Terrorist caught by TSA!

[techs]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
No, this is what happens when you put a bunch of morons in charge of airport security.

Agreed. And their names are Bush and Cheney.


Aaawwwwhhh. That was TOO easy.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

 

[shadow9d9]

Shocker here.. lies and exaggerations.

I never made mention of the president.

This has to do with the general direction this country has taken.

You could put all of the "LOL"s you want but you simply use them instead of actual content and as a way to try to reduce the impact of the article on other people.


Also, does Nonprofjon make ANY post without referring to democrats?! Every defense post he has points to democrats... I was planning on adding a disclaimer not to talk about political parties just for him.. but hoped he had the brains enough to leave it out here... Wrong again!

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

They probably need to pull over a certain number of white Americans every month in order to provide evidence that they don't discriminate against Arabs and Muslims for looking like Arabs and Muslims. After all, wouldn't it look funny if the only people they were apprehending or detaining were Arabs and Muslims?

Of course, anyone with half-a-brain would know that a little ol' fiftyish white woman is probably not a terrorist, but then again, they have to meet their ethnic and racial quota in order to keep from violating the Fourteenth Amendment, I suppose.

Still, it looks as though the TSA has no shame.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Genx87

The pay grade changes by region however the screeners themselves were starting at 30K a year. Supervisors 35K, and site managers were 40K+.

They are paid well for what they are doing.

Wouldn't they also receive excellent benefits covering themselves and their families? The value of the insurance benefits and pension (if any) must be worth at least a couple thousand per year.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: Genx87

The pay grade changes by region however the screeners themselves were starting at 30K a year. Supervisors 35K, and site managers were 40K+.

They are paid well for what they are doing.

Wouldn't they also receive excellent benefits covering themselves and their families? The value of the insurance benefits and pension (if any) must be worth at least a couple thousand per year.

Yes like any govt position, benefits are very nice.

 

[Pens1566]

I hear she was in the same sleeper cell as the sippy cup lady from last week ......

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

I find it amusing the democrats need minions like you to defend their actions. They voted for the patriot act that is the bottom line. This idea they were too stupid or felt pressured to sign on is imo worse than simply signing it. It shows a lack of backbone and a lack of responsibility.

I just find it amazing that every public policy that went through during this administration when republicans controlled the congress that is unpopular democrats eventhough they voted for it are using the excuse they didnt know what they were voting for or were duped into voting for it. Truely amazing when you think about it.

And lets also look at this fact. The democrats controlled the senate when the Patriot act was crafted and passed on Oct 26th 2001.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

I find it amusing the democrats need minions like you to defend their actions. They voted for the patriot act that is the bottom line. This idea they were too stupid or felt pressured to sign on is imo worse than simply signing it. It shows a lack of backbone and a lack of responsibility.

I just find it amazing that every public policy that went through during this administration when republicans controlled the congress that is unpopular democrats eventhough they voted for it are using the excuse they didnt know what they were voting for or were duped into voting for it. Truely amazing when you think about it.

And lets also look at this fact. The democrats controlled the senate when the Patriot act was crafted and passed on Oct 26th 2001.

Umm, I just criticized the democrats in my post. Try reading for once instead of hacking. I just friggin said that the democrats haven't done SH*T since they took office and you just copy and paste your typical trolling remarks.. You don't even read. yeah, I am defending the democrats!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: fierydemise
I remember a few years ago my friend and I were going on a school trip and we brought our backpacks and my friend accidentally had a pair of scissors in his backpack (round nosed "safety scissors") and we was pulled out and had his entire bag torn apart and swabbed for explosives.

last year my wife and were flying out of houston to come back to colorado. we had our 7 year old son with us and we just finished cleaning out my moms house for its sale. well i had a backpack that had the normal travel stuff and i sent it through the xray machine. the operator stopped the machine and looked hard at my bag. a tsa guy come and gets my bag and tells my wife and I to follow him.

two other tsa monkeys are waiting for us and they start pulling stuff out of my bag.

pringles sour cream & onion (check)
lots of paper work (check)
couple of bottles of water (check)
sun tan lotion (check)
bottle of advin (check)
toy chrome 6 shooter cap gun that i had as a kid and my son put in the backpack and i didnt know it? WTF!!!!

i can not tell you the feeling when a TSA monkey pulls a pretty realistic gun out of your backpack. i thought we were dead meat.

the supervisor came over and looked at it and was actually pretty cool about it. he said we could check it but cant do that our bags are already check or we would not be going through security. so he said it will ahve to be confiscated. so my toy gun is now TSA property.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

I find it amusing the democrats need minions like you to defend their actions. They voted for the patriot act that is the bottom line. This idea they were too stupid or felt pressured to sign on is imo worse than simply signing it. It shows a lack of backbone and a lack of responsibility.

