Texas Ebola patient dies

[HomerJS]

That dickwad Ted Cruz wants a travel ban from African countries but why didn't call for a quarantine when Texas hospital had 3 ebola patients?

 

[Victorian Gray]

another recovery

"Ebola patient Ashoka Mukpo, an NBC freelance cameraman, is free of the virus and will leave the Nebraska Medical Center on Wednesday, the hospital said.

Mukpo, who arrived on Oct. 6, contracted the virus while working in West Africa. He is the second patient to be successfully treated for the Ebola virus at the Nebraska Medical Center, the hospital said on Tuesday. (Reporting by Jon Herskovitz; Editing by Sandra Maler)"


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ee_n_6024766.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

 

[Zorba]

That dickwad Ted Cruz wants a travel ban from African countries but why didn't call for a quarantine when Texas hospital had 3 ebola patients?

Yeah, how dare America try to protect itself from anything...

Although, there is an old Oklahoma joke: "An Okie and Texan find a magic lamp, with a genie. When the genie appear he tells them they each get one wish. The Texan, of course, goes first, 'Well since Texas is by far the best state, I want a 50 foot wall built all the way around Texas to keep everyone else out.' The genie grants the wish, then the Okie gets his turn and says 'Now fill it with water.'"

I was hoping the Ebola outbreak in Texas would finally give us our chance to flood them.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

That dickwad Ted Cruz wants a travel ban from African countries but why didn't call for a quarantine when Texas hospital had 3 ebola patients?

We should close all the interstates and end all flights out of Texas. For all we know those nurses spread the disease all across Texas. Time to end it before it starts.

 

[werepossum]

That dickwad Ted Cruz wants a travel ban from African countries but why didn't call for a quarantine when Texas hospital had 3 ebola patients?

Has Eskimospy taught you nothing? Locking them in is the surest way to spread the disease. Um, somehow . . .

 

[fskimospy]

Has Eskimospy taught you nothing? Locking them in is the surest way to spread the disease. Um, somehow . . .

Wait, are you still trying to argue that travel bans are a good idea? This isn't rocket science.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/18/6994413/research-travel-bans-ebola-virus-outbreak

 

[werepossum]

Wait, are you still trying to argue that travel bans are a good idea? This isn't rocket science.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/18/6994413/research-travel-bans-ebola-virus-outbreak

Perhaps you could take it up with Nigeria and Senegal, whose strategies for defeating Ebolla included travel bans.

In fact, I bet if you showed them this article and threatened to hold your breath until you turn blue, you could convince the WHO to revoke their Ebolla-free ratings since you absolutely know the travel bans just made it worse and neither country has yet cured everyone with Ebolla, the only possible way to defeat the disease. And please take the opportunity to also inform them that per Vox, the really scary thing is not Ebolla but soda. Hell, you might as well inform them about how cats are "selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures". You know, just to bring them up to Vox-speed so their ignorance isn't quite so painful for you to bear.

tl/dr: Dumb ass linked a lefty blog.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

another recovery

"Ebola patient Ashoka Mukpo, an NBC freelance cameraman, is free of the virus and will leave the Nebraska Medical Center on Wednesday, the hospital said.

Mukpo, who arrived on Oct. 6, contracted the virus while working in West Africa. He is the second patient to be successfully treated for the Ebola virus at the Nebraska Medical Center, the hospital said on Tuesday. (Reporting by Jon Herskovitz; Editing by Sandra Maler)"


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ee_n_6024766.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

That's unpossible!

 

[PokerGuy]

Perhaps you could take it up with Nigeria and Senegal, whose strategies for defeating Ebolla included travel bans.

In fact, I bet if you showed them this article and threatened to hold your breath until you turn blue, you could convince the WHO to revoke their Ebolla-free ratings since you absolutely know the travel bans just made it worse and neither country has yet cured everyone with Ebolla, the only possible way to defeat the disease. And please take the opportunity to also inform them that per Vox, the really scary thing is not Ebolla but soda. Hell, you might as well inform them about how cats are "selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures". You know, just to bring them up to Vox-speed so their ignorance isn't quite so painful for you to bear.

lol, classic

 

[fskimospy]

Perhaps you could take it up with Nigeria and Senegal, whose strategies for defeating Ebolla included travel bans.

