terrorist attack in Orlando gay club - 50 dead, another 53 wounded

[compuwiz1]

Washington Post -




https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...d-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency


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Looks like the sickness ran in the family.

 

[compuwiz1]

Let's not be delusional. Had he been in a country like Australia that bans guns he wouldn't have had any idea where to even *start* to purchase an illegal, black market firearm or even to afford one at $7,000 - $15,000 per *handgun*, not to mention the additional associated costs and logistical challenges to practicing with said firearm.

You could move there...

 

[waggy]

Killing Homosexuals Is Not ISIS Law, It Is Muslim Law

it still amazes me that some can justify killing someone over who they fuck (long as its consenting adults). oh yeah because a book written over 2 thousand years ago tells them to?

I been trying to understand it. i just can't.

edit: also it seems to go against God. why would a being that is perfect allow it? Also why would he need OUR help in fixing HIS mistake? only logical thing i can think of is God don't give a shit who we fuck.

 

[jackstar7]

For one, the only way to guarantee heaven in their system is to die in Jihad. The Koran tells him to "strike the unbeliever wherever he may be found."

Also, do you think it is homophobia to believe homosexual activity is a sin?

Why don't you just explain the distinction that you are trying to make rather than asking a rhetorical question?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Let's not be delusional. Had he been in a country like Australia that bans guns he wouldn't have had any idea where to even *start* to purchase an illegal, black market firearm or even to afford one at $7,000 - $15,000 per *handgun*, not to mention the additional associated costs and logistical challenges to practicing with said firearm.

Having very restrictive gun laws didn't help in France

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#France

In France, to buy a firearm, a hunting licence or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibres, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).
The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one[clarification needed] semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds. Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership

 

[Svnla]

If I wanted to be evil?

Chains, locks, and Molotiv cocktails are all I would need.

242 dead at the Kiss Nightclub fire (2013)

156 dead at the Lame Horse nightclub fire (2009)

194 dead at the Republica nightclub fire (2004)

309 dead at the Luoyang nightclub fire (2000)

You just have to find the right one when it's packed if you want to rack up the body count. No mass shooting can come close to these kinds of casualties.

See my earlier post in this thread about the train gas attack in Japan, the bombings of multiple targets in several locations (in US and elsewhere) and on and on.

Evil people will do evil things, no matter what the tools are.

 

[jackstar7]

it still amazes me that some can justify killing someone over who they fuck (long as its consenting adults). oh yeah because a book written over 2 thousand years ago tells them to?

I been trying to understand it. i just can't.

My thought is that the book is an excuse to perpetuate the fear and hate that's already inside them.

 

[JSt0rm]

I haven't read this whole thread, but here's what I posted on Facebook this morning:

It's not without a bit of both sadness and amusement that I realize that the recent news seems to have split people into 2 groups. Those who defend the 1st Amendment and want to deny others of their 2nd Amendment rights, and those who defend the 2nd Amendment and want to deny others their 1st Amendment rights. Sadly, this divisiveness only breeds more hate and doesn't result in any meaningful steps toward solutions. And at the same time, it is this divisiveness that many of those in office (or running for office) encourage and exploit to maintain their power. Cue: Trump, "Muslims!" and Hillary, "Guns!"

Now, I expect a sane person to ask, "then what is your solution?" Perhaps an emphasis on tolerance? Not acceptance, that's different. Tolerance.

Im glad you decided to take this moment and make it about gun rights. D:

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

If I wanted to be evil?

Chains, locks, and Molotiv cocktails are all I would need.

242 dead at the Kiss Nightclub fire (2013)

156 dead at the Lame Horse nightclub fire (2009)

194 dead at the Republica nightclub fire (2004)

309 dead at the Luoyang nightclub fire (2000)

You just have to find the right one when it's packed if you want to rack up the body count. No mass shooting can come close to these kinds of casualties.

Uhuh. And there are, on average, hundreds of these molotov-chain-lock-massacres happening every year, right? Because that's how many mass shootings happen in America alone per year.

Boy, I guess psychopaths and ISIS have been getting it all wrong these years. Instead of spending all this money on firearms and avoiding the cops they should just be saving their money for runs to the liquor store and Home Depot.

*Whispers*

Pssst.... You should probably go tell them this and be sure to show them your numbers. They're missing a huge opportunity here. I'm sure you know more about it than they do.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

My thought is that the book is an excuse to perpetuate the fear and hate that's already inside them.

Based on my experience with devote Muslims, this is the case with those who chose not to follow the true teachings of the Quran.

 

[jackstar7]

Oh hey, did madoka ever learn the origins of the NRA and why they face so much derision?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Let's not be delusional. Had he been in a country like Australia that bans guns he wouldn't have had any idea where to even *start* to purchase an illegal, black market firearm or even to afford one at $7,000 - $15,000 per *handgun*, not to mention the additional associated costs and logistical challenges to practicing with said firearm.

