Thanks GWB

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

And your lineral Gods had the helm for how many decades between when we noticed the crunch and. Lets see, from 1973 to 2001. 2.8 decades years that they did nothing. Of course, I know that Bush is much smarter, but he also had a war to manage while all they had to do was to buy enough votes with social (formally research and defense) money to stay in power. Thanks liberals!

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I live in an area where gas prices are not too high, I paid $2.79 a gallon this morning, which is up about $.30 a gallon from last time I got gas on Monday.

I feel sorry for the people that try and stand up for the wasted vote spent on this evil man.

I am also sorry for the children of my generation who will bear the burden of this man, the worst environmental president in history. I really wish he wasn't so busy spending on fighting, and he would actually invest some money into the research and development programs for renewable resources and efficient alternative fuel sources.

I could go on and on, but why bother when it will only fall onto deaf ears.....

Stop whining!! You may come back when your gas prices hit $6.30. Thats what I am paying and I aint whining - well technically now I am

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yes, we all know the president sets the gas prices for the entire country every morning before breakfast.

well when I said deaf ears, maybe I should have said dumb ears in your case.

Did you read????

If Bush wouldn't have CUT funding to research alternative fuel research, myabe we would be further along towards the inevitable goal of having to move in that direction.

And your lineral Gods had the helm for how many decades between when we noticed the crunch and. Lets see, from 1973 to 2001. 2.8 decades years that they did nothing. Of course, I know that Bush is much smarter, but he also had a war to manage while all they had to do was to buy enough votes with social (formally research and defense) money to stay in power. Thanks liberals!

I guess I missed the part where I said that I was a liberal.....I am a registered independent, I weigh the issues and then make an educated decision on who I feel stands for what I believe in. GWB doesn't stand for anything...his foolish clowns around him like Rove do all the thinking for him.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Yep. Facts be damned. I notice you don't address your former claims about Reagan and Bush Sr., and now have returned to your standard method of reply - C&Ping opinions.

Hey dumba$$, did you miss this?

Originally posted by: BBond

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Yep. Facts be damned. I notice you don't address your former claims about Reagan and Bush Sr., and now have returned to your standard method of reply - C&Ping opinions.

Hey dumba$$, did you miss this?

Originally posted by: BBond

Read what I said. Reagan came into office and completely gutted the alternative energy initiatives championed by President Carter. Bush I, being a complete whore for the oil industry for decades, continued on this path. Bush II, along with Cheney and his top secret meetings with energy industry officials who dictated U.S. energy policy (I wonder why Cheney was do adamant about hiding the facts behidn THOSE meetings) followed in the very same direction.

Now we have the USA bogged down in an unnecessary war in a nation that owns the world's second or third largest oil reserves while energy prices skyrocket. Add to that Enron's fleecing of the West Coast energy markets in 2001 and 2002. Add to that the wholesale giveaway of America's forests to the logging industry and what picture do you get?

I get a progression of Republican administrations completely controlled by short sighted corporate interests that they don't give a damn about energy costs, the environment, or Americans other that a very few of their friends who sit on those corporate boards.

When Bush successfully overthrew the U.S. government, gas prices were around $1 per gallon. They're $3 per gallon now AFTER Bush's unnecessary, unprovoked attack against Iraq.

Does that make sense to you? It doesn't make sense to me. Unless you realize that the energy industry, in collusion with the Bush administration, is fleecing America for every cent they can get. Just like they did on the West Coast back in 2001-2002 when they got the green light from their lackies in the Bush White House.

Hey moron. I already replied to that.

Reagan and Bush 1 cut funding? What about the Alternative Motor Fuels Act of 1988, which was implemented by Reagan and VP Bush? How about the Energy Policy Act of 1992?

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/about.html

and btw, correlation!=causation. The war on Iraq has very little to do with the price of oil, particularly since the output from Iraq is very nearly up to pre-war levels.

But please do keep squawking ignorantly. I love seeing you make a complete fool of yourself and rant about things you are absolutely clueless about in your blind partisan rage to blame every ill in the world on Bush, the neocons, or the Republicans.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Train
The govt funding for alternative fuels was a joke. You honestly think we would have less dependence within 4 years? LOL

The funding wasn't accomplishing anything. The Private energy companies are way ahead of it anyways. BP, Sunoco, Marathon, Shell, etc, are all years ahead of any govt funded energy development. Privately funded research beats out govt funded research, SHOCKER!

