Terminator Genisys

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smakme7757

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I'm not really sure how RT works, but it seems like user ratings are at 3.9/5(52000+ ratings) and critic rating is 4.8/10(77 ratings). Two different scales?

Imdb with 6000+ ratings gives it a 7.4.

User ratings on imdb and RT seem aligned though around a 6/7 of 10.
 

motsm

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I'm not really sure how RT works, but it seems like user ratings are at 3.9/5(52000+ ratings) and critic rating is 4.8/10(77 ratings). Two different scales?

Imdb with 6000+ ratings gives it a 7.4.

User ratings on imdb and RT seem aligned though around a 6/7 of 10.
I wouldn't bother with user ratings at this point, as most of them are from people who haven't even seen it yet.
 

motsm

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Movie is going to suck. I get it.

So, I'll be at hte Thursday showing!
Do you know how RT works with user ratings? They accept them for a long time before the movie even comes out, hence why there is over 52,000 ratings already, and why the score simply says "Want to see". The vast majority of these people have not seen the movie, and that is all I said.
 
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Today is the day! Can't wait to see the Genisys program do its magic. :D

Going Thursday with friends. Tempted to leave work early and see it today and not tell them and see it a second time with them. If it was getting good reviews I would do this but now I think I am going to see it and wish to never see it again.

Summer ruined...
 

88keys

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The fact that James Cameron gave his blessings gives me hope.

But the fact that RT critics have basically panned the film gives me doubt.


I'm torn :(
 

John Connor

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Well, I'm back. From the theater that is. :D My take, it was just alright. And this is coming from someone that likes Salvation an T3. The plot is a twisted mess and now there are several tangents to what Skynet will do next. So I guess this leaves the door open for the next two Terminator films Arnold is supposed to be in. They better make them quick because Arnold isn't getting any younger and they do make that fact known in the movie.

They should have made it really authentic and brought in Michael Biehn as Kyle Reese. Sarah Connor could have been blonder. My role? Well... I'm a little pissed. LOL I like how they show scenes from T1 and the camera work was spot on from what was done in T1. I wouldn't see it in 3D, nor Imax. What I found odd was that the HKs (Hunter Killer flying machines) were shown using a red beam when in all the films and the show it was a bright white beam. I don't know why they changed that.

I liked Salvation partly due to the future war stuff which I think they ought to make a Terminator film on. And in Salvation they talked about shortwave being the medium at which Skynet communicated. So seen as how I'm into radio communications that was interesting because that was the first time I heard Skynet using shortwave. I think a future Terminator movie should shed more light on that and the plot should take place in the future with epic battles of Terminators and the resistance trying to capture a key Skynet holding ground or something. They kinda touch on that in this movie, but not long.

All in all I give it a 6/10. Salvation I give an 8/10 and T3 I give a 7/10.

An interesting aspect to the movie is that Skynet is indeed pretty much being created right now. We just scratched the surface of the 21st century and right now it might as well be 1915. Wait till we hit 2030. I can't imagine the technology.

PS. Watch the first part of the ending credits.
 

Blanky

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Other than its awful score on rotten I won't see it in theaters because of this comment about it by a reviewer on rotten:
But for better and for worse, this is Schwarzenegger’s show. His performance, and his character’s evolution, are the reasons “Terminator Genisys” turns unfortunately jokey and self-referential, to the point that it borders on parody. Schwarzenegger’s one-liners helped define the franchise in its early years. They were a reflection of this flesh-covered machine’s awkward, heavily accented attempts at assimilating with humans, and they provided much-needed comic relief. Here, when he says “I’ll be back,” it’s more likely to produce groans than grins. Schwarzenegger has turned into your elderly uncle, dancing like a goofball at your wedding after a couple glasses of champagne. He knows he’s being silly, and he knows that you know, and that alone is supposed to be good for a laugh. But it’s not. It’s just sad. He has essentially become McBain.
 

Blanky

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The fact that James Cameron gave his blessings gives me hope.

But the fact that RT critics have basically panned the film gives me doubt.


I'm torn :(
Was James Cameron really going to say "I saw this, it sucks"? His opinion on it means nothing, not because his opinion is meaningless, but because you're not actually getting his opinion; you're getting publicly consumable nothingness.
 

Zim Hosein

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Was James Cameron really going to say "I saw this, it sucks"? His opinion on it means nothing, not because his opinion is meaningless, but because you're not actually getting his opinion; you're getting publicly consumable nothingness.

