Texas eighth-grader suspended for rescuing classmate during asthma attack

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EOM

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Violated teachers orders. Suspended. It's just training for later in life.


Violate the orders of those that have "authority". Get punished.


indoctrination. zero tolerance for violating the rules.
 

Linflas

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Nope, that has to be locked up too at most schools regardless of how bad the potential allergic reaction may be. Luckily my daughters Catholic school isn't as retarded as some public schools and they allow her to carry hers with her. When she was younger and we weren't quite sure if she would jig herself she had a little bag that she carried it in and would give it to her teacher every day and the teacher would give it back to her at the end of the day in case she needed it on the bus or something. We even taught her best friend who luckily rode the bus with her how to use it with the practice one in case of an emergency.

They have one in each hall in the school I work in and they are required to be instantly accessible for use if needed, not behind any kind of locked door or in a locked cabinet. In addition middle and high school students are encouraged to carry their own personal one with them.
 

Phoenix86

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In addition middle and high school students are encouraged to carry their own personal one with them.

Recently they have fallen under 0 tolerance rules in many places. Drugs are drugs, and if we MUST allow them due to doctors orders and all that other legal bullshit, then they will be as highly regulated as possible.

Can't let kids run around the school with drugs now can we? Why aren't you thinking about the children???
 

Exterous

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Probably but I doubt your wife would leave a kid in distress....as much as she might want to.:D

You never know. She's certainly mean enough to me :(

Eff me in the A. I may be going to teachers' college starting this fall. I really want to teach and try to help kids, but I can not stand bureaucratic bullshit and pointless rules anymore -- I've also been thinking of enlisting lately but see above.

It can be...tough to find a good job. She had a job she didn't like for years at a school with absurd policies (Parents, not the teachers or school, decided if kids repeated a grade. Took them a few years to realize parents cared more about having kids stay with their friends than know the material. Everyone was shocked that if a child failed Algebra I they were also likely to fail Algebra II).

But she finally found a school that has its priorities in order and everyone (parents, teachers, admin) work together to teach the kids. She finds it incredibly fulfilling and loves her job but it can take some work to find a school that does that.

They don't even have the simple PA systems with 2 way communications that all schools that I've ever known have had since at least the 80's?

Only receive in the room. Not sure if there is a two way somewhere else. She is allowed to have her cell phone because her school isn't stupid
 

highland145

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You never know. She's certainly mean enough to me :(

I'm with her.


It can be...tough to find a good job. She had a job she didn't like for years at a school with absurd policies (Parents, not the teachers or school, decided if kids repeated a grade. Took them a few years to realize parents cared more about having kids stay with their friends than know the material. Everyone was shocked that if a child failed Algebra I they were also likely to fail Algebra II).

But she finally found a school that has its priorities in order and everyone (parents, teachers, admin) work together to teach the kids. She finds it incredibly fulfilling and loves her job but it can take some work to find a school that does that.

Private?
above
 

highland145

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Have to love those zero tolerance rules.
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Imp

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someones looking to get banned.

:D

this is the real thing.

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It's funny.. Following orders strictly without question probably helps one best with a career in the military, paramilitary force, or police force. But zero-tolerance on guns. Dafuq?
 
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i can see why they wouldn't want a student to do that, from a liability standpoint

but i can't see why the teacher wouldn't just call the school nurse, instead of writing a freaking email

I understand why you wouldn't want to leave the kids alone from a liability perspective, I don't understand why the kid should get suspended. Last I checked we have good Samaritan laws.

I think the answer is pretty clear: Our teachers are fucking stupid. They are too stupid to realize an emergency. They are too stupid to not fuck the students. The kids coming out of school are becoming closer and closer to mentally retarded.....

It's not often I say it's the teachers fault, but god damn these stories never helps their case.
 

Exterous

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All the difference in the world. Parents that are going to pay lots of $$ to send their kids to school usually care and are involved.

Its not even that much. I think its more about parents caring enough to seek out good schools

Internet tough guy.

You know where I used to live. Let me know the time and I'll meet you there and we can settle this...after we rob that guy
 

BlitzPuppet

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I'm guessing "Insubordination". Lots of places don't care about the 'why' only that you did. I've seen lots of "for any reason" language used in defining those policies

I haven't looked into it for this case, but generally when someone says "Alternative Schooling" here it means the kid was so terrible that they had to go to another school with all the other kids that were kicked out of public schooling.

These schools don't fuck around.
 

Sonikku

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To play devils advocate, there are a lot of people in the school faculty that do have common sense who's hands are otherwise tied by an unbelievable amount of bureaucracy that will see them canned for any deviation.
 

waggy

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Its not even that much. I think its more about parents caring enough to seek out good schools

easier said then done. In some places you get no choice on where the kid goes to school.

Private school? we have 1 in town. We did look into it. $600 for both kids plus roughly 10 hours a month of volunteer time (and 2 sundays in church). nothing major. BUT they were full. turns out they have a waiting list.

so city school it is. On that we don't get a choice. its where they decide to send the kid. 2 kids who live next to each other may be in different schools bused across town.
 

Phoenix86

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I understand why you wouldn't want to leave the kids alone from a liability perspective, I don't understand why the kid should get suspended. Last I checked we have good Samaritan laws.

I think the answer is pretty clear: Our teachers are fucking stupid. They are too stupid to realize an emergency. They are too stupid to not fuck the students. The kids coming out of school are becoming closer and closer to mentally retarded.....

It's not often I say it's the teachers fault, but god damn these stories never helps their case.

Kids are often left alone in school for short periods of times. Hallways between classes, bathrooms, locker rooms, outside of the school before/after start, etc. I think during a medical emergency it's ok for 5 minutes while the teacher runs to the office and back.
 

disappoint

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easier said then done. In some places you get no choice on where the kid goes to school.

Private school? we have 1 in town. We did look into it. $600 for both kids plus roughly 10 hours a month of volunteer time (and 2 sundays in church). nothing major. BUT they were full. turns out they have a waiting list.

so city school it is. On that we don't get a choice. its where they decide to send the kid. 2 kids who live next to each other may be in different schools bused across town.

I would totes send my kids to Catholic school, and I'm an atheist. You know why? Because I went to Catholic school and I became an atheist. I fear no religion. Religions fear me. I went on to get a decent education, but then I logged on the internet and learned to substitute words like 'totes' for 'totally' completely ruining any chance that anyone will ever respect my intellectual prowess and typing out long, run on sentences like this one causing my readers to run out of breath reading it to themselves inside their heads leading to their needing a rescue inhaler while blaming it on peanut butter spores flying through the air on the wings of invisible (but totes real) angels.
 

disappoint

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I'd allow it if the kid wielding it has good trigger discipline. Trigger finger outside the trigger guard until ready to fire. I'd be like let them have their little piece of bread they're gonna need it for the shit sandwich education they're getting.