That hippo is charging you! Shoot man SHOOT!

[Descartes]

I'd like to see a video of his ass trampled by an elephant.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
OP, you seem to be a little out of touch with reality on this issue. Deer hunting to control the population is one thing, but to control the Elephant population??? Please, WTF are you talking about?!

Elephants are illegal to hunt are they not? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think they even grant special permission for that sorta thing anymore, but I guess I could be wrong on that. I'm sure, with enough money, in certain parts of Africa you could hunt people if you wanted.

Speaking of which, seeing this video makes me think of one thing, I could track down and hunt people like this before I would an animal that didn't need to be slain.

I used to hunt, and can still hunt very well but I choose not to. I only forsee myself hunting again if the world goes to ****** and I need to feed my family.

Though I'd certainly take it back up in a heartbeat if given the chance to put two in the chest and one in the head of these cock gobblers.

I'm not out of touch, I'm asking a very real question.
Are or are not penguins near extinction in Arizona?
Well, if Zimbabwe has 90% of the elephant population in all of Africa then yes, elephants may be endangered in Africa while Zimbabwe may be up to its ass in tusks.

I dont know, and I wont pretend to unlike some.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
what???

dude, you're crazy... these animals are ENDANGERED! the only population control needed with these animals is controlled breeding and proliferation.

Ok. Post stats giving big game populations. Back up your statements.
I said quite clearly why hunting is allowed. I ALSO clarified that by stating I dont know the populations in Africa, not what the hunting laws are.

Apparently you do. Please provide them.

I could also tell you penguins are near extinct in Arizona except for those in zoos.. Well no kidding. So give us big game numbers proving your point. Elephants may very well be extinct in....say...South Africa. But maybe in Zimbabwe they have population problems. Who knows?

Apparently you do. Again, please provide the info as I'm curious.

More info here.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: eits
it's obvious that specops is talking out of his ass and is a hardcore hunting-of-any-kind advocate, whether it's endangered or not.

No, its obvious specop has his head pulled out of his ass and doesnt make assumptions.

One of them being that trophy hunters are responsible for species depletion. Of course, I dont want to rain on your parade so I wont tell you trophy hunters are actually good for populations lest it shatter your fragile make believe reality.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
what???

dude, you're crazy... these animals are ENDANGERED! the only population control needed with these animals is controlled breeding and proliferation.

Ok. Post stats giving big game populations. Back up your statements.
I said quite clearly why hunting is allowed. I ALSO clarified that by stating I dont know the populations in Africa, not what the hunting laws are.

Apparently you do. Please provide them.

I could also tell you penguins are near extinct in Arizona except for those in zoos.. Well no kidding. So give us big game numbers proving your point. Elephants may very well be extinct in....say...South Africa. But maybe in Zimbabwe they have population problems. Who knows?

Apparently you do. Again, please provide the info as I'm curious.

More info here.

Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

 

[schleppy]

This guy has PETA written all over him, as if the worlds ecosystem isn't fragile enough. Killing some of the worlds rarest animals is just plain wrong. He should be shot.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
it's obvious that specops is talking out of his ass and is a hardcore hunting-of-any-kind advocate, whether it's endangered or not.

No, its obvious specop has his head pulled out of his ass and doesnt make assumptions.

One of them being that trophy hunters are responsible for species depletion. Of course, I dont want to rain on your parade so I wont tell you trophy hunters are actually good for populations lest it shatter your fragile make believe reality.

Go to my link above, type in the name of some big game in Africa, then reevaluate your statement.

Note: I'm talking about big game in Africa as shown in the video.

 

[monk3y]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I'm not out of touch, I'm asking a very real question.
Are or are not penguins near extinction in Arizona?
Well, if Zimbabwe has 90% of the elephant population in all of Africa then yes, elephants may be endangered in Africa while Zimbabwe may be up to its ass in tusks.

I dont know, and I wont pretend to unlike some.