And I thought Bush was unable to control his spending? I hear that all the time, yet then again I hear complaints about the funding he's cut quite often. Go figure.

Cool! I didn't know you were a scientist. Done research? Cool. Me too. Been a while though. My field was cellular biology. How about you? Always interested in people's academic careers.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

ROFL OwnD

The whole reason I ignored you is becuase I knew that it would drive you nuts.

I would rather just laugh at you and leave you on ignore.....If you are man enough you will say what you need to say to me in the forum rather then through the PM. The only reason you need to PM is to cry like a little baby, the only reason I cry is when I pull up to the pump to pay $3.00 a gallon....Thanks for voting GWB in office.

WTF? Someone please (re?)ban this troll-tard before he makes it a full week here. :disgust:

 

[umbrella39]

Don't blame GWB for the prices.

Blame the oil companies who can not put aside their record profits for even a few weeks and fix gas prices where they were at before the hurricane to help the American public.

That should tell you all you need to know about big oil. They don't give a sh!t about you and me.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Train
The govt funding for alternative fuels was a joke. You honestly think we would have less dependence within 4 years? LOL

The funding wasn't accomplishing anything. The Private energy companies are way ahead of it anyways. BP, Sunoco, Marathon, Shell, etc, are all years ahead of any govt funded energy development. Privately funded research beats out govt funded research, SHOCKER!

And I thought Bush was unable to control his spending? I hear that all the time, yet then again I hear complaints about the funding he's cut quite often. Go figure.

Cool! I didn't know you were a scientist. Done research? Cool. Me too. Been a while though. My field was cellular biology. How about you? Always interested in people's academic careers.

Just got to share Train's intelectual genius with you, from his input in Off-Topic about Baseball:

Start here -

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
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Originally posted by: Train
I'm pretty sure the loss goes by score, I never heard of runners on base "belonging" to the pitcher that was on the mound when the got on base.

The pitcher who was in the game when they lost the lead gets the loss.

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Stay out of threads you don't understand. The pitcher responsible for the runner who scored the winning run gets the loss. The first pitcher who put those guys on base gets the loss.
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Wow you guys are all fvcking geniuses after someone cuts and pastes the rule. I could have googled it too.

And then a little later - after I called him on knowing the 'Rules'

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
...Good God, and you're an example of our Military ?
Rules - Bullsh!t boy !
RULES OF ENGAGEMENT - DOES THAT RING A BELL !
Let's just run over and shoot up those guys over there, doesn't matter if they're friendlys,
or even our own troops, rules don't mean anything.
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wow, I thought we were talking about baseball. Way to go off the deep end moron.

Try addressing my two main points in the last post:

1) The rule in question would not change the outcome of a game.

2) Since when does someone have to be correct to post in ATOT?

The guy's a fraud.

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

ROFL OwnD

The whole reason I ignored you is becuase I knew that it would drive you nuts.

I would rather just laugh at you and leave you on ignore.....If you are man enough you will say what you need to say to me in the forum rather then through the PM. The only reason you need to PM is to cry like a little baby, the only reason I cry is when I pull up to the pump to pay $3.00 a gallon....Thanks for voting GWB in office.

WTF? Someone please (re?)ban this troll-tard before he makes it a full week here. :disgust:

Yeah that's what you got....good one.

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Don't blame GWB for the prices.

Blame the oil companies who can not put aside their record profits for even a few weeks and fix gas prices where they were at before the hurricane to help the American public.

That should tell you all you need to know about big oil. They don't give a sh!t about you and me.

GWB still has ties to Big oil, I think that's a given.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: conjur
Finally passed an energy bill that gives Billions more in credits and tax breaks to an industry already reaping tens of billions in profits per year.

Wait. You think corporations pay taxes? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Corporations pass the cost of taxes over to consumers, shareholders, employees. We are the ones that pay them.