In fact, I bet if you showed them this article and threatened to hold your breath until you turn blue, you could convince the WHO to revoke their Ebolla-free ratings since you absolutely know the travel bans just made it worse and neither country has yet cured everyone with Ebolla, the only possible way to defeat the disease. And please take the opportunity to also inform them that per Vox, the really scary thing is not Ebolla but soda. Hell, you might as well inform them about how cats are "selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures". You know, just to bring them up to Vox-speed so their ignorance isn't quite so painful for you to bear.

tl/dr: Dumb ass linked a lefty blog.

Haha, so when confronted with contrary evidence you fly into a rage, make a bunch of evidence-free assertions, and dismiss the results of a half-dozen or more empirical studies cited in the piece. And then declare Vox a "lefty blog". (A new member of the proggie conspiracy!)

We've got a smart one here, guys.

Look, I let the first time you tried to take a dig at me over this because you didn't know what you were talking about slide. I figured you would have read up on it by now.

 

[soundforbjt]

I belive the nurse's condition has been upgraded from fair to good. Hope she makes it as well.

 

[werepossum]

Haha, so when confronted with contrary evidence you fly into a rage, make a bunch of evidence-free assertions, and dismiss the results of a half-dozen or more empirical studies cited in the piece. And then declare Vox a "lefty blog". (A new member of the proggie conspiracy!)

We've got a smart one here, guys.

Look, I let the first time you tried to take a dig at me over this because you didn't know what you were talking about slide. I figured you would have read up on it by now.

Man, I don't know what I was thinking. Clearly a site that features the REAL threats Americans should fear (guns, climate change, furniture, and soda) and brought us such cutting edge journalism as "Renee Zellweger's new look reveals the pernicious demands we make of all women", "Boulder's houses have more toilets than people", "Inside San Francisco's housing crisis", and the 2014 mid-term elections explained in terms of Donkey Kong levels is pure non-partisan intellectual awesomeness.

Also, please stop identifying mocking as rage.

 

[fskimospy]

Man, I don't know what I was thinking. Clearly a site that features the REAL threats Americans should fear (guns, climate change, furniture, and soda) and brought us such cutting edge journalism as "Renee Zellweger's new look reveals the pernicious demands we make of all women", "Boulder's houses have more toilets than people", "Inside San Francisco's housing crisis", and the 2014 mid-term elections explained in terms of Donkey Kong levels is pure non-partisan intellectual awesomeness.

Also, please stop identifying mocking as rage.

Here's the problem. People (like you!) don't like to read in-depth, factual reporting on issues. They prefer to skim things quickly, form a poorly educated opinion, and ignore the rest. Vox is an attempt to make more in-depth reporting friendlier to people (like you!). Sadly, their experiment appears to be failing in your case as it appears you like emotion fueled venting better than being informed. That's your business though, I guess. (I did appreciate their induction into the ever-growing proggie conspiracy network though)

The piece is straightforward and there are numerous empirical studies cited from a variety of sources that explicitly evaluate the effectiveness of travel bans on the spread of infectious disease. They all came to the conclusion that travel bans are ineffective. Would it make you happier if I cut and pasted the URLs for all the empirical studies separately instead of linking to them in one coherent piece?

If you would like to cite some empirical research that shows travel bans are effective I'd be very interested to see it. If you're going to continue to fly into a rage because you got called out saying stupid things again, I'm less interested. I guess I'll leave it up to you.

 

[shira]

I belive the nurse's condition has been upgraded from fair to good. Hope she makes it as well.

The condition of nurse Nina Pham, who early on received 400 cc of plasma from Ebola survivor Kent Brantly, has indeed been upgraded to "good." The other infected nurse, Amber Vinson, is said to be "improving," but I haven't read anything about what her specific condition is.

