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Eli

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Pretty awesome eh?

I've often wondered how they machine parts so large? Are there warehouse sized lathes and mills or something? :Q
 

randay

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Originally posted by: Eli
Pretty awesome eh?

I've often wondered how they machine parts so large? Are there warehouse sized lathes and mills or something? :Q

die-cast.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
:laugh: at some of the replies here!

These engines are prime movers for ships. Modern ships use as many as six to generate electrical power. This power is used for everything onboard including propulsion and steering via bow tunnel thrusters and azipod propulsion systems. Large azipods can be over 30MW EACH.

Nuclear power requires a crew of nuclear certified engineers as well as a staggering budget secured by taxpayer funding. The obvious advantage is no bunkering (re-fueling) required for as long as TWO YEARS.

6 of these engines... holy hell?
what is this an aircraft carrier?
 

arcenite

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Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.

Well at least now we know where all the oil is going...
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: Riverhound777
I wonder how that would compare to a Nuclear powered ship.

Reactors on nuclear subs are around 50K hp, IIRC, a little under 10X one of these.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: arcenite
Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.

Well at least now we know where all the oil is going...

The key thing is that some of those ships can haul 15,000 containers. Each of which will be hauled by a truck. (9000 is a common number though)
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: Rubycon
:laugh: at some of the replies here!

These engines are prime movers for ships. Modern ships use as many as six to generate electrical power. This power is used for everything onboard including propulsion and steering via bow tunnel thrusters and azipod propulsion systems. Large azipods can be over 30MW EACH.

Nuclear power requires a crew of nuclear certified engineers as well as a staggering budget secured by taxpayer funding. The obvious advantage is no bunkering (re-fueling) required for as long as TWO YEARS.

6 of these engines... holy hell?
what is this an aircraft carrier?

The USN's conventional power carriers are rated at a total of 280,000 shaft horsepower Text, roughly the equivalent of 40 of those. I don't think that includes the electrical power, either.

Edit: whoops, I was reading horsepower per cylinder, not for the whole engine. d'oh! So it's more like 2-4 of those, not 40. :eek:
 

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: arcenite
Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.

Well at least now we know where all the oil is going...

The key thing is that some of those ships can haul 15,000 containers. Each of which will be hauled by a truck. (9000 is a common number though)

And those containers end up delivering more shit that you don't need to your local Wal-Mart.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Eli
Pretty awesome eh?

I've often wondered how they machine parts so large? Are there warehouse sized lathes and mills or something? :Q

die-cast.

Uh, yeah. You still have to machine the parts to spec. They don't magically come out of the molds machined.
 
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Eli
Pretty awesome eh?

I've often wondered how they machine parts so large? Are there warehouse sized lathes and mills or something? :Q

die-cast.

Uh, yeah. You still have to machine the parts to spec. They don't magically come out of the molds machined.
It's highly unlikely to be die cast anyway. Building a die casting mold for something that large would be cost prohibitive. More likely it was sand cast. That crankcase was likely sand cast in sections and then bolted/welded together. I can't imagine they would be able to control tolerances, cooling, and prevent air pockets if they cast it as a monolithic piece. A bad pour and you're remelting tons of metal, not to mention the cost of a new mold.
 

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Imagine building that thing, installing it in a boat and upon initial start up you realize someone forgot to torque the bearings and it kicks a rod out the side of the block.....

:Q