 

[Brentx]

Just to add this here. If Bush did improve funding to alternative fuel source research, do you actually think that we would be using those alternative source over night? It would take a decade at least, to implement the alternate source of fuel into society. They still don't think that fuel cells will be the new fuel, as the costs of transporting Hydrogen are ridiculously high. It would take us 25 years at least to get an alternate fuel source ready for the public. Plus there are other companies that are not in US borders that would be willing to pay high amounts of money to see these alternate fuel sources just disappear. It would be impractical to go ahead and up development for alternate fuel resources at this time.

And so what if Bush has oil ties? If I was president and I was involved in the oil industry, I sure as hell would be pushing programs to benefit my pocket. You would too. So stop whining about how Bush has done this and that. This country is controlled by money and soley that, havent you figured that out yet?

Alternate fuel sources are just not practical at this time. We still have plenty of people in NASA and other government and private research companies that are doing research today on alternate fuel sources. Once the basic research has been done, we can then start spending more federal money into the development.

 

[umbrella39]

Refining capacity can't continue to be so thin that a single storm in an isolated region of the country can send gasoline prices through the roof.

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: Brentx
Just to add this here. If Bush did improve funding to alternative fuel source research, do you actually think that we would be using those alternative source over night? It would take a decade at least, to implement the alternate source of fuel into society. They still don't think that fuel cells will be the new fuel, as the costs of transporting Hydrogen are ridiculously high. It would take us 25 years at least to get an alternate fuel source ready for the public. Plus there are other companies that are not in US borders that would be willing to pay high amounts of money to see these alternate fuel sources just disappear. It would be impractical to go ahead and up development for alternate fuel resources at this time.

And so what if Bush has oil ties? If I was president and I was involved in the oil industry, I sure as hell would be pushing programs to benefit my pocket. You would too. So stop whining about how Bush has done this and that. This country is controlled by money and soley that, havent you figured that out yet?

Alternate fuel sources are just not practical at this time. We still have plenty of people in NASA and other government and private research companies that are doing research today on alternate fuel sources. Once the basic research has been done, we can then start spending more federal money into the development.

OH MY MY MY>>>>fvucking Tard

1. If we started now to spend more money on alternative fuel research it would at least be ready in the near future. You said it would take a decade to implement alternative fuels into society, so at the start of Bush's Presidency to the end we would be 80% integrated to alternative fuel if he initiated it (which is a big hypothetical considering there is no fuel ready yet of rintegration into society yet...which is my point). This is a dumb argument.

2. This might be the dumbest statement I have ever read....at least the dumbest in this thread. If I was president I think I would understand the purpose of being president is really to serve the people and the country.....NOT TO FILL MY POCKETS. The Bush family has so much money does he really need to continue to fill his pockets???? I think not.

It's people like you who say such idiotic things that make the rest of the Right Wing freaks and Bush suporters look even dumber then they are......

JackA$$.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

Originally posted by: Brentx
Just to add this here. If Bush did improve funding to alternative fuel source research, do you actually think that we would be using those alternative source over night? It would take a decade at least, to implement the alternate source of fuel into society. They still don't think that fuel cells will be the new fuel, as the costs of transporting Hydrogen are ridiculously high. It would take us 25 years at least to get an alternate fuel source ready for the public. Plus there are other companies that are not in US borders that would be willing to pay high amounts of money to see these alternate fuel sources just disappear. It would be impractical to go ahead and up development for alternate fuel resources at this time.

And so what if Bush has oil ties? If I was president and I was involved in the oil industry, I sure as hell would be pushing programs to benefit my pocket. You would too. So stop whining about how Bush has done this and that. This country is controlled by money and soley that, havent you figured that out yet?

Alternate fuel sources are just not practical at this time. We still have plenty of people in NASA and other government and private research companies that are doing research today on alternate fuel sources. Once the basic research has been done, we can then start spending more federal money into the development.

OH MY MY MY>>>>fvucking Tard

1. If we started now to spend more money on alternative fuel research it would at least be ready in the near future. You said it would take a decade to implement alternative fuels into society, so at the start of Bush's Presidency to the end we would be 80% integrated to alternative fuel if he initiated it (which is a big hypothetical considering there is no fuel ready yet of rintegration into society yet...which is my point). This is a dumb argument.

2. This might be the dumbest statement I have ever read....at least the dumbest in this thread. If I was president I think I would understand the purpose of being president is really to serve the people and the country.....NOT TO FILL MY POCKETS. The Bush family has so much money does he really need to continue to fill his pockets???? I think not.

