That mosque being built adjacent to ground zero?

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GarfieldtheCat

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This is a disgrace. They killed thousands of innocent people, destroyed our buidlings, and now they will build a mosque in the same area. Whoever approved this buidling permit should be fired.

Who is this "they" that you speak of? A bunch of Saudis that joined AQ are building a mosque? If not, I don't see a connection.

But hey, don't let blind irrational hatred get in you way.
 

Oric

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If you are provoked by a building, life is going to be hard for you. You are becoming what you hate ...
 

FaaR

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What does an US Mosque have to do with the Saudi Arabians who led the September 11, 2001 attacks?
Nothing. But most americans seem to be hopelessly stupid and ignorant these days, so what can you expect?
 

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Who is this "they" that you speak of? A bunch of Saudis that joined AQ are building a mosque? If not, I don't see a connection.

But hey, don't let blind irrational hatred get in you way.

They didn't kill in the name of Al Quaida. They killed in the name of Allah. And they continue to kill. After they destroyed what was there, they now want to replace it with something of their own. Its like having a guy come to your house, rape your wife and kids, then you decide to rent a room in your house to his brother.
 
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They didn't kill in the name of Al Quaida. They killed in the name of Allah. And they continue to kill. After they destroyed what was there, they now want to replace it with something of their own. Its like having a guy come to your house, rape your wife and kids, then you decide to rent a room to his brother.

Not really. Maybe you're just too stupid to differentiate between the people that want to do the killing and the millions upon millions of people who want nothing to do with the killing.

But if we want to play absurdities, Allah = God, which is the same one in the Christian and Jewish faiths. That must mean that Jews and Christians want to kill us. OMG!!! WE SHOULD STOP BUILDING CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES!!!!@@!#@!
 

GarfieldtheCat

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They didn't kill in the name of Al Quaida. They killed in the name of Allah. And they continue to kill. After they destroyed what was there, they now want to replace it with something of their own. Its like having a guy come to your house, rape your wife and kids, then you decide to rent a room in your house to his brother.

So I guess you would not support a Christian memorial in Oklahoma, after that Christian terrorist McVeigh blew up a building, right? I doubt it.

If you can't realize that ALL Muslims are not terrorists, there really isn't any hope for you. Extremists of ALL religions do not mean that all members of their religion are guilty. Doesn't anyone teach basic reasoning skills in school anymore? I mean, this is basic logic 101 here.

If you want direct your misplaced anger, what about those NYC officials that allow this (to you) travesty? Obviously they must be doing something wrong, right (at least in your mind)?
 

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That's more the point. Obviously, if it was illegal, it would be a different issue.

I see libs here defending the right for muslims to be disrespectful and taunting our nation from within it's borders, but want to literally kill any christian that wants to ban abortion.

Im not religious either way, but the ends that most of the libs on this board will go to suck a terrorist dick is amazing.

Do you really believe all Muslims are terrorists?

Yes of course you do.
 
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Not really. Maybe you're just too stupid to differentiate between the people that want to do the killing and the millions upon millions of people who want nothing to do with the killing.

But if we want to play absurdities, Allah = God, which is the same one in the Christian and Jewish faiths. That must mean that Jews and Christians want to kill us. OMG!!! WE SHOULD STOP BUILDING CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES!!!!@@!#@!

Clearly you and few others are fvcking morons, but thats ok. Why a mosque? They want to show good faith, why not rebuild one of the damn buidlings that was there? They wanna show how remorseful they are, why not donate that money to the families who lost loved ones in the slaughter? How about to the hundreds who have health issues related to the disaster? To put a mosque up of all things is nothing more than a slap in the face.
 
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Clearly you and few others are fvcking morons, but thats ok. Why a mosque? They want to show good faith, why not rebuild one of the damn buidlings that was there? They wanna show how remorseful they are, why not donate that money to the families who lost loved ones in the slaughter? How about to the hundreds who have health issues related to the disaster? To put a mosque up of all things is nothing more than a slap in the face.

You want to see a moron, you need only look in a mirror.

Why are ALL muslims responsible for a few extremists? Do you hold all Christians responsible for the murder of Dr. Tiller or when an abortion clinic is bombed?

Why not a mosque? Maybe they want to show that they are not part of the asshole-killing-others crowd.
 

EndGame

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Nah......it's not like Islam has ever built a mosque within a few years of other Islamic "victories" in places of great signifigance to the people of that land......(Constantinopal, Israel)...........
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Clearly you and few others are fvcking morons, but thats ok.

LOL at that statement, given that in your mind Muslim=terrorist.

So All Christians are terrorists, after McVeigh, or ERR, or Tiller?

Again, learn some logical reasoning skills. It will really help when you grow up.
 

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So I guess you would not support a Christian memorial in Oklahoma, after that Christian terrorist McVeigh blew up a building, right? I doubt it.

If you can't realize that ALL Muslims are not terrorists, there really isn't any hope for you. Extremists of ALL religions do not mean that all members of their religion are guilty. Doesn't anyone teach basic reasoning skills in school anymore? I mean, this is basic logic 101 here.

