That mosque being built adjacent to ground zero?

[spacejamz]

This.

Just because they can doesn't mean they should. That is what this whole thread is about.

 

[kylebisme]

While I wasn't happy about the radical religion that blew up our buildings...

At least it seems you realize that the Twin Towers didn't simply collapse due to impact damage and fires, and rather were blown up; but I'm at a loss as to how anyone could rightly assume the people who put all those explosives in the buildings had anything to do with Islam.

 

[Descartes]

I guess I'm in the minority here, because I think it's bullshit.

 

[umbrella39]

Maybe you should start your flight training lessons now?

LOL. They would have to turn in their keyboards, handbags, and panties first.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

So in your opinion, is opening this mega mosque on 09/11 near where the old WTC stood disrespectful to the United States or not?

A simple yes or no answer will suffice.

Opinion is irrelevant. The only question is, "is it legal?".

If so, this is a free country, so it can be built. What we think is irrelevant.

 

[villageidiot111]

Theres a British Restaurant/Pub less than two blocks away from the site of the Boston Massacre, how insensitive can those damn brits get!!!

 

[piasabird]

Then you can open a porno shop accross the street from the Mosque. It is not a matter of what is legal and acceptable it is what makes sense. This is where zoning comes in. The idiots on the Zoning and planning board are suppose to make decisions based on what is good for the public and the city, not their pockets. My guess is the city of new york sees and empty building or unoccupied building and on the other hand they see people with a wad of money. They care more about money than people.

A mosque or any church going next to a center for business and finance just seems like an illogical choice. It is probably hard to find a large enough of a property to put a mosque on. However, it might be possible to negotiate a way to find a spot a block or two from the site they want. You have to look at why they picked that spot. On the other hand, maybe they wont knock down the building again if they have a mosque next to it???

Maybe you would be better off if the Mosque was inside the Trade Center on a few floors??

 

[ShawnD1]

Oh, I dislike them killing my fellow citizens, so it's racist!

You can love thy terrorist all you like, most of us don't and are offended by rubbing our nose in the fact that they killed thousands of our people in the name of Islam.

You're talking about taking away freedom of religion from fellow American citizens because they look different from you.

 

[spacejamz]

Then you can open a porno shop accross the street from the Mosque. It is not a matter of what is legal and acceptable it is what makes sense. This is where zoning comes in. The idiots on the Zoning and planning board are suppose to make decisions based on what is good for the public and the city, not their pockets. My guess is the city of new york sees and empty building or unoccupied building and on the other hand they see people with a wad of money. They care more about money than people.

A mosque or any church going next to a center for business and finance just seems like an illogical choice. It is probably hard to find a large enough of a property to put a mosque on. However, it might be possible to negotiate a way to find a spot a block or two from the site they want. You have to look at why they picked that spot. On the other hand, maybe they wont knock down the building again if they have a mosque next to it???

Maybe you would be better off if the Mosque was inside the Trade Center on a few floors??

I wonder how the mosque, its owners and the worshipers inside would feel if they opened a few BBQ's with daily pork chop specials around it...maybe throw in a couple of breakfast specials with bacon and sausage...after all, it would be legal, right???

I wonder if they would they feel disrespected or maybe they might feel as if they were being antagonized? Well, that is exactly what they are doing to the citizens of New York and the United States...

 

[dahunan]

The sickness is

The people in here so upset cannot even see how disgustingly cruel and disrespectful they are being.. UGLY Americans syndrome

How any of these keyboard warriors can call a billion people terrorists and then still feel good enough to look in the mirror is hopefully far beyond anything their parents taught them.

truly ask yourself what it means to you to cast judgment upon others like that

 

[ShawnD1]

I wonder how the mosque, its owners and the worshipers inside would feel if they opened a few BBQ's with daily pork chop specials around it...maybe throw in a couple of breakfast specials with bacon and sausage...after all, it would be legal, right???

They deal with this every fucking day. The McDonalds breakfast sausage is pork sausage and the bacon is real bacon. Everyone knows this.

I wonder if they would they feel disrespected or maybe they might feel as if they were being antagonized? Well, that is exactly what they are doing to the citizens of New York and the United States...

I don't see Muslims or Jews protesting McDonalds breakfast, but I see Christians on this forum protesting mosques. Which group is being the bigger asshole?

 

[spacejamz]

The sickness is

The people in here so upset cannot even see how disgustingly cruel and disrespectful they are being.. UGLY Americans syndrome

How any of these keyboard warriors can call a billion people terrorists and then still feel good enough to look in the mirror is hopefully far beyond anything their parents taught them.

truly ask yourself what it means to you to cast judgment upon others like that

You just don't get it do you??? Most Americans probably feel some rage against Muslims for 9/11....That is not the issue here...