It's people like you who say such idiotic things that make the rest of the Right Wing freaks and Bush suporters look even dumber then they are......

JackA$$.

Oh look another potty mouth filled response from GamerExpressed

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur
The GOP has controlled the WH and the Congress for 4 1/2 years and wtf have they done?

What did Clinton do in 8 years?

You complete partisan hack. Reagan steered America away from energy independence and Bush's daddy continued in the same direction. Why do you continue to blame Clinton for the failures of Reagan/Bush/Bush. Didn't Clinton have enough on his plate ending the Reagan/Bush depression and fending off eight years of the Republican initiated U.S. taxpayer funded vendetta against a Democratic president wholly in retaliation for the well deserved resignation of that criminal Nixon?

I see. Absolutely nothing.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress

1. If we started now to spend more money on alternative fuel research it would at least be ready in the near future. You said it would take a decade to implement alternative fuels into society, so at the start of Bush's Presidency to the end we would be 80% integrated to alternative fuel if he initiated it (which is a big hypothetical considering there is no fuel ready yet of rintegration into society yet...which is my point). This is a dumb argument.

So out of our 43 presidents why didn't any of the first 42 do this?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur
The GOP has controlled the WH and the Congress for 4 1/2 years and wtf have they done?

What did Clinton do in 8 years?

For one, he ordered an end to speculation in energy prices in California. Something this administration repealed three days after inauguration.

He also proposed that BTU tax to encourage conservation; had a focus toward domestic, not foreign, oil; tax credits for energy efficient appliances, homes, and cars.

But, guess who cut him off at every pass?


The GOP-controlled Congress.

 

[zendari]

Thats interesting, because the BTU tax was first proposed in 1993, with a Democratic congress.

 

[Genx87]

Even more interesting is the idea he turned towards domestic oil supplies while the federal govt tied up land in the rockies. And during his term we managed to see a 54% increase in oil imports.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I live in an area where gas prices are not too high, I paid $2.79 a gallon this morning, which is up about $.30 a gallon from last time I got gas on Monday.

I feel sorry for the people that try and stand up for the wasted vote spent on this evil man.

I am also sorry for the children of my generation who will bear the burden of this man, the worst environmental president in history. I really wish he wasn't so busy spending on fighting, and he would actually invest some money into the research and development programs for renewable resources and efficient alternative fuel sources.

I could go on and on, but why bother when it will only fall onto deaf ears.....

Come on, and quit being so damn nieve.

Your high price at the pump isn't GWB's fault.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Refining capacity can't continue to be so thin that a single storm in an isolated region of the country can send gasoline prices through the roof.

:thumbsup:

 

[GamerExpress]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: GamerExpress
I live in an area where gas prices are not too high, I paid $2.79 a gallon this morning, which is up about $.30 a gallon from last time I got gas on Monday.

I feel sorry for the people that try and stand up for the wasted vote spent on this evil man.

I am also sorry for the children of my generation who will bear the burden of this man, the worst environmental president in history. I really wish he wasn't so busy spending on fighting, and he would actually invest some money into the research and development programs for renewable resources and efficient alternative fuel sources.

I could go on and on, but why bother when it will only fall onto deaf ears.....

Come on, and quit being so damn nieve.

Your high price at the pump isn't GWB's fault.

OK then tell me what he has done to help keep prices down??? and please don't say, invade Iraq....ROFL

 

[mc6809e]

TextDon't blame GWB for the prices.

Blame the oil companies who can not put aside their record profits for even a few weeks and fix gas prices where they were at before the hurricane to help the American public.

That should tell you all you need to know about big oil. They don't give a sh!t about you and me.

And why sould they? The top oil producers aren't even US companies. In fact 60% of our oil is imported.

And of the 40% that's domestic, most of those companies are tiny. Even Exxonmobil, the biggest US company only ranks about #13th in reserves. Saudi Arabian Oil Company controls about 10 times the amount of oil Exxonmobil does.

That fact is "big" American oil companies aren't big. They're bench-warmers compared to all the oil controlled by the state-owned oil companies around the world.

You want to know who are oil masters are? Look in the Middle-east, Mexico, Venezuela, and even Canada.