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Gurck

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
for the same reason my dog thinks licking his ass is an ok thing to do. he doesn't know any better. frankly u should be ashmed of yourself. a pc snob argueing that 25fps is enough? lol
You're the only one calling me a snob (and many other names, helluva debate tactic, Bucko! :p). I'll let the fact that someone who thinks "u" is a word likes consoles speak for itself, it says more than I ever could :)
 

0roo0roo

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oh wait, is using () and emoticons perfect grammar? so really stfu. its the fact of your ignorance on basic things that makes your opinion irrelevant.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
oh wait, is using () and emoticons perfect grammar? so really stfu. its the fact of your ignorance on basic things that makes your opinion irrelevant.
How relevant can an opinion be if it's not even legible to anyone older than 15 who doesn't frequent AOL chatrooms? :confused:

If you want to argue for consoles, start pretending to argue for the PC. "olololo u no teh PC rulz0rz" is a stronger pro-console argument than the sum total of console fanboy posts in this thread.
 

0roo0roo

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speak for yourself. perhaps its your own lack of intelligence that is at fault, not the way the arguement is packaged. most people seem to figure out what i say just fine. i don't argue for consoles, i argue against the religious hatred of consoles that people...ignorant people like you seem to have. you seem to think its a zero sum game..it isn't. anyways it simply comes down to this. your credibility is questionable. you are a pc snob that thinks 25fps is fine. you are a pc snob who somehow doesn't know the difference between 24fps film/video and how frame rate affects gameplay in games. you somehow consistently over estimate the capabilites of your hardware and are proven wrong with links to benchmarks. you talk of gameplay yet you sacrifice framerates so you can pretend your card is powerful enough to run at high quality settings. you can't even get price estimates right. you are delusional.
 

79Blazer

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
speak for yourself. perhaps its your own lack of intelligence that is at fault, not the way the arguement is packaged. most people seem to figure out what i say just fine. i don't argue for consoles, i argue against the religious hatred of consoles that people...ignorant people like you seem to have. you seem to think its a zero sum game..it isn't. anyways it simply comes down to this. your credibility is questionable. you are a pc snob that thinks 25fps is fine. you are a pc snob who somehow doesn't know the difference between 24fps film/video and how frame rate affects gameplay in games. you somehow consistently over estimate the capabilites of your hardware and are proven wrong with links to benchmarks. you talk of gameplay yet you sacrifice framerates so you can pretend your card is powerful enough to run at high quality settings. you can't even get price estimates right. you are delusional.

It's a troll on a mission: To see how many people it can get riled up, and get in a argument on the internet, of all places. :roll: If people would just start ignoring him/her/it/whatever, it would only be able to argue with itself.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
speak for yourself. perhaps its your own lack of intelligence that is at fault, not the way the arguement is packaged. most people seem to figure out what i say just fine. i don't argue for consoles, i argue against the religious hatred of consoles that people...ignorant people like you seem to have. you seem to think its a zero sum game..it isn't. anyways it simply comes down to this. your credibility is questionable. you are a pc snob that thinks 25fps is fine. you are a pc snob who somehow doesn't know the difference between 24fps film/video and how frame rate affects gameplay in games. you somehow consistently over estimate the capabilites of your hardware and are proven wrong with links to benchmarks. you talk of gameplay yet you sacrifice framerates so you can pretend your card is powerful enough to run at high quality settings. you can't even get price estimates right. you are delusional.
Whee another runon sentence, I think I spotted a few insults in there too... Not surprising, it's a common tactic when lacking a solid argument. I see it a lot in ipod threads as well. Let's sum this up, shall we?

I hate consoles because they hurt gaming; titles are developed for them instead of far more capable PCs, which holds back the entire industry. They do nothing a PC can't do except make wealthy people more wealthy. The need for them; the fact that some titles aren't available for PCs, is entirely manufactured.

You counter this by calling me names in runon sentences, frequently referring to me as "u" and my possessions as "urs".

