Texas eighth-grader suspended for rescuing classmate during asthma attack

[waggy]

Fixed

err..yeah that!

 

[WelshBloke]

At this point the kid should have called 911. This is a breathing emergency. The school nurse would have nothing to deal with it.

There's not a lot a school nurse can do at any point that someone else couldnt.

The kid should have their inhaler with them and if they use that and the attack continues then someone needs to call the emergency services.

 

[WelshBloke]

hypothetically: what if the girl died? where's the liability then?

It's a terrible tragedy but everything possible was done.
All useful medication was locked away safely. We emailed the school nurse then followed up with another email with details when the child became unconscious.
We then tabled a meeting of relevant staff to discuss changes to protocol for this unexpected event.
Whilst waiting for the meeting a letter was sent to the emergency services requesting immediate aid (letter was CCd to the school nurse).
Unfortunately at this point the child passed away and we have sent a carrier pidgin to the funeral service.
As we are aware this is an unusual situation and protocols can't cover everything, in light of this we have allowed the teacher to open a window slightly as some of the children are complaining about the smell.

So as you can see nothing further could have been done in this situation and no fault has been found in the teachers actions.

 

[IronWing]

There's not a lot a school nurse can do at any point that someone else couldnt.

The kid should have their inhaler with them and if they use that and the attack continues then someone needs to call the emergency services.

Many American schools, bless their pointy heads, do not allow students to carry inhalers for fear the child might share the inhaler with another kid. Drugs are bad, mmkay?

The bigger idea that somehow a school nurse can replace emergency services is ridiculous. Even a EMT qualified nurse can only do so much in an actual life threatening emergency. I guess in an age when apparently the average person can't differentiate between an emergency and not-an-emergency it's kind of hopeless.

 

[LTC8K6]

No good deed goes unpunished.

However, Texas has a good Samaritan law. You cannot be held liable for making a good faith effort to help someone in an emergency.

I can't imagine any jury ruling against anyone who carried the wheezing girl to the nurse.

 

[OutHouse]

you think that is bad?

check this one out: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...to-let-asthmatic-kids-carry-puffers-1.2455861

and something good happens: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...matic-kids-carry-inhalers-in-school-1.3055534

wow.

 

[master_shake_]

No good deed goes unpunished.

However, Texas has a good Samaritan law. You cannot be held liable for making a good faith effort to help someone in an emergency.

I can't imagine any jury ruling against anyone who carried the wheezing girl to the nurse.

how about the teacher who emailed the nurse?

is that a good faith effort?

 

[Anubis]

for anyone who has not seen it, this show is hilarious

 

[Linflas]

how about the teacher who emailed the nurse?

is that a good faith effort?

Not in my opinion. I know nothing about school district in question but the district I work for each classroom has a call button to directly alert the office of an issue as well as a phone. They can talk to the individual classrooms through the PA system when the button is pushed I can't imagine any teacher in my building sending and waiting for an email. Worst case scenario they would send a student down to the office immediately requesting assistance.

 

[master_shake_]

for anyone who has not seen it, this show is hilarious

what's the name of the show?

 

[Anubis]

what's the name of the show?

The IT Crowd
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/

 

[master_shake_]

The IT Crowd
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487831/

ah, thank you.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

How can you be a "teacher" of anything and not know asthma attacks are serious?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

This was at a continuation school. They probably assumed that all the kids are bad and don't give a damn about them.

 

[Elixer]

Those inhalers look like guns! GUNS! We can't allow that!

You should see the booklet they give teachers, it is all legalese, there is no logic in there, it is just trying to protect the school system from lawyers.
So much BS in this nanny state we have now.

 

[Brovane]

Those inhalers look like guns! GUNS! We can't allow that!

You should see the booklet they give teachers, it is all legalese, there is no logic in there, it is just trying to protect the school system from lawyers.
So much BS in this nanny state we have now.

They are something even more dangerous, they are prescription medication.

 

[LTC8K6]

how about the teacher who emailed the nurse?

is that a good faith effort?

That's no effort at all, actually.

 

[WelshBloke]

Many American schools, bless their pointy heads, do not allow students to carry inhalers for fear the child might share the inhaler with another kid. Drugs are bad, mmkay?

I'm guessing that they would shit bricks over my mates kid that carries an epipen everywhere?

 

[BlitzPuppet]

"Alternative School" should tell you a lot.

 

[Exterous]

i can't see why the teacher wouldn't just call the school nurse, instead of writing a freaking email

Not all rooms have phones anymore. My wife's room doesn't. There are also some schools that ban teachers from having cell phones in the room.

Could be dumb teacher but it wouldn't surprise me if dumb school policies were involved

 

[highland145]

Not all rooms have phones anymore. My wife's room doesn't. There are also some schools that ban teachers from having cell phones in the room.

Could be dumb teacher but it wouldn't surprise me if dumb school policies were involved

Probably but I doubt your wife would leave a kid in distress....as much as she might want to.

 

[Imp]

Not all rooms have phones anymore. My wife's room doesn't. There are also some schools that ban teachers from having cell phones in the room.

Could be dumb teacher but it wouldn't surprise me if dumb school policies were involved

Eff me in the A. I may be going to teachers' college starting this fall. I really want to teach and try to help kids, but I can not stand bureaucratic bullshit and pointless rules anymore -- I've also been thinking of enlisting lately but see above.

 

[Darwin333]

Not in my opinion. I know nothing about school district in question but the district I work for each classroom has a call button to directly alert the office of an issue as well as a phone. They can talk to the individual classrooms through the PA system when the button is pushed I can't imagine any teacher in my building sending and waiting for an email. Worst case scenario they would send a student down to the office immediately requesting assistance.

When I was in friggen elementary school all classrooms had a PA system with a button that they could use to call the office. They would page the office and if whoever they were looking for wasn't in the office the office would page the entire school for said person. If the person was in the school and it was an emergency it would take less than 30 seconds to find the person and direct them to where they were needed.

In a medical emergency situation email is about the worst possible form of communication other than maybe actually snailmailing a letter to the nurse/office.

 

[Darwin333]

Not all rooms have phones anymore. My wife's room doesn't. There are also some schools that ban teachers from having cell phones in the room.

Could be dumb teacher but it wouldn't surprise me if dumb school policies were involved

They don't even have the simple PA systems with 2 way communications that all schools that I've ever known have had since at least the 80's?

 

[Darwin333]

I'm guessing that they would shit bricks over my mates kid that carries an epipen everywhere?

Nope, that has to be locked up too at most schools regardless of how bad the potential allergic reaction may be. Luckily my daughters Catholic school isn't as retarded as some public schools and they allow her to carry hers with her. When she was younger and we weren't quite sure if she would jig herself she had a little bag that she carried it in and would give it to her teacher every day and the teacher would give it back to her at the end of the day in case she needed it on the bus or something. We even taught her best friend who luckily rode the bus with her how to use it with the practice one in case of an emergency.