Australia has not banned guns. They are highly regulated with some types not allowed but gun ownership is legal.

 

[buckshot24]

Why don't you just explain the distinction that you are trying to make rather than asking a rhetorical question?

I'd just like to know what you think homophobia is.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

You could move there...

Well, lucky for me, it's been four years since I've touched American soil for any appreciable amount of time. I do quite like living in countries where gun violence isn't ever on the news.

My only complaint is I still pay taxes to you sorry lot... but what can I say - I still have family in the States and enjoy the national parks.

 

[jackstar7]

I'd just like to know what you think homophobia is.

Fear and hatred with regards to homosexuals. Inherently irrational.

 

[Jaskalas]

Based on my experience with devote Muslims, this is the case with those who chose not to follow the true teachings of the Quran.

I wish the world shared in your experience.
And that the identity of Islam was not claimed by those who kill.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Australia has not banned guns. They are highly regulated with some types not allowed but gun ownership is legal.

Come to Australia.

Try to buy a semi-automatic firearm.

 

[madoka]

Uhuh. And there are, on average, hundreds of these molotov-chain-lock-massacres happening every year, right? Because that's how many mass shootings happen in America alone per year.

Looks like you need to look beyond what liberal media and Bloomberg spoon feeds you. Hundreds of mass shootings? LOL.

It’s clear that there is no major upward trend. And slicing the data differently doesn’t make a difference — Fox said that since homicides are on the downswing in general, the overall shape of the graph wouldn’t change much if you changed the definition of a mass shooting to, say, three victims or more. There isn’t even any upswing in the number of school shooting victims, at least based on the Department of Education’s own official statistics (PDF).

Why, then, is there such a powerful feeling that things are getting worse? Media coverage plays a big role. It’s almost hard to believe today, but there was a time in the not too distant past when people in New York might not even hear about a school shooting that happened across the country. Today, every incident immediately explodes onto the national stage and is then amplified a millionfold by social media. It’s a visceral example of the availability heuristic — the easier it is for us to think of a certain type of event (whether a school shooting or a plane crash), the higher we rate its probability. But this is an illusion; just because it’s easier than it ever has been to think of an example of a shooting doesn’t mean these events are more likely than they were in the past.

 

[madoka]

Oh hey, did madoka ever learn the origins of the NRA and why they face so much derision?

Yeah I know it, but it seems you don't.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Come to Australia.

Try to buy a semi-automatic firearm.

Which runs counter to what I wrote in what way?

"Australia has not banned guns. They are highly regulated with some types not allowed but gun ownership is legal."

 

[Knowing]

Uhuh. And there are, on average, hundreds of these molotov-chain-lock-massacres happening every year, right? Because that's how many mass shootings happen in America alone per year.

Boy, I guess psychopaths and ISIS have been getting it all wrong these years. Instead of spending all this money on firearms and avoiding the cops they should just be saving their money for runs to the liquor store and Home Depot.

*Whispers*

Pssst.... You should probably go tell them this and be sure to show them your numbers. They're missing a huge opportunity here. I'm sure you know more about it than they do.

The deadliest attack in history doesn't happen every year. You probably don't even hear about the majority of "mass shootings" unless you specifically seek them out. Many of them are no good for political hay making.

 

[buckshot24]

Fear and hatred with regards to homosexuals. Inherently irrational.

Thank you for that. Is anybody who believes it is a sin a homophobe?

 

[shortylickens]

The deadliest attack in history doesn't happen every year.

nor does a muslim murder of gays in a night club.

:hmm:

 

[1prophet]

Let's not be delusional. Had he been in a country like Australia that bans guns he wouldn't have had any idea where to even *start* to purchase an illegal, black market firearm or even to afford one at $7,000 - $15,000 per *handgun*, not to mention the additional associated costs and logistical challenges to practicing with said firearm.

Would you like to adopt some more of Australia's policies or are you looking to pick and choose (even its nonexistent total gun ban you believe to be true) à la carte in order to back up your political agenda?

Australia’s Brutal Treatment of Migrants
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/03/opinion/australias-brutal-treatment-of-migrants.html?_r=0

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/australia-immigration/480189/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/australia-migrant-crisis-deaths_us_572d01abe4b096e9f0917807

No wonder everyone in Australia can feel so safe while pointing the finger at others.

 

[DigDog]

that's cute, from a religion with well over 1,000,000,000 people in it, you have 19 stupid tweets.
.000000019 % represents the religion as a whole, eh

i think you have your numbers wrong. shall i explain exactly how wrong you are? or do you want to go over the maths first?