Perhaps when you're a bit older (say, 15?) you'll understand that this isn't a valid debate tactic outside of AOL forums and counterstrike; that it's actually detrimental to your argument. For now, I guess I'll just sit back and laugh as you unwittingly make a great argument against consoles :)
 

drinkmorejava

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Of course this could just be the game, but it could also represent the lack of expected power in the 360.

At times antialiasing lines can be noticed, at many times it isnt do it's job either, many of the meshes are flat with fake depth textures
-on that note the trees are dissapointing

ok seriously, not smooth curves on the yellow lines of the road

and is all the shiny car stuff supposed to make it look cool or cover up bad integration into the world map...as in doing it in a way to increase game performance
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
speak for yourself. perhaps its your own lack of intelligence that is at fault, not the way the arguement is packaged. most people seem to figure out what i say just fine. i don't argue for consoles, i argue against the religious hatred of consoles that people...ignorant people like you seem to have. you seem to think its a zero sum game..it isn't. anyways it simply comes down to this. your credibility is questionable. you are a pc snob that thinks 25fps is fine. you are a pc snob who somehow doesn't know the difference between 24fps film/video and how frame rate affects gameplay in games. you somehow consistently over estimate the capabilites of your hardware and are proven wrong with links to benchmarks. you talk of gameplay yet you sacrifice framerates so you can pretend your card is powerful enough to run at high quality settings. you can't even get price estimates right. you are delusional.
Whee another runon sentence, I think I spotted a few insults in there too... Not surprising, it's a common tactic when lacking a solid argument. I see it a lot in ipod threads as well. Let's sum this up, shall we?

I hate consoles because they hurt gaming; titles are developed for them instead of far more capable PCs, which holds back the entire industry. They do nothing a PC can't do except make wealthy people more wealthy. The need for them; the fact that some titles aren't available for PCs, is entirely manufactured.

You counter this by calling me names in runon sentences, frequently referring to me as "u" and my possessions as "urs".

Perhaps when you're a bit older (say, 15?) you'll understand that this isn't a valid debate tactic outside of AOL forums and counterstrike; that it's actually detrimental to your argument. For now, I guess I'll just sit back and laugh as you unwittingly make a great argument against consoles :)

right..the competition of consoles holds back instead of spurs on innovation. thats laughable. the pc market has the gaming market it does precisely because of the consoles spreading gaming to the mainstream while constantly upping the ante with graphics/sound quality at a very low price. pc's have taken the high end market to justify their high price. and sorry, people never would have wanted to crowd around a pc monitor to play say..tekken.

try as you might to divert attention from your ignorance and poorly thought out arguements, it won't work. you are too clearly a troll.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you are too clearly a troll.
As is anyone who disagrees with you, right sport? ;) It's the easy way out, I don't blame you for taking it - many a little brat defending ipods does the same thing. You'll eventually grow out of it. At any rate, as I said in the GH thread, battling the brick wall that is your ignorance and youth is no longer entertaining, so I'll go no farther with the console argument.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you are too clearly a troll.
As is anyone who disagrees with you, right sport? ;) It's the easy way out, I don't blame you for taking it - many a little brat defending ipods does the same thing. You'll eventually grow out of it. At any rate, as I said in the GH thread, battling the brick wall that is your ignorance and youth is no longer entertaining, so I'll go no farther with the console argument.
You infer that you are so mature... Yet you can't seem to carry a conversation as well as most pre-teens that I know.

Since you like to put others down for their (assumed) age... How old are you?

And if you are so mature, why is it that you require so much attention from strangers on a msg board?
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
you are too clearly a troll.
As is anyone who disagrees with you, right sport? ;) It's the easy way out, I don't blame you for taking it - many a little brat defending ipods does the same thing. You'll eventually grow out of it. At any rate, as I said in the GH thread, battling the brick wall that is your ignorance and youth is no longer entertaining, so I'll go no farther with the console argument.
You infer that you are so mature... Yet you can't seem to carry a conversation as well as most pre-teens that I know.

Since you like to put others down for their (assumed) age... How old are you?