If you want direct your misplaced anger, what about those NYC officials that allow this (to you) travesty? Obviously they must be doing something wrong, right (at least in your mind)?

Timothy didn't go a damn killing spree in the name of Jesus, assclown. And forget the reasoning skills, maybe your stupid ass needs reading comprehension. I never said they were all terrorists, but there is something wrong with the idea of building a damn mosque in the very area this happened as some kind of memorial? Are you kidding me? And if you read my first post, you can read right, I said quote

Whoever approved this buidling permit should be fired.
 

Oric

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Nah......it's not like Islam has ever built a mosque within a few years of other Islamic "victories" in places of great signifigance to the people of that land......(Constantinopal, Israel)...........

Sept 11 was an Islamic victory ? Says who ?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Timothy didn't go a damn killing spree in the name of Jesus, assclown. And forget the reasoning skills, maybe your stupid ass needs reading comprehension. I never said they were all terrorists, but there is something wrong with the idea of building a damn mosque in the very area this happened as some kind of memorial? Are you kidding me? And if you read my first post, you can read right, I said quote

Wow, I think you need serious anger management counseling before we can even begin to try to teach you logical reasoning.

Again, how do you think that all Muslims are terrorists?

And blowing up a building isn't a killing spree? ERR's bombing of the Olympics and an abortion clinic? Tiller's assassination of an abortion doctor? That's OK in your mind I guess?

So how come all Christians aren't terrorists? Those are documented cases of Christians killing.
 

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Sept 11 was an Islamic victory ? Says who ?
The same kind of Muslim who thinks Sept 11 2011 is a good day to open a new Mosque near ground zero. Granted it's a minority, but they're out there.
 

EndGame

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Sept 11 was an Islamic victory ? Says who ?

Well, it's pretty obvious there are many whom view this as an Islamic victory of "The West". Have you watched/read any news the last several years?
 

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Anyone who watches the news knows that Sept 11 was a good excuse for United States to enhance its presence in the Middle East. About a million Iraqis (Muslim) are killed. If still someone says Sept 11 is/was an Islamic victory he is a bloody idiot :)
 

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You want to see a moron, you need only look in a mirror.

Why are ALL muslims responsible for a few extremists? Do you hold all Christians responsible for the murder of Dr. Tiller or when an abortion clinic is bombed?

Why not a mosque? Maybe they want to show that they are not part of the asshole-killing-others crowd.

You are missing the whole point I am making. I don't blame them or even what they believe. But, there is something wrong with the thinking rather than rebuilding what was there, they will build instead something that represents what they believe in, is twisted. This is about common decency. I didn't lose a loved one there, but rather than help repair the damage, they decide to build a building that suits only themselves and will be nothing more than a reminder of the pain. Tell me, where is the honor in that?
 

EndGame

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Anyone who watches the news knows that Sept 11 was a good excuse for United States to enhance its presence in the Middle East. About a million Iraqis (Muslim) are killed. If still someone says Sept 11 is/was an Islamic victory he is a bloody idiot :)

You said it, not me.........guess there are a lot of them that are "idiots" in your opinion then........
 

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LOL at that statement, given that in your mind Muslim=terrorist.

So All Christians are terrorists, after McVeigh, or ERR, or Tiller?

Again, learn some logical reasoning skills. It will really help when you grow up.

I don't think anyone here is as shallow as you want to paint them .

Classy is using sound reasoning. As are you .
As for your Muslim=terrorist . None here believe all Muslims are Evil terrorist. But many see the TIE between Muslims and terrorist since its been injected into our mindset for over 60 years now. Classy thoughts are natural for the info he has digested threw the years . Classy simply omitted the fact that he knows not all Muslims are evil. Which is what were discussing here. The IDEA BEHIND why they want a Worship house near ground zero is what raises my eyebrow. But really it doesn't matter what we say here the Place of worship will never stand. NYC won't let it happen if the city allows the people will not.
 

Oric

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You said it, not me.........guess there are a lot of them that are "idiots" in your opinion then........

You are avoiding my point. "those" may dream all the way to hell. Why are you offended if it is not a victory in your eyes ?
 

Kappo

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What's wrong with a mosque? If they paid for the land with their own money and committed no crimes, they can do whatever the hell they want. This is another example of PC ruining America.


What's wrong with picketing a funeral and calling the soldier who died a murder?

It's not PC running amok in this instance, it's the lack of common decency coupled with the ability to say "we fucked you, haha" in a public setting.
 

EndGame

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You are avoiding my point. "those" may dream all the way to hell. Why are you offended if it is not a victory in your eyes ?

Nice try at a "twist".......IF I'm offended at all, it's because some do see it as a "victory". Back to my original statement that Islam has done similar things in the past. May or may not be but the irony is there. If the owners of the land want to build a "memorial" on that site, why not make it non-denominational or, make it a "community center" with no religious ties whatsoever.