Our courts are better than most in other states.
Here you still have the right to trial by jury for speeding tickets and other traffic infractions.
Yea I was thinking the same. I can see the law being changed in a heart beat when a little 12 year old cute white girl is blasted in the back with a 12ga shotgun after she steals a candy bar from a store. And of course the shooter gets off as its the law.
I was actually just talking with a friend about this case and wondered what had happened. I understand that this is the law in Texas, but I don't agree with it in any way, shape, or form. In my mind, this guy committed murder. I just don't see how the sentence of death isn't cruel and unusual for the crime of robbery.
The grand jury choosing not to indict him means no precedent is set, correct? It would be such a good precedent too.
Pliablemoose
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The jury got this right.
IF you don't like the gun laws in Texas either vote to change it (if you are a resident) OR if your not.....DON'T LIVE THERE....pretty simple.
IF you don't like the gun laws in Texas either vote to change it (if you are a resident) OR if your not.....DON'T LIVE THERE....pretty simple.
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea I was thinking the same. I can see the law being changed in a heart beat when a little 12 year old cute white girl is blasted in the back with a 12ga shotgun after she steals a candy bar from a store. And of course the shooter gets off as its the law.
I was just thinking about that. 15 year old kid walks out with a pack of gum, can I blow him away?
The 911 operator told him not to do it and he shot two fleeing suspects in the back. I am not saying he should get 25-life, but he should do some time.
I am a gun owner and he makes gun owners as a whole look bad.
I am a gun owner and he makes gun owners as a whole look bad.
That's good, because once you start stealing from somebody it's not possible to be "good people."
So a rapist deserves to die (I agree), but somebody who robs another persons house and threatens another individual does not? In this country we have the right to defend ourself, our property, and our families. Bottom line is the robbers were tresspassing, breaking and entering, stealing, and then threatened another person. They got shot for it, which is what they deserved. Maybe this will help to deter other robbers from thinking about it.
Good point. These were illegal immigrants, in which case they were here illegally (obviously). Then they were stealing from legal citizens here. Also does it really matter if it was a "high profile robbery" or not? Either way they are both stealing and breaking the law.
I would not feel any different if it were kids. It doesn't matter their age. They broke the law, and they got shot for it. Sure getting shot for stealing sucks, but it is one of the possible risks anytime you break into somebodies home.
That is your opinion and you cannot back that up with any kind of evidence. Why bring race into it? The only reason to bring race into is due to a lack of any other evidence backing up your point.
Why does it matter their age, or if they were illegals. It doesn't. I don't care who it is that is doing the robbing, if they get shot for breaking into anothers home that's fine with me. I would like to see it go through the legal system yes, but at the same time if they get shot and killed I am fine with that also.
Why? He called the police. He told the dispatcher that he was going to shoot them if they tried to run before the police arrived on scene. The police took longer then the robbers took to get their loot. If the police had been there, he wouldn't have shot anybody. Blame the police for not getting there fast enough (granted they couldn't arrive much sooner, but it is due to the fact the police were not there). The only thing he could have done better would be shoot them in the leg (I don't know ranges and with the shotgun it could be difficult to hit their leg), but if it were possible I will agree he should have wounded them (in the leg) instead of killing them. Then again now we don't have to deport them (costing us money), or throw them in jail (costing us more money).
Whats to say in the amount of time they would have been caught (assuming they were caught, which isn't 100%) they could have robbed another home, they could have a weapon in a car/hidden on them and killed somebody.
AFAIK all homeowner policies cover theft, but it could be possible there is a policy that doesn't. Check your policy jacket, or contact your agent. Thats how you will know 100%
Woot good guy 2 bad guys ZERO
Kill those fuckers dead if they try to steal from my neighbors and I! I just love seeing all the liberal cry babies in a huff over this, always wanting to give the human garbage more rights than the law-abiding taxpaying people.
Kill those fuckers dead if they try to steal from my neighbors and I! I just love seeing all the liberal cry babies in a huff over this, always wanting to give the human garbage more rights than the law-abiding taxpaying people.
Papagayo
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I'm glad that the criminals are dead.
I'm also glad that the homeowner is freed.
That's justice..
Good old justice..
If someone broke into my house, I would torture and then kill them.
Makes me mad just to think about people breaking into my house.
I'm also glad that the homeowner is freed.
That's justice..
Good old justice..
If someone broke into my house, I would torture and then kill them.
Makes me mad just to think about people breaking into my house.
Capt Caveman
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Hopefully, Horn will get shot in the back while walking on someone's lawn b/c the home owner thought he was going to rob them.
Gunslinger08
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Or want to live.
Everyone can say that death isn't just punishment for the crime, but breaking and entering/burglary is different. When you enter someone's home uninvited, you're placing your life in other people's hands.
Everyone can say that death isn't just punishment for the crime, but breaking and entering/burglary is different. When you enter someone's home uninvited, you're placing your life in other people's hands.
Gunslinger08
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Capt Caveman
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Capt Caveman
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I was making a point of how stupid this law is and how one easily one can get away with murder. Basically, I can shot anyone in the back if they are on my or my neighbor's property. I just need to say that I thought they were robbing the place or I felt threatened.
MotionMan
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I understand exactly what he is saying. I still disagree with it, basically, because it is based on an incorrect stereotype. The assumption is that it does not take a lawyer several months to have enough disposable income to have a couple thousand dollars. That is not necessarily true. It also presumes that he works harder than a lawyer does for his disposable income, so he values it more than a lawyer would. This is also not necessarily true on either count.
People seem to think that lawyers do not work hard for their money. I simply disagree with that thought and that stereotype.
MotionMan
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