And if you are so mature, why is it that you require so much attention from strangers on a msg board?
I'm a crusty old man compared to most ATers. I can carry on a mature conversation, but that takes two parties and you, 0roo, and basically everyone else here resort to namecalling when someone has the audacity to disagree with you, which pretty much kills the prospect. I didn't ask for attention, I jus tstated a minority opinion. Obviously, since it differed from yours, I am wrong and must be brutally corrected :p
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Gurck
I'm a crusty old man compared to most ATers. I can carry on a mature conversation, but that takes two parties and you, 0roo, and basically everyone else here resort to namecalling when someone has the audacity to disagree with you, which pretty much kills the prospect. I didn't ask for attention, I jus tstated a minority opinion. Obviously, since it differed from yours, I am wrong and must be brutally corrected :p
There you go again. Avoiding the question at hand. (By the way... 27 isn't old. What have you accomplished in the last four years of your life, to make you so much more mature than a 23 year old, anyway?)

And then try to distract by being the ACCUSER of namecalling. The only thing this results in is you being a hypocrite. I already ran a list in another thread of you slinging insults... Do you need me to direct you to it again?

Besides, I thought you were all done with these threads?
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Gurck
I'm a crusty old man compared to most ATers. I can carry on a mature conversation, but that takes two parties and you, 0roo, and basically everyone else here resort to namecalling when someone has the audacity to disagree with you, which pretty much kills the prospect. I didn't ask for attention, I jus tstated a minority opinion. Obviously, since it differed from yours, I am wrong and must be brutally corrected :p
There you go again. Avoiding the question at hand. (By the way... 27 isn't old. What have you accomplished in the last four years of your life, to make you so much more mature than a 23 year old, anyway?)

And then try to distract by being the ACCUSER of namecalling. The only thing this results in is you being a hypocrite. I already ran a list in another thread of you slinging insults... Do you need me to direct you to it again?

Besides, I thought you were all done with these threads?
I said I was done with the back & forth about consoles, it had essentially come down to "is too" "is not" "is too" "is not". I didn't say I wouldn't defend myself from your continued attacks.

I've certainly done my share of return namecalling; when a child or idiot such as yourself starts in with it, it'd be pointless to respond with civility; one may as well try to communicate with an Italian by speaking Japanese.

27 may not be old, but in comparison to the typical teenager here, it may as well be 80. Unlike yourself, I'm able to not call people names when they don't agree with me; my assumption was (and remains) that you're a typical posturing teenage ATOTer who can't deal with someone not sharing their pants-drenching enthusiasm over shiny kid stuff like ipods and consoles.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Gurck
27 may not be old, but in comparison to the typical teenager here, it may as well be 80. Unlike yourself, I'm able to not call people names when they don't agree with me; my assumption was (and remains) that you're a typical posturing teenage ATOTer who can't deal with someone not sharing their pants-drenching enthusiasm over shiny kid stuff like ipods and consoles.
I believe the ONLY "name" I called you was a hypocrite. And it was easily justified when you don't apply the same rules to both sides of the discussion.

Please show me where I have called people names.

Btw, I have 10 years on you. So... I guess it's time for you to insult me for my age. You insult younger people, and if your MO stays on track, I imagine you'll insult people older than you. :)

But before you start, let me clarify that I am married, two kids, own a house and two cars, have a great career. I couldn't be happier.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Gurck
27 may not be old, but in comparison to the typical teenager here, it may as well be 80. Unlike yourself, I'm able to not call people names when they don't agree with me; my assumption was (and remains) that you're a typical posturing teenage ATOTer who can't deal with someone not sharing their pants-drenching enthusiasm over shiny kid stuff like ipods and consoles.
I believe the ONLY "name" I called you was a hypocrite. And it was easily justified when you don't apply the same rules to both sides of the discussion.

Please show me where I have called people names.