IIRC, Cameron didn't have an opinion at all on T3 and Salvation before being released in theaters, so that fact that he chimes in so early before Genisys' release date has long time T1 & T2 fans, like myself, highly confused towards his opinion. o_O
 

clamum

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I was a little surprised by the really low RT score for this movie. I didn't expect 90% or something, but damn.

Well, I'm back. From the theater that is. :D My take, it was just alright. And this is coming from someone that likes Salvation an T3. The plot is a twisted mess and now there are several tangents to what Skynet will do next. So I guess this leaves the door open for the next two Terminator films Arnold is supposed to be in. They better make them quick because Arnold isn't getting any younger and they do make that fact known in the movie.

They should have made it really authentic and brought in Michael Biehn as Kyle Reese. Sarah Connor could have been blonder. My role? Well... I'm a little pissed. LOL I like how they show scenes from T1 and the camera work was spot on from what was done in T1. I wouldn't see it in 3D, nor Imax. What I found odd was that the HKs (Hunter Killer flying machines) were shown using a red beam when in all the films and the show it was a bright white beam. I don't know why they changed that.

I liked Salvation partly due to the future war stuff which I think they ought to make a Terminator film on. And in Salvation they talked about shortwave being the medium at which Skynet communicated. So seen as how I'm into radio communications that was interesting because that was the first time I heard Skynet using shortwave. I think a future Terminator movie should shed more light on that and the plot should take place in the future with epic battles of Terminators and the resistance trying to capture a key Skynet holding ground or something. They kinda touch on that in this movie, but not long.

All in all I give it a 6/10. Salvation I give an 8/10 and T3 I give a 7/10.

An interesting aspect to the movie is that Skynet is indeed pretty much being created right now. We just scratched the surface of the 21st century and right now it might as well be 1915. Wait till we hit 2030. I can't imagine the technology.

PS. Watch the first part of the ending credits.
But like you I also liked Salvation quite a bit, and I personally rank it just shy of T1/T2 (T3 being a distant last for me). So maybe I'll like Genisys enough, but I don't think I'll see it in IMAX then.
 

ImpulsE69

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Everyone I've heard that has seen it thought it was boring and confusing. Said there was action, but nothing special and the movie was just souless and they missed lots of opportunities to make it interesting.
 

smakme7757

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Everyone I've heard that has seen it thought it was boring and confusing. Said there was action, but nothing special and the movie was just souless and they missed lots of opportunities to make it interesting.
Maybe it's just me, but that's what most people say to me about most movies these days :p
 
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Everyone I've heard that has seen it thought it was boring and confusing. Said there was action, but nothing special and the movie was just souless and they missed lots of opportunities to make it interesting.

Confusing more than boring. I did not get bored in this 2 hour movie. It should havebeen 1:50 though. Not 2:05. There was abig chunk of content that should have been removed.
 

88keys

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Just saw it and it was entertaining for the nostalgia which is it's only redeemable quality.

Aside from that I think this is possibly the worst of the Terminator franchise. Terminator Salvation ranks higher only because it had a better story and better actors. Genisys felt like a cheap made for TV movie all the way around. The writing was horrendously lazy and the story was bordering on the absurd
An OS that takes on the form of a some creepy kid is going to take over the world?

The pacing was also way off with loads of unnecessary scenes, and the forced humor got old and tired really fast. It literally has all the hallmarks of a Micheal Bay movie.

3/10
 

Sonikku

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As someone who found something to enjoy in ALL the Terminator movies, the reviews I'm hearing leave me feeling pretty disappointed. :(
 

Merad

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I saw it yesterday. Regular theater (for some reason they bumped it from IMAX for Magic Mike, wtf?). I would say it is easily better than T3, a bit better than T4, and of course can't really match 1 and 2. The plot is a bit convoluted, but that's because it tries to embrace some of the crazier possibilities resulting from time travel. C'mon guys, we're talking about a series that relied on a causality loop in its first movie and has gotten worse from there. Your standards can't be that high.
 
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Hugo Drax

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I saw it yesterday. Regular theater (for some reason they bumped it from IMAX for Magic Mike, wtf?). I would say it is easily better than T3, a bit better than T4, and of course can't really match 1 and 2. The plot is a bit convoluted, but that's because it tries to embrace some of the crazier possibilities resulting from time travel. C'mon guys, we're talking about a series that relied on a causality loop in its first movie and has gotten worse from there. Your standards can't be that high.

Is the movie better than what the trailer suggested?

Sometimes you see a trailer and you do not bother seeing the movie because you think its stupid, only to find out it was actually a great movie.

That happened to me when I saw the Snowpiercer trailer.
 

Merad

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Idk, I didn't really pay that much attention to the trailers for this one. If you're a fan of the franchise I would say it's worth seeing.