards, probably before your time as well. So instead of making accusations about someone you know nothing about, you should really look and ask yourself, &quot;am i feeling stupid?&quot; because you are. As for my financial status, I am a multimillionare and I can spend as much money as I want into a computer system, you're probably wondering why I dont just buy a supercomputer. Common sense should be drifting into your mind right about. Oh yeah, and about the dual monitors, are you kidding me? So what now if someone has more than 1 monitor then that guy is cool? damn, i might as well go buy 50,000 LCD monitors so I can be cool like you.
 

TonyB

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<< You have no idea how useful multiple monitors are. >>



Why dont you enlighten me. You cant? aww too bad.
 

Soccerman

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sigh..

Okay now you are assuming I use windows 95 and you are also trying to compare OS-X to Win95.

no, I'm saying that it isn't perfect, just like windows 95 wasn't perfect.

Lets see, ghosting, static refresh rates, try to change resolutions when playing a game when using an LCD and then tell me what happens. Bet you dont even know so dont tell me that the gay mac LCD can be better than my cheaper yet far superior Sony 24&quot; CRT. Better yet, try PLAYING a game on a 16:9 ratio LCD and watch it either stretch into a weird rectangle or only use up 75% of the screen with 2 black bars on both sides.

I don't know about you, but I know a few people on AT forums don't have problems with LCDs.. they sure like them more then CRTs.

ok, so a 16:9 isn't so great with most of todays games. some could still take advantage of it (flight simulators come to mind).

how about this.. try watching a 16:9 DVD on your 4:3 monitor?

There is nothing to distort. What you should do is stop distorting everyone in believing that a MAC is better than a PC, which is not. People will not only think you're crazy, they'll ridicule you plus say you got suckered and jipped.

where did I ever say that a MAC was better then a PC in this thread?

btw, you can't simply make such blanket statements such as that. there are simply too many things to consider, which also means that in some cases a MAC IS better.

You know the funny thing is my computer is $7000 cheaper than that crummy MAC system, YET it is also superior in every way shape or form. And dont even bring up the LCD display issue because its already settled that having more than 1 view screen is a waste of money.

when was this settled?

btw, normally, when doing any sort of comparison, you try to have as much on each computer as possible being the same.

you can't simply say that one is better then the other.. that's like going out and buying an e-machine, and then making your own dream machine and comparing the two price wise, when they have next to nothing in common. you could draw the conclusion that the E-Machine is better, becuase it's cheaper.

if you're simply trying to prove that one is faster then the other, becuase it has superior hardware, then that could be considered a good comparison.

if however you're trying to figure out what you can buy with the same amount of money (20 grand), then you have to spend 20 grand on each computer, trying the best of your ability to get the best computer.

what kind of kindergarden math are you trying to pull and where the hell did you get the $600 price figures?

well I've seen cheap 15&quot; LCD displays at about that price. I guess I was being too fair, lets just say that the other 3 monitors were 22&quot; 16:9's..

oop, how expensive is one of those? oh I dunno, 2K at least? well, multiply that by 3, and you get 6 grand. now buy 3 of those for your PC, and you get.. AMAZING. a difference of $1000 for similar configurations..

OR, the other way, take away those 3 monitors (again assuming they're 22&quot; LCD's), and you get a price of.. wow, 'only' 14 grand. a mere $1000 above your computer price currently..

notice a trend? you are supposed to try to compare with at least SOMETHING BEING EQUAL.

Who else would be watching the monitors?

I don't know, I'm trying to give you ideas. for crying out loud..

btw, Dual monitors ARE useful. I had 2 going at once a while ago, but had to split them up to get 2 computers running. I love the ability to have 2 windows maximized at once. it's very convenient.

Maybe you should be directing your comments to the sucker that spent $20,000 on that mac system

do you actually think he bought that?

btw, what do you use that computer for?

can I have it? :)