Penguins are native to Arizona? I'm confused as to the point you are making.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
what???

dude, you're crazy... these animals are ENDANGERED! the only population control needed with these animals is controlled breeding and proliferation.

Ok. Post stats giving big game populations. Back up your statements.
I said quite clearly why hunting is allowed. I ALSO clarified that by stating I dont know the populations in Africa, not what the hunting laws are.

Apparently you do. Please provide them.

I could also tell you penguins are near extinct in Arizona except for those in zoos.. Well no kidding. So give us big game numbers proving your point. Elephants may very well be extinct in....say...South Africa. But maybe in Zimbabwe they have population problems. Who knows?

Apparently you do. Again, please provide the info as I'm curious.

More info here.

Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

But the overall concentration appears to have dwindled over the past few decades per my italicized segment.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

Overabundant because expansion forces more of them into smaller territories.

 

[Estrella]

as long as the guy is killing for some helpful legit reason

Either way I do not care for killing just about anything except for insects but, I would not exactly hug a hippo either.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

Overabundant because expansion forces more of them into smaller territories.

I wont disagree with that. Its a double edged sword.

The big (simple) picture is that human expansion forces animals into smaller areas. This is turn leads to higher densities in these areas and allows for the possibility of overpopulations in localized regions.

Whats your solution. Look fellas, I aint trying to fight you on this. But you cant have your cake and eat it too. You either have enough land to properly sustain high population levels or you have high population levels in too small of an area.
In the former human progress is limited or stopped. In the latter you end up in the vicious cycle of having to cull herds to meet the area or you have herd sizes too big and animals starve to death.

But saying trophy hunters are the bad guys in this is pretty short sighted. Trophy hunters are more a spinoff of an answer to a problem created earlier. The biggest drain on populations is in fact poaching and loss of natural habitat. Dont blame the trophy hunters.

And yes, as someone mentioned above I do support about all hunting. Believe it or not hunters ARE environmentalists. We (as a group) care about the animals, for the very reason that we hunt them. In fact I would argue your hunter cares about animal populations moreso then some granola eating hippie living in the city who campaigns for animal rights for emotional feel good reasons.

 

[davew0670]

that guy is a genuine fat pussy. Want to be tough? kill it with a club or something.


I hate people that hunt for sport. hunt for your food? thats fine.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: davew0670
that guy is a genuine fat pussy. Want to be tough? kill it with a club or something.


I hate people that hunt for sport. hunt for your food? thats fine.

I dunno man. I'll call the guy alot, but pussy aint one of them.

You have to admit, it takes balls to stand your ground while something the size of a Wolkswagen bus is charging you, hell bent on turning you into a door mat and not shooting until its literally at your feet.

He may be an assclown, but he sure isnt a pussy. That guy needs casters to wheel his testicles around.

 

[SpanishFry]

good lord. how many of these animals does this guy kill?

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: davew0670
that guy is a genuine fat pussy. Want to be tough? kill it with a club or something.


I hate people that hunt for sport. hunt for your food? thats fine.

I dunno man. I'll call the guy alot, but pussy aint one of them.

You have to admit, it takes balls to stand your ground while something the size of a Wolkswagen bus is charging you, hell bent on turning you into a door mat and not shooting until its literally at your feet.

He may be an assclown, but he sure isnt a pussy. That guy needs casters to wheel his testicles around.

You're acting like this hippo was in his living room threatening his family! He needs to shoot an endangered animal in order to inflate his sense of manhood. In other words, he's a pussy.

 

[davew0670]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: davew0670
that guy is a genuine fat pussy. Want to be tough? kill it with a club or something.


I hate people that hunt for sport. hunt for your food? thats fine.

I dunno man. I'll call the guy alot, but pussy aint one of them.

You have to admit, it takes balls to stand your ground while something the size of a Wolkswagen bus is charging you, hell bent on turning you into a door mat and not shooting until its literally at your feet.

