That mosque being built adjacent to ground zero?

[CitizenKain]

If the group responsible for wanting to build this mosque had any class, they wouldn't have pursued this option (even though they have every right to) and everyone could have gone on with their daily lives.

They know damn well this is going to piss off a bunch of Americans, and they obviously don't care about that.

The whole world is supposed to be sensitive to them and their religion, but yet they cannot return the same decency, respect and courtesy to the citizens of NYC. Pretty sad and selfish...

They aren't going to piss off Americans, they are going to piss off people like you.

 

[her209]

For all intents and purposes, 2 blocks away is on the site. It's symbolic, it's a taunt by islam as a whole. They're using our freedom of religion to slap us in the face, and the only way we could stop it is by becoming like any one of their countries - a lawless, freedomless shithole. It sucks. We need to make this a special case and prevent it from being built.

LOL... if it bothers you that much, might I suggest not going to the opening of the mosque when its complete.

 

[Bowfinger]

I am not questioning her intentions...She still intentionally stirring up a hornet's nest...Why create a controvery of this magnitude if you don't have to? Just because you can doesn't mean you should...

Apparently, because the two groups see a community need for facilities not available in that area, a need that the planning board seemed to agree with unanimously. She also is hoping to counter the ignorance and bigotry so many Americans have against Islam by presenting a positive alternative.

One simply needs to look at this thread to see just how right she is, with all the hateful references to what "they" did on 9/11 and such absurdities as, "Why didn't other Muslims speak out against the attacks?" Hint, they did, all over the world. I'm sorry if your favorite AM radio blowhard didn't bother to mention that, but that's not the fault of Muslims.

 

[CKent]

Wow, 0 for 3. You're raising willful ignorance to new heights (i.e., lows).

1. Islam was NOT responsible for 9/11, any more than Christianity is responsible for the bombings of abortion clinics. A bunch of terrorist extremists who profess belief in in Islam were.

2. They're NOT building this at ground zero. It's two blocks away.

3. They're NOT opening it on the tenth anniversary of 9/11. They hope to break ground before then.

I suggest you give your bigotry a rest and educate yourself a bit.

Heh, I have educated myself. In the months after 9/11 I sought to quell my hate by learning about islam, sure that muslims were mostly no different from me; generally peaceful, normal people. The more I learned about islam, the more I realized this was not the case. I had projected my own values onto a culture I knew nothing about, and assumed that what I wanted to think must be true.

I learned about child marriages / rape. I learned about stonings of women for committing crimes like going in public without a related male companion or being raped. I learned about honor killings. I learned about daily suicide bombings. I learned about using children as human shields. I learned about rocket attacks from gaza into Israel, timed to coincide with Israeli schoolchildrens' commutes to/from school. I learned about the death penalty for victimless drug crimes. And on and on.

Being informed about islam has drastically lowered my opinion of it.

 

[HumblePie]

Meh, I find it in a little bad taste. Not as bad as I originally was led to believe. A couple blocks away is more than enough considering how hard it is to find real estate there. Now if they were opening on 9/11 I would have been a bit more upset as it was alluded to earlier in this thread. Since it isn't, oh well. As others said, sometimes things are considered not just in poor taste but illegal to be there based upon zoning.

As examples:

You don't open up a new prison for pedophile sex offenders next to an elementary school do you?

You can not open up a strip club next to a school or church or amusement park.

You can not open an industrial manufacturing building in a residential neighborhood.


Well, not every city/county/state has zoning laws. Houston for example I know didn't have zoning laws for a long time. You can find some places where there is a strip joint, liquor store, church, and high school all right next door to each other on the same street. It's a little ridiculous to be sure and I think they've started addressing these.




On a personal note, being atheist, I would have no problem with no more places of worship being built anywhere. I find them all offensive places to brainwash people into delusions of fantasy that should not exist anymore. That's just me personally though. Because I respect the laws of this nation, I'm not upset enough to do anything about them in that regard. Easier to convince someone the fallacy of religion and get them to stop going than to try and remove a place of worship. No worshippers = no house of worship needed

 

[Turin39789]

Meh, I find it in a little bad taste. Not as bad as I originally was led to believe. A couple blocks away is more than enough considering how hard it is to find real estate there. Now if they were opening on 9/11 I would have been a bit more upset as it was alluded to earlier in this thread. Since it isn't, oh well. As others said, sometimes things are considered not just in poor taste but illegal to be there based upon zoning.

As examples:

You don't open up a new prison for pedophile sex offenders next to an elementary school do you?

You can not open up a strip club next to a school or church or amusement park.

You can not open an industrial manufacturing building in a residential neighborhood.


Well, not every city/county/state has zoning laws. Houston for example I know didn't have zoning laws for a long time. You can find some places where there is a strip joint, liquor store, church, and high school all right next door to each other on the same street. It's a little ridiculous to be sure and I think they've started addressing these.


On a personal note, being atheist, I would have no problem with no more places of worship being built anywhere. I find them all offensive places to brainwash people into delusions of fantasy that should not exist anymore. That's just me personally though. Because I respect the laws of this nation, I'm not upset enough to do anything about them in that regard. Easier to convince someone the fallacy of religion and get them to stop going than to try and remove a place of worship. No worshippers = no house of worship needed

Because Muslims are to the WTC as Pedophiles are to elementary schools?

What about the ones who died in the building?

You all seem to be saying that you haven't seen any peaceful normal Muslims, that they are all ragged jihadis and fundies. To counter this they try to build a mosque where you can see them being normal (normal for religous folks at least) and it is a slap in your faces?

It sounds like the "opening on sept 11" thing is factually incorrect, but hell some people might consider opening up a cultural center that promotes peace and understanding to be honoring those who lost their lives to the backward fuckwads and a slap in the face of the fuckwads who want to convince everyone that America is Islam's enemy.