right, what I'm saying is that it wouldn't influence a trend in either direction because the unemployment numbers have always been completely agnostic of retirees.Don't think it's a matter of "looking at it differently" or trying to give/deny credit to anyone but was rather just a hypothesis about one reason the trend seems to be going the way it is. I'll freely admit my thinking could be completely wrong and perhaps exactly opposite of reality but I was just sort of thinking aloud.
When did Trump take over? I can't tell from the graph.Numbers don't lie. However Trump said when he was running the numbers were fake so I wonder if we should trust them even though the method for calculation has not changed.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/I believe he's speaking from experience.
R, L and mouth.
The State of Illinois might have a slightly different perspective on this than you do.No, it's just following a familiar pattern from the past few decades. Republicans create the financial problems; Democrats fix the problems; Republicans take credit for fixing the problems.
Yeah we heard the same thing when slots were legalized in bars. Honestly no amount of weed sales is going to fix the pension problem we have and the All Kids Care program. The State could sell as much pot as Mexico exports to the US and it probably still wouldn't cover those two things. hahaOnce they legalize marijuana they'll be ok.
Easy, Trump ishttps://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/
It's a toss up on who's the dumber bitch. The one I quoted or the two who commented after.
Didn't they also spend (under Rauner) over $500K on new front doors for the Capital in Springfield? Seems they have more than a pension spending problem.Yeah we heard the same thing when slots were legalized in bars. Honestly no amount of weed sales is going to fix the pension problem we have and the All Kids Care program. The State could sell as much pot as Mexico exports to the US and it probably still wouldn't cover those two things. haha
Before anyone jumps down my throat I know that is an exaggeration.
I believe is was former Governor Quinn who approved the project and went foreword with it as part of a $50 million renovation to the State capitol. He became Governor when Rod Blagojevich was removed from office for attempting to sell Senator Obama's vacant seat when he became President.Didn't they also spend (under Rauner) over $500K on new front doors for the Capital in Springfield? Seems they have more than a pension spending problem.
Did large corporations take the initiative to raise their wage out of humiliation or was it to placate politicians? Most multi billion dollar corporations that are either service based like fast food or retail are investing heavily in automation but they haven't quite reached the point were they can fully rely on it.THEY never liked giving Obama credit for the good things, so why should we give Trump credit for the good things that just randomly happens during Trump?
IF.... IF we are to give anyone credit and understand this, it's probably Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren's hard work, not Donald Trump.
Remember.... it was Sanders and Warren that originally brought wage into the conversation.
Sanders and Warren insisting workers earn $10 or $13 or $15 an hour. A decent starting wage.
And business then took notice, and took the initiative, well.... for the most part. More so in humiliation than with the desire.
Walmart raised their wage then fast food began raising their wage.
So if this good news on employment is to be owned by anyone it's Bernie and Elizabeth as the true owners.
DONALD TRUMP had absolutely NOTHING TO DO with this... NADA! Zilch!
Donald Trump actually resisted raising workers wages, and fought against providing a decent living wage within America. Remember?????
I know Donald Trump lies and often takes credit where no credit is due, BUT.....
When as Americans did we stop listening and seeing the truth?
You can't blame Donald Trump for lying. That is what he lives for, to lie.
But the rest of us should be ashamed if we actually believe Donald Trump or his policies uplifted American workers in any way.
In all fairness, his policies did uplift some. Some being those multibillionaires like Donald Trump. THEY all got raises.
Bernie and Liz gave American workers a better wage, and THAT is why employment is up and more people are working.
For the better wages they are getting thanks to Sanders and Warren.
Not a damn thing to do with Donald Trump.
It's entirely Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren that did the heavy lifting to achieve this.
Donald Trump claiming he did anything for the middle class worker is like a New York rat claiming it helped clean up the streets of New York.
The rats may have eaten a little of that trash off the street, but you are still left with THE RATS.
Comparison to Donald Trump? Yep! It is what it is.
This big fat orange rat taking credit when all he actually did was eat some of the trash.
Ps. Visit my original thread posted first on this subject.
People will only remain unemployed as society allows them to. It's really that simple.right, what I'm saying is that it wouldn't influence a trend in either direction because the unemployment numbers have always been completely agnostic of retirees.
Employment/Unemployment numbers only account for employable/seeking employment adults.
Assuming static numbers (nobody hired or fired), people leaving the workforce via retirement would drive up the unemployment percentages, as the percentage of people out of work would increase compared to the number of people in the workforce.
Now, realistically, that's not the case. What's far more probable is that the economy is doing 'okay' for business owners, so they're hiring more compared to a few years ago. It's also possible (but I'm ignorant to this topic) that there's changes to rules regarding how people are counted for 'employed' 'not employed' or 'not seeking'. It's also possible the gig economy has ramped up quite a bit, and now there's people technically considered 'working' even if they're at below minimum wage levels.
Regardless of our President's stupid statements, he is absolutely correct in that our labor force partition rate is overall DOWN historically.
I know, re-read what I said in my first paragraph. Assume you have 90% of a workforce of 100m employed, and 10% of that workforce unemployed (so 10m people). Lets say in an exaggerated example, 10m employed people retire in one year. Assuming zero change otherwise, you now only have 80m of your workforce employed, and 10m still searching, thus the percentage of people searching for work goes up.No - Actually, it won't.
The unemployment figure is based strictly only on those that which are actively applying for a new position. If you are not applying for a new position - and actually stop applying for jobs - you will not be considered a part of the work force... hence you will not be a part of the unemployment. It's that simple.
Trump takes plenty of credit for unemployment, it's one of his key economic talking points. If he's going to take credit for it, he's also going to have to take credit for it and anything else he says is great because of his policies. Especially when they go the other way, but I suppose then it will be Obama's fault.The president has very little to do with the overall economy Detective dipshit.
I don't equate the unemployment anymore to Trump than I do to Obummer....