Suppose you had a loved one who got killed in a DWI accident...How you feel if someone put a bar or liquor store at that location? How would you feel if the teenage kid across the street didn't hold the door open for your grandmother? What if you were a vegatarian and your co-workers took you to an all you can eat brazilian steak house for your birthday?

This is about respect and common decency. 20 Muslim terrorists killed thousands of US citizens on 09/11. Now they want to erect a 3 story Muslim building right next to ground zero? Do the builders not really care about the emotions that still exist from that infamous day? Obviously not...

Why do they want to antagonize the citizens of this country?? Why build it there? Why open it on 09/11? If they were truly interested in trying to maintain peace, they would have built elsewhere just to avoid any controversy...Obviously, trying to keep a peaceful relationship with their neighbors doesn't seem to be one of their goals...what does that tell you?

You don't build a 3 story structure in NYC without doing some kinda of feasibility study. They know exactly what kind of reaction they are going to get when they decided to move forward with this idea.

 

[spacejamz]

They deal with this every fucking day. The McDonalds breakfast sausage is pork sausage and the bacon is real bacon. Everyone knows this.

I don't see Muslims or Jews protesting McDonalds breakfast, but I see Christians on this forum protesting mosques. Which group is being the bigger asshole?

How many new Mcdonald's have opened up right across the street from an existing mosque?

In case you haven't noticed, the only mosque that is being protested here is the one that is being planned next door to Ground Zero.

Only a total moron cannot see why this is a problem...oh wait...

 

[sandorski]

You just don't get it do you??? Most Americans probably feel some rage against Muslims for 9/11....That is not the issue here...

Suppose you had a loved one who got killed in a DWI accident...How you feel if someone put a bar or liquor store at that location? How would you feel if the teenage kid across the street didn't hold the door open for your grandmother? What if you were a vegatarian and your co-workers took you to an all you can eat brazilian steak house for your birthday?

This is about respect and common decency. 20 Muslim terrorists killed thousands of US citizens on 09/11. Now they want to erect a 3 story Muslim building right next to ground zero? Do the builders not really care about the emotions that still exist from that infamous day? Obviously not...

Why do they want to antagonize the citizens of this country?? Why build it there? Why open it on 09/11? If they were truly interested in trying to maintain peace, they would have built elsewhere just to avoid any controversy...Obviously, trying to keep a peaceful relationship with their neighbors doesn't seem to be one of their goals...what does that tell you?

You don't build a 3 story structure in NYC without doing some kinda of feasibility study. They know exactly what kind of reaction they are going to get when they decided to move forward with this idea.

Indeed it is, that's what we're trying to tell you.

 

[ShawnD1]

How many new Mcdonald's have opened up right across the street from an existing mosque?

Often the McDonalds is there first and the Muslims willingly set up shop right next to it. There is a Muslim school near my house that was built within a block of a McDonalds; the McDonalds was there at least 10 years before the Muslim school went up. They really don't care that other people are eating pork. Only the Pat Robertson types get angry over the actions of others.

Suppose you had a loved one who got killed in a DWI accident...How you feel if someone put a bar or liquor store at that location?

I don't know if you realize it, but this happens all the time. Do you honestly think every crash site involving alcohol never sees a liquor store around it for the next 10+ years??

You just don't get it do you??? Most Americans probably feel some rage against Muslims for 9/11....That is not the issue here..

As much as you'd like to think it is, this isn't 1930s Germany where people are told to hate certain groups of people. You're in the very small racist minority. Watch this ABC Primetime social experiment where they see what happens when a store owner discriminates against a woman because she is Muslim. An overwhelming majority of people were outraged and sided with the Muslim woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqbQWxHIn4U&feature=related

This is about respect and common decency. 20 Muslim terrorists killed thousands of US citizens on 09/11. Now they want to erect a 3 story Muslim building right next to ground zero? Do the builders not really care about the emotions that still exist from that infamous day?

No they don't care about your emotions, nor should they. If you hate Muslims, that's your problem, not theirs.

 

[Hacp]

You just don't get it do you??? Most Americans probably feel some rage against Muslims for 9/11....That is not the issue here...

Suppose you had a loved one who got killed in a DWI accident...How you feel if someone put a bar or liquor store at that location? How would you feel if the teenage kid across the street didn't hold the door open for your grandmother? What if you were a vegatarian and your co-workers took you to an all you can eat brazilian steak house for your birthday?

