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Tesla Motors death watch

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I see at least one Tesla every day during my normal commute to and from work, and it's not always the same one. I look forward to the more affordable models.
 
Joe1987 said:
I dunno, stock is at a 52 week high. I bought in at ~$135. Will likely sell soon, have some covered calls I want to expire, then I'll sell.

Detroit and the other manufacturers need to sell a product before I'd call Tesla dead though. The Leaf is the only high volume pure electric competition so far (at least in the US)
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Got in at $52. Still grinning 😀
 
Honestly, if I had the money I probably would buy the Model S over a BMW or Audi. That thing is nuts. Probably one of the best luxury performance cars in its segment. Elon Musk is a smart guy and I don't think Tesla is going to go anywhere soon. Keep in mind it's the only profitable company making EVs at this point.
 
BoberFett said:
What makes you think batteries are going to get cheaper any time soon? Refer to Texashiker's post regarding global battery production.
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Also, we already have a stable foundation of battery technology, so more demand = more innovation = better products (in this case, longer range) = eventually gets cheaper. All kinds of crazy battery technology is being explored right now, like graphene batteries and metal-air batteries. Tesla just got a patent on the latter:

http://gigaom.com/2013/09/24/whats-a-metal-air-battery-and-why-is-tesla-interested-in-it/

Wyoming, Bolivia, Afghanistan, all kinds of places to get lithium from. I believe Musk said they already have developed a 500-mile battery, it's just too expensive right now to sell. So it's just a matter of getting more efficient in mining & production, exploring alternative technologies, and selling by volume. No one else on the planet is buying batteries like Tesla is, but once things get settled (we already have at ton of battery-assisted hybrids cars like the Prius and battery-only cars like the Leaf) we'll start seeing price drops. Even GM is joining the electric-car party now, so with all of this research & development going on, we're going to see some great things down the road (pun intended, muhahahaha) :thumbsup:
 
NFS4 said:
Got in at $52. Still grinning 😀
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Nice, you pick a point to bail yet? My strike price on the covered calls is $200, thinking of pulling the $ from my original investment, and letting the earnings ride.

Looking at Qualcomm, thinking the whole personal Bluetooth chip in everything is about to explode.
 
mmntech said:
Honestly, if I had the money I probably would buy the Model S over a BMW or Audi. That thing is nuts. Probably one of the best luxury performance cars in its segment. Elon Musk is a smart guy and I don't think Tesla is going to go anywhere soon. Keep in mind it's the only profitable company making EVs at this point.
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Yeah, same. The only electric car I've personally driven is the Honda Fit EV, which is the best car I've ever been in. Seriously. The best. Better than a CVT - no shifting. No noise except for road noise. Crazy torque. Feels great driving because the battery is under the floor, so low center-of-gravity with a good weight down there. I've been driving an older '01 (but well-maintained) Volvo S80 luxury sedan since April and I would definitely take the EV over the S80 if it had better electric range.

If you appreciate details, there are just so many nice little things that are fantastic in an electric car. No more sparkplugs or oil changes or stopping at gas stations & getting whacked at the pump. It's so cool coming home & just plugging into your house to refuel. The convenience is something I didn't even think about until my buddy got his - we pulled into his driveway, hopped out, plugged the car in, and went inside. Done. Always topped off. Stuff like that, little things are what makes me really appreciate the electric cars the most I think.
 
Joe1987 said:
Nice, you pick a point to bail yet? My strike price on the covered calls is $200, thinking of pulling the $ from my original investment, and letting the earnings ride.

Looking at Qualcomm, thinking the whole personal Bluetooth chip in everything is about to explode.
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Haven't decided yet.

Juddog said:
Lucky bastard!
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I'm still kicking myself for "only" buying 50 shares. I had some money to play with and just decided to throw it at TSLA and got lucky.
 
Electric cars: "Going Green" for the mentally retarded. Derp derp, if I plug my car into this outlet, I'm helping the environment!!

...Where does that electricity comes from? How is that electricity produced? *Proceed to beat over the head with a tire iron*
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Electric cars: "Going Green" for the mentally retarded. Derp derp, if I plug my car into this outlet, I'm helping the environment!!

...Where does that electricity comes from? How is that electricity produced? *Proceed to beat over the head with a tire iron*
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You have to look at the running costs as well. My wife has a 2013 Elantra Limited, and if the price cut had been in effect at the time, we would have bought a Nissan Leaf instead. After the tax credit, they would have been roughly the same price.

At 15,000 miles a year:
Estimated fuel costs for the Elantra over a year is $1,650
Estimate fuel cost for the Leaf is $500
 
NFS4 said:
You have to look at the running costs as well. My wife has a 2013 Elantra Limited, and if the price cut had been in effect at the time, we would have bought a Nissan Leaf instead. After the tax credit, they would have been roughly the same price.

At 15,000 miles a year:
Estimated fuel costs for the Elantra over a year is $1,650
Estimate fuel cost for the Leaf is $500
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....You're mistaking my post.

I'm not arguing for the sake of fuel cost savings.
I'm arguing for the sake of butt-sniffers that think they are making a difference on the environment. Electricity is produced with the same coal and shit that a fuel car burns.
You're not making a damn bit of difference, but because you don't directly see it - out of sight out of mind.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
....You're mistaking my post.

I'm not arguing for the sake of fuel cost savings.
I'm arguing for the sake of butt-sniffers that think they are making a difference on the environment. Electricity is produced with the same coal and shit that a fuel car burns.
You're not making a damn bit of difference, but because you don't directly see it - out of sight out of mind.
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No its not.

Electricity is produced with many different methods. I know for a fact that much of my electricity is produced by a nearby nuclear reactor, which is effectively 0 emmissions.

Even if my power WERE produced by coal/fuel/natural gas, mass scale electricity generation is much more efficient than producing energy individually in every engine, even accounting for transmission losses, so there is many benefits for relying on grid electricity.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
....You're mistaking my post.

I'm not arguing for the sake of fuel cost savings.
I'm arguing for the sake of butt-sniffers that think they are making a difference on the environment. Electricity is produced with the same coal and shit that a fuel car burns.
You're not making a damn bit of difference, but because you don't directly see it - out of sight out of mind.
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/more facepalm
 
The prices are absurd. Their ideas are great and their implementation is pretty great as well, but they need to bring their prices down before they'll become profitable. There simply aren't enough people who can afford their cars right now.
 
MrDudeMan said:
The prices are absurd. Their ideas are great and their implementation is pretty great as well, but they need to bring their prices down before they'll become profitable. There simply aren't enough people who can afford their cars right now.
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They have a huge waiting list, and every one is sold before they leave the production line.

The base model S is $61K (before the tax credits) with a 3 month wait

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/design
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Electric cars: "Going Green" for the mentally retarded. Derp derp, if I plug my car into this outlet, I'm helping the environment!!

...Where does that electricity comes from? How is that electricity produced? *Proceed to beat over the head with a tire iron*
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You know, I don't think I've ever actually met anyone this environmentally conscious. All of the Prius drivers I know usually just have long commutes and wanted to save money on their gas bill and don't care about the hippie image. None of the electric car owners I know do it for green reasons either - they think it's cool & can live within the driving range of the battery, so no more gas & low maintenance wins.

Has anyone here actually met someone IRL who fits this stereotype? I'm sure it exists, I've just never run into it myself.
 
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