I just find it amazing that every public policy that went through during this administration when republicans controlled the congress that is unpopular democrats eventhough they voted for it are using the excuse they didnt know what they were voting for or were duped into voting for it. Truely amazing when you think about it.

And lets also look at this fact. The democrats controlled the senate when the Patriot act was crafted and passed on Oct 26th 2001.

Umm, I just criticized the democrats in my post. Try reading for once instead of hacking. I just friggin said that the democrats haven't done SH*T since they took office and you just copy and paste your typical trolling remarks.. You don't even read. yeah, I am defending the democrats!

I read that no doubt, however that like the excuse democrats cant read what they are signing is weak and too little. Why dont you own up to the democrats being just as culpable as the republicans when it comes to the creation and passing of the Patriot act?

You do realize the dems controlled the senate when this was created and passed right? And every democrat except one voted for it? Seems quite a stretch to try and convince us the democrats were bullied into signing a piece of legislation they didnt understand.

 

[Kwaipie]

I think the USPS should open micro-post offices at every security check point, if you have something naughty, you just drop it into a priority mail pouch, pay and you're on your way.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

So...let me get this straight...you solely blame Republicans for the Patriot Act despite the voting record (see below):

SENATE
YEAs 98 (Senate Democrats Voting Yes: All Except 2)
NAYs 1
Not Voting 1

HOUSE
YEAs 357 (House Democrats Voting Yes: 69%)
NAYs 66

Apparently you have your blinders on and don't care if Democrats voted for or against the Patriot Act and...what's really sad is that...you don't hold them responsible for their votes. The fact of the matter is that both Republicans AND Democrats voted for the Patriot Act. It is self-deluded partisan hackery to solely blame Republicans.

I asked you a question earlier that you chose not to answer...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act? But maybe the better question is...why is Congress neglecting to do anything about the Patriot Act now that they have control?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but it appears to me that the "party of change" has chosen to posture for the 2008 elections rather than getting to work to make constructive and meaningful changes. But hey...they got your vote and will probably will get it next election.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

So...let me get this straight...you solely blame Republicans for the Patriot Act despite the voting record (see below):

SENATE
YEAs 98 (Senate Democrats Voting Yes: All Except 2)
NAYs 1
Not Voting 1

HOUSE
YEAs 357 (House Democrats Voting Yes: 69%)
NAYs 66

Apparently you have your blinders on and don't care if Democrats voted for or against the Patriot Act and...what's really sad is that...you don't hold them responsible for their votes. The fact of the matter is that both Republicans AND Democrats voted for the Patriot Act. It is self-deluded partisan hackery to solely blame Republicans.

I asked you a question earlier that you chose not to answer...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act? But maybe the better question is...why is Congress neglecting to do anything about the Patriot Act now that they have control?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but it appears to me that the "party of change" has chosen to posture for the 2008 elections rather than getting to work to make constructive and meaningful changes. But hey...they got your vote and will probably will get it next election.

Actually, they didn't get my vote. I didn't vote. Plus I've only said twice in this thread that they haven't done sh*t since they got into office.. But I've already repeated this throughout the thread and you continue to ASSume whatever makes it easy to attack with.

A republican created the bill and the republican president signed off on it. Yes, the democrats had a hand in it(which I already said), but it was primarily a republican creation... look up the word creation.

What should they do? Repeal it of course. Why are they doing nothing? Because Congress is absurdly corrupt and couldn't care less. Additionally, the democrats can't even get a stem cell bill past this nutty president and we have so many hicks in congress there aren't enough votes to override his nuttiness. If they can;t even pass that, there is a 0% chance of getting a repeal of the patriot act past Bush. They couldn't get a timeline for Iraq past him, no stem cell research, etc... and yet you think there is a snowball's chance in hell to get the Patriot Act repealed? Quit dreaming. Of course, you already knew this and chose to ask the ridiculous question just to divert from the point of this article.

The point is to show how nutso this country has become.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This will be fixed and you'll hear nothing about it...typical media hyperbole.

It's pretty sad that the partisan hacks eat this stuff up and use it as excuse number 2,795,435 to bash Bush. It never occurs to them that Congress is now Democatic controlled and in a position where they can offer positive solutions to problems.

I guess it's much easier to incessantly b*tch and moan than actually work towards effective solutions.

The "party of change" has changed nothing. No wonder the Congressional approval rating is the lowest it's been in 10 years.

Talk about partisan hacks... your job here was to diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact.

In actuality, this happens fairly often nowadays. Why? Have you read the "patriot act"?

You are the second political hack to mention the democrats here.. which this has absolutely nothing in any way shape or form to do with the topic. Go troll elsewhere about your democrat hatred.