 

[squarecut1]

Very good. Everything is going well on the ebola front in America. No new cases either.

What are we going to do now?

 

[shira]

Here's the problem. People (like you!) don't like to read in-depth, factual reporting on issues. They prefer to skim things quickly, form a poorly educated opinion, and ignore the rest. Vox is an attempt to make more in-depth reporting friendlier to people (like you!). Sadly, their experiment appears to be failing in your case as it appears you like emotion fueled venting better than being informed. That's your business though, I guess. (I did appreciate their induction into the ever-growing proggie conspiracy network though)

The piece is straightforward and there are numerous empirical studies cited from a variety of sources that explicitly evaluate the effectiveness of travel bans on the spread of infectious disease. They all came to the conclusion that travel bans are ineffective. Would it make you happier if I cut and pasted the URLs for all the empirical studies separately instead of linking to them in one coherent piece?

If you would like to cite some empirical research that shows travel bans are effective I'd be very interested to see it. If you're going to continue to fly into a rage because you got called out saying stupid things again, I'm less interested. I guess I'll leave it up to you.

When the choice is between empirical evidence and dogma, righties always seem to choose dogma. So it isn't much of a stretch for them to prefer "it makes sense to me" over empirical evidence. Hence this insistence on travel bans versus a more forward-thinking approach to how best to deal with international travel.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Very good. Everything is going well on the ebola front in America. No new cases either.

What are we going to do now?

Keep 2 Rwandan kids out of school in N. Jersey because Africa.

Put a teacher in Main on leave because he was in Dallas.

Put a school employee on leave because they flew on the same plane as the nurse did, only he flew a day later and after the plane had been cleaned.

University of New Mexico cancels a a student trip to Kenya because Africa

And on, and on, and on.

 

[werepossum]

When the choice is between empirical evidence and dogma, righties always seem to choose dogma. So it isn't much of a stretch for them to prefer "it makes sense to me" over empirical evidence. Hence this insistence on travel bans versus a more forward-thinking approach to how best to deal with international travel.

Yeah, there's not a much more "forward-thinking approach" to protecting a nation from Ebolla than "go cure everyone in Africa". Hard to see how that could fail. Oh wait . . .

 

[sportage]

I still put the full blame on Rick Perry.
And those glasses.
New glasses? $1300.
Still the idiot? Priceless!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/rick-perry-ebola-response_n_6028788.html

Texas Gov. Rick Perry's Response To Ebola Under Scrutiny

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) was quick to criticize the federal government for its initial response to Ebola. But now his administration is facing questions as to why two health care workers who contracted the disease from a man who flew from Liberia to Dallas were allowed to freely travel out of the state without any restriction.

As Texas politicians, including Perry and Sen. Ted Cruz (R), pointed fingers at the Obama administration amid growing public unease over the crisis, a key detail in the story had been missing: Texas public health officials already had authority to impose quarantine restrictions on persons suspected of having contagious diseases such as Ebola, regardless of CDC recommendations.

If more people had healthcare in Texas, fewer people would show up at the hospital ER for minor issues. They would have the healthcare coverage to pay. And hospitals would have the financial ability to address people that actually need care.
Instead of simply drawing the line, and dispensing Tylenol.

Simple math here, Rick.
More insured = less burden for the hospital.
And no, Duncan had no insurance and maybe never would have had, but thats not the point.
The point is the financial stability of any Texas hospital.
Having more insured equals an more financially stable hospital.
Fewer uninsured showing up at the ER.
And is that not the bottom line in this case, Rick?
.
.

 

[himkhan]

Yes, that is why the hospital then performed a costly imaging study like a CT scan on his initial visit knowing he wouldn't pay... makes so much sense.

CT's aren't costly to perform for goodness sake. CT of the head, chest... with or without contrast takes all of 5-15 minutes. We bill a boat load for them because we can and the machines are expensive. They pay for themselves after 3-6 months. We order CT's in the ER like they are giving out candy. Now an MRI... different ball game. We order those judiciously.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

CT's aren't costly to perform for goodness sake. CT of the head, chest... with or without contrast takes all of 5-15 minutes. We bill a boat load for them because we can and the machines are expensive. They pay for themselves after 3-6 months. We order CT's in the ER like they are giving out candy. Now an MRI... different ball game. We order those judiciously.