Btw, I have 10 years on you. So... I guess it's time for you to insult me for my age. You insult younger people, and if your MO stays on track, I imagine you'll insult people older than you. :)

But before you start, let me clarify that I am married, two kids, own a house and two cars, have a great career. I couldn't be happier.
While kids certainly do tend to be immature (it stands to reason that physical and mental immaturity would have a high correlation), there are no hard & fast rules. If indeed you're approaching 40, you're a great example of an exception to the trend. I'm not about to pick through various multiple page flamefests; I participated in what little debate there was for the enjoyment of discussing it, but there's nothing enjoyable about looking for a needle in a haystack. I never namecall or make character attacks unless someone first proves by starting in with them that they'd understand nothing else.
 

Wingznut

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See... Now you are just flat out lying. I showed you in another thread how you took the first shot, completely uncalled for.

Man, you've hit every weak, cheesy attempt in the book.

All you are trying to do is make people angry. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than some posts on a msg board to make me upset. The line may be blurred for you, but this isn't real life.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
See... Now you are just flat out lying. I showed you in another thread how you took the first shot, completely uncalled for.

Man, you've hit every weak, cheesy attempt in the book.

All you are trying to do is make people angry. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than some posts on a msg board to make me upset. The line may be blurred for you, but this isn't real life.
:laugh: You've already gone into entirely different & unrelated threads I was posting in to attack me because "getting" me in this & the GH one wasn't enough... You're more upset than a woman on the rag, who do you think you're fooling? You didn't show me taking the first shot in any thread, as I didn't & never do - unless you consider stating an unpopular opinion to be an insult. Come to think of it, you've called me names for having done exactly that, I guess the mystery is solved :p
 

0roo0roo

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its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.
 

jabamayne

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.

YOU ARE SOOO RIGHT!
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.
Nah. Typical thread goes something like this.

OP: "I like <shiny kid-thing_01>. What r ur thawtz???/?"
Gurck: "I don't like it, because of <legitimate_reason_01>, <legitimate_reason_02> and <legitimate_reason_03>."
Noob_01: "WTF, iph ur nawt ju5t lyke mi u r n00b n tr0llz0rz lololollolol"
Gurck: "Based on that reply, I'm going to guess your age at about 12"
Noob_01: "WTF, ur saying al ppl dat lykez <shiny kid-thing_01> iz teh k1dz? ur dum olololoolo"
Noob_02: "Ya, 01, ur rite"
Noob_02: "QFT lololol"

Now all of a sudden I hate everyone who likes Product_01, rather than people with no better debating method than calling me names and avoiding issues. If there's any dissent there's no shortage of kids to back up Noob_01 with numbers. It's kind of comical, really. Any contradictory details, like the odd fact that the kids started in on namecalling, are smoothed over by strength of numbers; zerg tactics.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: jabamayne
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.

YOU ARE SOOO RIGHT!

WWYBYWB?
 

jabamayne

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.
Nah. Typical thread goes something like this.

OP: "I like <shiny kid-thing_01>. What r ur thawtz???/?"
Gurck: "I don't like it, because of <legitimate_reason_01>, <legitimate_reason_02> and <legitimate_reason_03>."
Noob_01: "WTF, iph ur nawt ju5t lyke mi u r n00b n tr0llz0rz lololollolol"
Gurck: "Based on that reply, I'm going to guess your age at about 12"
Noob_01: "WTF, ur saying al ppl dat lykez <shiny kid-thing_01> iz teh k1dz? ur dum olololoolo"
Noob_02: "Ya, 01, ur rite"
Noob_02: "QFT lololol"

Now all of a sudden I hate everyone who likes Product_01, rather than people with no better debating method than calling me names and avoiding issues. If there's any dissent there's no shortage of kids to back up Noob_01 with numbers. It's kind of comical, really. Any contradictory details, like the odd fact that the kids started in on namecalling, are smoothed over by strength of numbers; zerg tactics.



That's not how our agrument went the other day...

Stop trying to defend yourself Gurck and admit to everybody the truth...
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.

:thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its pretty much how it is. gurck does take the first shot and then pretends he didn't. his favorite tactic is basic hipocrisy when his arguements prove to have no substance.

Yeah, that's about the gist of it. His innumerable insults also tend to be penis-oriented, which I find more than a little odd. If he's really 27, he needs professional help.