The #1 North Korea 2013 tension thread [with rolling updates!]

[Sulaco]

Did you ever just consider what I said might carry a bit of truth?

What you said doesn't apply and/or doesn't make sense. I assume English is not your native language, so I didn't want to push it and be impolite, but most of what you posted over the last several posts is hard to decipher gibberish, to say the least.

"The Emperor has no clothes" analogy, for instance, doesn't fit in this discussion at all. Are you even familiar with the story? You're not making sense.

If you're trying to excuse NK's provocations and actions (as I suspect you are), you DO realize that the US/Korea have been allies for decades and carried out wargames for many years, NK has repeatedly threatened SK, Japan, and the US with destruction and war, has attacked and killed dozens of SK citizens and soldiers in the last 3 years in what very likely could have led to open war (look up sinking of the Cheonan and Yeonpyong shelling) has been roundly condemned by the UN and other international organizations for failing to honor treaties and agreements, and has even worn on the last nerve of their closest and ONLY ally, China.

In other words, in this particular situation, everyone with a modicum of sense, around the world, can and has seen that NK is clearly the aggressor and threat to peace here. Arguing otherwise just reeks of personal bias and ignorance.

 

[nightspydk]

Oh yes realise that very much and again you are treat to my security since your are doing verythin you can to provoke a war with a soveregn state. I pardon my english and you are completely right it is not my mother language and maybe I would learn it better if I felt more of a kindship, but to me it seems your nation can only thrive on war and I treasure peace, so forgive me for not beeing one of yours but rather an insurgent that could be picked up anytime by your secret service.

The despise is not really there you are just forcing it.

 

[Sulaco]

Oh yes realise that very much and again you are treat to my security since your are doing verythin you can to provoke a war with a soveregn state. I pardon my english and you are completely right it is not my mother language and maybe I would learn it better if I felt more of a kindship, but to me it seems your nation can only thrive on war and I treasure peace, so forgive me for not beeing one of yours but rather an insurgent that could be picked up anytime by your secret service.

The despise is not really there you are just forcing it.

Again, most of that is ranting nonsense, and I have no care to discuss it in a NK thread.

The facts on the NK issue you can't (and I notice, didn't) refute: The entire world, from the UN, to European powers, to regional neighbors, to NK's only ally, China, have condemned their rhetoric, and recognize the danger they pose.

Only fools with an ax to grind, with preformed biases, like yourself, see this the other way.

 

[nightspydk]

So what stopping you then. When is the war. Well you are not going to suffer real casualties there either.

This is one for you. Sprechen sie deutch. Glaub ich nicht.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k

 

[Sulaco]

So what stopping you then. When is the war. Well you are not going to suffer real casualties there either.

This is one for you. Sprechen sie deutch. Glaub ich nicht.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k

Yeah, link to a Youtube Rammstein video. That's the way to prove your point.

You're a fool. Your argument lacks any factual base, and boils down to "I don't like America WAAAAH...here's a pop culture reference with which I can channel my angst."

You're making a fool of yourself at this point. Just stop.

 

[RampantAndroid]

So what stopping you then. When is the war. Well you are not going to suffer real casualties there either.

This is one for you. Sprechen sie deutch. Glaub ich nicht.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAM3rIBG5k

What does that music video have to do with this?

 

[Sulaco]

What does that music video have to do with this?

America is EVIL!! Don't you get it!?? Everything the US does is EEEVIL...poor, poor North Korea just wants to breed unicorns and plant rainbow trees.

 

[nightspydk]

Well good people you tell me my english is lacking, so I just try to show the world is a tiny bit more complicated. In my country we speak danish do you know how? No obviously you do not. You expect me to be fluent in your tounge, but do you at least know german. No how about french?. So fact of the matter is I have done way much to meet you halfway, but you have done nothing.

So go make your war but I'm not a fan and maybe a lot of people you do not know the custom of are not. I'm not gonna fight it, so do it yourself.

Why don't we then call it as it is.

...your war..

 

[Sulaco]

Well good people you tell me my english is lacking, so I just try to show the world is a tiny bit more complicated. In my country we speak danish do you know how? No obviously you do not. You expect me to be fluent in your tounge, but do you at least know german. No how about french?. So fact of the matter is I have done way much to meet you halfway, but you have done nothing.

So go make your war but I'm not a fan and maybe a lot of people you do not know the custom of are not. I'm not gonna fight it, so do it yourself.

Why don't we then call it as it is.

...your war..

Again, none of that has anything to do with the Korea situation. And you're making an ass of yourself with your assumptions; you don't know the first thing about me, how on earth would you know what languages I do or do not speak? I studied German throughout undergrad, and traveled to München for a 3 week stay.
But again, that has nothing to do with what is being discussed, and is being used by you as a transparent platform for ranting about America.
Either do the research and be somewhat knowledgeable of the topic at hand, or start your own thread. But either way, you just look like a frustrated fool.

 

[nightspydk]

So tell me plainly what do you want from me?

 

[Zeze]

April 9, 2013

NK notifies Foreign Embassies of intent to launch missiles over Japan on Wednesday This is actually quite very likely. Wednesday in NK/Japan starts in about 6 hours~ from this update.

NK says foreigners should evacuate South Korea.

South Koreans living along DMZ given emergency instruction manuals.

Some pics of the manual:

More found here.