He may be an assclown, but he sure isnt a pussy. That guy needs casters to wheel his testicles around.

nope, he's a fat pussy.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
what???

dude, you're crazy... these animals are ENDANGERED! the only population control needed with these animals is controlled breeding and proliferation.

Ok. Post stats giving big game populations. Back up your statements.
I said quite clearly why hunting is allowed. I ALSO clarified that by stating I dont know the populations in Africa, not what the hunting laws are.

Apparently you do. Please provide them.

I could also tell you penguins are near extinct in Arizona except for those in zoos.. Well no kidding. So give us big game numbers proving your point. Elephants may very well be extinct in....say...South Africa. But maybe in Zimbabwe they have population problems. Who knows?

Apparently you do. Again, please provide the info as I'm curious.

More info here.

Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

But the overall concentration appears to have dwindled over the past few decades per my italicized segment.

it's futile, dude. anything you say to this guy might as well be moot.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Looks like he takes the Jimbo and Ned route of hunting.

"Look out Ned, it's coming right at us!"

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: eits
what???

dude, you're crazy... these animals are ENDANGERED! the only population control needed with these animals is controlled breeding and proliferation.

Ok. Post stats giving big game populations. Back up your statements.
I said quite clearly why hunting is allowed. I ALSO clarified that by stating I dont know the populations in Africa, not what the hunting laws are.

Apparently you do. Please provide them.

I could also tell you penguins are near extinct in Arizona except for those in zoos.. Well no kidding. So give us big game numbers proving your point. Elephants may very well be extinct in....say...South Africa. But maybe in Zimbabwe they have population problems. Who knows?

Apparently you do. Again, please provide the info as I'm curious.

More info here.

Thanks.

The mammals of the genus Loxodonta, often known collectively as African elephants, are found in several regions throughout the continent, after which they are named. In recent years, Loxodonta has received the attention of the world because of its dwindling numbers. Today there are approximately 600,000 African elephants in the world [4]. Some believe this represents a stable population and that measures to protect them are unnecessary. Others argue that while elephants are locally overabundant in certain areas, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the overall population has dropped by a staggering amount. As recently as 1979 there were an estimated 1.3 million African elephants. Now less than one half of that population exists. This decline is attributed primarily to poaching and habitat loss.

But the overall concentration appears to have dwindled over the past few decades per my italicized segment.

it's futile, dude. anything you say to this guy might as well be moot.

I agree. Blaming trophy hunters for population depletion is like blaming the gas in the car for the car wreck.

 

[NatePo717]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Wait, I thought hunting elephants was illigal?

yeah me too!

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: NatePo717

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Wait, I thought hunting elephants was illigal?

yeah me too!

Rules and regulations on anti-poaching is something UN created, it's up to the countries to enforce them. Some countries simply don't give a flying fvck about what animals are on the endanger species list.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Meh... I have no problem with hunters. I grew up with a freezer full of moose meat. I ate so much moose I'm surprised I don't have antlers. If you kill it to eat it, cool. Mount that rack... Make a nice rug out of it. No big deal.

But I've never been comfortable with trophy hunting. I mean, who the eff eats a hippo? And if you're killing for the "rush" like that guy seems to be doing, you need help.

That's how I feel. Living in Alaska eating moose/caribou is completely normal.

Not a fan of trophy hunting. Elephants? I don't think I could shoot one unless it was running at me and I didn't have a choice.

 

[KK]

ANybody ever watch OLN when they have some of these african safari hunts on. The few times I watched, at the end they'd have a memorial to someone that died hunting cape buffalo or hippos. I just have to laugh at that when I see it.
Reminds me of that oprah show where they had some fat guy that had that gasteral bypass surgery on it, and he lost alot of wieght. He was on there talking how great it was. Then after the show was a memorial to the guy, he had a massive heart attack and died. That made me chuckle.

 

[Zekial]

thats one guy i hope gets run over