This is about respect and common decency. 20 Muslim terrorists killed thousands of US citizens on 09/11. Now they want to erect a 3 story Muslim building right next to ground zero? Do the builders not really care about the emotions that still exist from that infamous day? Obviously not...

Why do they want to antagonize the citizens of this country?? Why build it there? Why open it on 09/11? If they were truly interested in trying to maintain peace, they would have built elsewhere just to avoid any controversy...Obviously, trying to keep a peaceful relationship with their neighbors doesn't seem to be one of their goals...what does that tell you?

You don't build a 3 story structure in NYC without doing some kinda of feasibility study. They know exactly what kind of reaction they are going to get when they decided to move forward with this idea.

You know if we changed shit just so someone's feelings won't get hurt, then nothing will get done! If we cajoled to every objection someone had because they were offended, nothing will be built! You sound like one of those guys that thinks cell phones "radiation" is dangerous and anything that isn't organic is poisonous.

 

[ShawnD1]

You sound like one of those guys that thinks cell phones "radiation" is dangerous and anything that isn't organic is poisonous.

Actually most inorganic things are poisonous. The mistake hippies make is assuming that organic things are automatically not poisonous. Some of them go as far as saying natural things are not poisonous. Keep in mind that snake venom is organic and cadmium is natural.

 

[Oric]

Nice try at a "twist".......IF I'm offended at all, it's because some do see it as a "victory". Back to my original statement that Islam has done similar things in the past. May or may not be but the irony is there. If the owners of the land want to build a "memorial" on that site, why not make it non-denominational or, make it a "community center" with no religious ties whatsoever.

it is not a victory ... Therefore your claim is false. I find it offending that after this charade of "Islam is attacking us" and "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" a whole country (Iraq) was devastated and nearly one million Iraqis were dead and millions had to flee their homes. Now to commemorate this attack there will be a new monument at ground zero. How about this perspective ...

Your morals only speak of one side dude

 

[Hacp]

Actually most inorganic things are poisonous. The mistake hippies make is assuming that organic things are automatically not poisonous. Some of them go as far as saying natural things are not poisonous. Keep in mind that snake venom is organic and cadmium is natural.

Organic as in Organic food. Not organic as in carbon.

 

[William Gaatjes]

The sickness is

The people in here so upset cannot even see how disgustingly cruel and disrespectful they are being.. UGLY Americans syndrome

How any of these keyboard warriors can call a billion people terrorists and then still feel good enough to look in the mirror is hopefully far beyond anything their parents taught them.

truly ask yourself what it means to you to cast judgment upon others like that

I do not think that is the case.

Please do not turn into an islamitic defender version of IHV.

Woops, almost forgot something :

 

[boomerang]

Why open it on 09/11?

To send non-Muslims a message. Some of us get the message and some will never get it. Maybe I should say that some don't want to get it. I call it the "Holder Syndrome".

The date of the opening is the issue with me. It's not the mosque, it's not where it is. Opening it on 9/11 is akin to hitting the populace on the side of the head with an iron bar. It doesn't have to be done on that day. It's purposeful. It's important to understand the message.

You reap what you sow. Any group that wanted to go about their business without causing a fuss or treading on other's sensibilities would be respectful of that date. So, they've made their choice and it's obvious to anyone not under the influence of the "Holder Syndrome" what they're trying to accomplish. I for one, am getting it. Loud and clear.

 

[Hacp]

To send non-Muslims a message. Some of us get the message and some will never get it. Maybe I should say that some don't want to get it. I call it the "Holder Syndrome".

The date of the opening is the issue with me. It's not the mosque, it's not where it is. Opening it on 9/11 is akin to hitting the populace on the side of the head with an iron bar. It doesn't have to be done on that day. It's purposeful. It's important to understand the message.

You reap what you sow. Any group that wanted to go about their business without causing a fuss or treading on other's sensibilities would be respectful of that date. So, they've made their choice and it's obvious to anyone not under the influence of the "Holder Syndrome" what they're trying to accomplish. I for one, am getting it. Loud and clear.

You're outraged it'll open on 9/11. You have a right to your opinion.However, unless they've done something criminal, they can open whenever the hell they want.

 

[piasabird]

Maybe we should send them some choclate covered bacon?

 

[The Green Bean]

So much hatred...

 

[Kappo]

You're outraged it'll open on 9/11. You have a right to your opinion.However, unless they've done something criminal, they can open whenever the hell they want.

I'm personally not judging the legality of it. I CAN call every minority a slur every time I see one, but I don't because a) it's wrong according to my values and b) I would have to suffer non-legal consequences.

There are LOTS of things I am legally able to do, but don't because I shouldn't.