 

[Quantos]

Uh. That's quite specific. I wonder if they will actually try anything on Wednesday. The failure to do so would undermine their rhetoric at this point.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Well, since they notified us of the launch, we probably won't try to shoot it down unless it is endangering someone.

LOL at their continued threats. What a joke.

EDIT: Just read the article and Japan says they're going to shoot it down. Interesting.

 

[Agent11]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162...y-on-edge-about-north-korea-nuclear-missiles/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/08/world/japan-north-korea/index.html

I'm pretty sure Japan will shoot it down if we do not.

 

[(sic)Klown12]

EDIT: Just read the article and Japan says they're going to shoot it down. Interesting.

Will be nice to see Aegis BMD in action. Has it even been used in anything other than controlled test yet?

 

[RampantAndroid]

Well good people you tell me my english is lacking, so I just try to show the world is a tiny bit more complicated. In my country we speak danish do you know how? No obviously you do not. You expect me to be fluent in your tounge, but do you at least know german. No how about french?. So fact of the matter is I have done way much to meet you halfway, but you have done nothing.

Welcome to a forum that is an ENGLISH speaking forum...

Don't come here and expect people to start speaking a different language. All you've done is post nonsense. I see people use google translate on these forums sometimes, and what comes out is grammatically the WORST English I have seen in a long time, but it conveys their message relatively well. I have seen no real message from you other than "capitalists suck!" or something like that. The US isn't alone in this. China is as scared as NK right now as everyone else. Well, maybe not as scared as SK is.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Will be nice to see Aegis BMD in action. Has it even been used in anything other than controlled test yet?

Not sure, but I'm confident it will work and I can't wait to see NK's reaction.

 

[Ventanni]

Welcome to a forum that is an ENGLISH speaking forum...

Don't come here and expect people to start speaking a different language. All you've done is post nonsense. I see people use google translate on these forums sometimes, and what comes out is grammatically the WORST English I have seen in a long time, but it conveys their message relatively well. I have seen no real message from you other than "capitalists suck!" or something like that. The US isn't alone in this. China is as scared as NK right now as everyone else. Well, maybe not as scared as SK is.

I'm quoting this because I completely agree with it. Coming in here and spewing nonsense is neither a way to convey your point across, nor is it a way to get those to agree with you. I can respect the world's opinion on us Americans for having a military,political, and economic influence on every part of the globe whether it be good or bad, but I get a little defensive when we're portrayed as the all-conquering, warmongering type.

You can rest assure that the US does not want war with North Korea. Such a war would be greatly destabilizing to the region, as the 3 of the 4 major powers in the area command significant economies (South Korea, China, and Japan). Being that the US economy is also closely tied with these three nations, such a war would also greatly impact the economy of the Untied States as well.

I want my Samsung Galaxy S4, man! Not war with NK...

 

[Zeze]

If they are testing a missile, why are they telling people to evacuate?

Look at the older news of OP. What happened to 'awaiting final order for attack' given almost 3 weeks ago?

 

[EagleKeeper]

If they are testing a missile, why are they telling people to evacuate?

Look at the older news of OP. What happened to 'awaiting final order for attack' given almost 3 weeks ago?

The world called their bluff.

The only way to save face and not get slapped around is to do something that is provocative but not enough to get into trouble.

Launching of missiles over Japan qualifies.
By announcing such, no ratcheting of tensions or misunderstandings.

NK demonstrates it's superiority and the leadership declares victory over the imperialists.

Then they go back to plotting a new line of extortion.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well good people you tell me my english is lacking, so I just try to show the world is a tiny bit more complicated. In my country we speak danish do you know how? No obviously you do not. You expect me to be fluent in your tounge, but do you at least know german. No how about french?. So fact of the matter is I have done way much to meet you halfway, but you have done nothing.

So go make your war but I'm not a fan and maybe a lot of people you do not know the custom of are not. I'm not gonna fight it, so do it yourself.

Why don't we then call it as it is.

...your war..

My German sucks so I'm not going to critique your English as I'm more interested in thoughts anyway. You are right to point out that the world is more complex than many understand. On the other hand you seem to believe that we in the US are have no diversity of thought or opinion. Considering the disparate views expressed in these forums on many subjects on what do you draw your conclusion if I am interpreting your remarks correctly.

 

[Zeze]

The world called their bluff.

The only way to save face and not get slapped around is to do something that is provocative but not enough to get into trouble.

Launching of missiles over Japan qualifies.
By announcing such, no ratcheting of tensions or misunderstandings.

NK demonstrates it's superiority and the leadership declares victory over the imperialists.

Then they go back to plotting a new line of extortion.

Yes. But they still go home with zero aid and same sanctions.

 

[Oyeve]

So is it wednesday crazy korean time or US EST?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The world called their bluff.

The only way to save face and not get slapped around is to do something that is provocative but not enough to get into trouble.

Launching of missiles over Japan qualifies.
By announcing such, no ratcheting of tensions or misunderstandings.

NK demonstrates it's superiority and the leadership declares victory over the imperialists.

Then they go back to plotting a new line of extortion.

The only caveat is the tension between Japan and China escalating. No need to explain this to you, but saving face in oriental cultures is of great import. China support of NK combined with Japan taking down NKs missiles will be embarrassing but I can't say I'm broken up about that.

 

[Doppel]

I doubt NK goes through with threat to shoot over Japan but I hope I am wrong only because the Aegis system has never been tried for real and I expect that Japan will not allow another missile over its territory. I wanna see if the damn thing works.