And they still aren't a band aid. That the test was performed indicates there was an effort made to determine what was wrong. The "oh he's black so they gave him a Tylenol and RICK PERRY did it" crowd shows themselves to be no better than Birthers.

 

[werepossum]

Here's the problem. People (like you!) don't like to read in-depth, factual reporting on issues. They prefer to skim things quickly, form a poorly educated opinion, and ignore the rest. Vox is an attempt to make more in-depth reporting friendlier to people (like you!). Sadly, their experiment appears to be failing in your case as it appears you like emotion fueled venting better than being informed. That's your business though, I guess. (I did appreciate their induction into the ever-growing proggie conspiracy network though)

The piece is straightforward and there are numerous empirical studies cited from a variety of sources that explicitly evaluate the effectiveness of travel bans on the spread of infectious disease. They all came to the conclusion that travel bans are ineffective. Would it make you happier if I cut and pasted the URLs for all the empirical studies separately instead of linking to them in one coherent piece?

If you would like to cite some empirical research that shows travel bans are effective I'd be very interested to see it. If you're going to continue to fly into a rage because you got called out saying stupid things again, I'm less interested. I guess I'll leave it up to you.

LMAO Let's take a look at the "more in-depth reporting" on issues, shall we?

On the page you linked, the #1 read story is "Renee Zellweger's new look reveals the pernicious demands we make of all women". Again, this is the #1 read story on Vox.

The #2 read story is "China no longer has a stranglehold on the world's supply of rare earth metals". That one I'll grant you is a good story, but it's a rehash of the CFR story.

The #3 read story is "Kathy Bates's accent is the strangest on TV. So we asked a linguist to place it.".

The #4 read story is "Threats to Americans, ranked (by actual threat instead of media hype)". Spoiler alert, the real threats to Americans are your own furniture, guns, climate change of course, and from another story, soda.

The #5 read story is "“Water is available two hours a day only”: what an ISIS-run city looks like". Again, a good read, but an hour ago #5 was "What research says about cats: they're selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures".

So evidently "more in-depth reporting" on issues means tossing the occasional serious story into the E News offal our lefty readers demand.

And seriously, dude, I know being a humorless dick is an important part of your personality, but if you don't learn to distinguish mockery from rage you'll always be known as that guy who is always being mocked and never realizes it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What research says about cats: they're selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures".

Actually they are awful little devils

 

[werepossum]

Actually they are awful little devils

Which is apparently news. lol

 

[Victorian Gray]

LMAO Let's take a look at the "more in-depth reporting" on issues, shall we?

On the page you linked, the #1 read story is "Renee Zellweger's new look reveals the pernicious demands we make of all women". Again, this is the #1 read story on Vox.

The #2 read story is "China no longer has a stranglehold on the world's supply of rare earth metals". That one I'll grant you is a good story, but it's a rehash of the CFR story.

The #3 read story is "Kathy Bates's accent is the strangest on TV. So we asked a linguist to place it.".

The #4 read story is "Threats to Americans, ranked (by actual threat instead of media hype)". Spoiler alert, the real threats to Americans are your own furniture, guns, climate change of course, and from another story, soda.

The #5 read story is "“Water is available two hours a day only”: what an ISIS-run city looks like". Again, a good read, but an hour ago #5 was "What research says about cats: they're selfish, unfeeling, environmentally harmful creatures".

So evidently "more in-depth reporting" on issues means tossing the occasional serious story into the E News offal our lefty readers demand.

And seriously, dude, I know being a humorless dick is an important part of your personality, but if you don't learn to distinguish mockery from rage you'll always be known as that guy who is always being mocked and never realizes it.

Ya know, even the National Enquirer occasionally gets it right. If you wish to debunk an article, it's better to debunk the article, not the wrapper it came in.