Wow...lol. FYI, no hatred intended.

But isn't it telling that you fail to be offended by the republican "partisan hack" comments from techs, 1EZduzit, babylon5, and ericlp? Why no rant directed at them for attempting to "diffuse and misdirect to try to lessen the impact" of your post? We both know why...don't we?

So, tell me...what should Congress do about the Patriot Act?

(Edit: Forgot to quote)

Well, let's be honest here.. the patriot act was created by both the president and the republican controlled and operated congress... they created the bill, period. That is why I am not calling them out on it...

The democrats haven't done sh*t since they've been office, but they couldn't do a thing about the patriot act when it was actually created. Whether they voted for it or not, it was a moot gesture... blame lies in the creators and pushers of the Act.

Jon and others continue to go into threads and just say "democrats bla bla bla" when the democrats have absolutely nothing to do with the topics posted.

And it isn't partisan hackery when someone points to facts-republicans/administration did in fact create and overwhelmingly push through the Patriot Act. Nothing hackery about that. Trying to change the blame of its effects onto democrats because they have 3+ years later taken office for a few months IS hackery.

I find it amusing the democrats need minions like you to defend their actions. They voted for the patriot act that is the bottom line. This idea they were too stupid or felt pressured to sign on is imo worse than simply signing it. It shows a lack of backbone and a lack of responsibility.

I just find it amazing that every public policy that went through during this administration when republicans controlled the congress that is unpopular democrats eventhough they voted for it are using the excuse they didnt know what they were voting for or were duped into voting for it. Truely amazing when you think about it.

And lets also look at this fact. The democrats controlled the senate when the Patriot act was crafted and passed on Oct 26th 2001.

Umm, I just criticized the democrats in my post. Try reading for once instead of hacking. I just friggin said that the democrats haven't done SH*T since they took office and you just copy and paste your typical trolling remarks.. You don't even read. yeah, I am defending the democrats!

I read that no doubt, however that like the excuse democrats cant read what they are signing is weak and too little. Why dont you own up to the democrats being just as culpable as the republicans when it comes to the creation and passing of the Patriot act?

You do realize the dems controlled the senate when this was created and passed right? And every democrat except one voted for it? Seems quite a stretch to try and convince us the democrats were bullied into signing a piece of legislation they didnt understand.

Republican created it, president signed off on it... 65% of the blame is with republicans because republicans CREATED it and the republican president SUPPORTED it... the rest is democrats. I blame the people who create and push for something more than others who blindly went along with it... not much more, but just a little more. The democrats and republicans are to blame , but the republicans inch a little more toward being to blame because of what I mentioned before. Oh, and the 2 people to vote no or didn't vote for democrats, passed through 100% of republicans... better than nothing I suppose!

I have never used the excuse that the democrats didn't read anything. Quote me saying so or shut it.

I never said the democrats were bullied. Quote me or shut it.

 

[Narmer]

If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

If the lady was a man named Muhabbed and the situation was the same, you'd start a thread about how horrible that was and how racist we all are, so whats your point?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

If the lady was a man named Muhabbed and the situation was the same, you'd start a thread about how horrible that was and how racist we all are, so whats your point?

I already made my point. Learn to read.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

Wouldn't it be logical to believe that people against the patriot act are against the whole nonsensical holy war the U.S. has become engaged with with the ME?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

If the lady was a man named Muhabbed and the situation was the same, you'd start a thread about how horrible that was and how racist we all are, so whats your point?

I already made my point. Learn to read.

So you are admitting to being a hypocrite? Thats good, at least you're getting somewhere.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

If the lady was a man named Muhabbed and the situation was the same, you'd start a thread about how horrible that was and how racist we all are, so whats your point?

I already made my point. Learn to read.

So you are admitting to being a hypocrite? Thats good, at least you're getting somewhere.

You must have reading comprehension problems.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Narmer
If the lady was a man named Muhammed and the situation was the same, you guys would be congratulating the TSA. But since it's a (white?) woman, the TSA are morons, right? Let them do their job, blindly, and let the courts sort out the mess. Most people here are hypocrites (sic?).

If the lady was a man named Muhabbed and the situation was the same, you'd start a thread about how horrible that was and how racist we all are, so whats your point?

I already made my point. Learn to read.

So you are admitting to being a hypocrite? Thats good, at least you're getting somewhere.

You must have reading comprehension problems.

No, you have thinking problems. You come in here calling everyone hypocrites because you say that they would react differently if the TSA caught an arab instead of a white women. Well you sure as hell wouldn't be saying "let them do their job" if that were the case, you, along with Aimster and Jpeyton would be blabbering on about how racist we are and some other random crap.

In short, you call everyone hypocrites because they would act differently if this was an arab, well so would you.